POST WAR assessment of recent conflict.

[WhispersFromThePast]

Either you are lying or Colonel Sofia Qureshi is lying when she said there was harm and damage to bases and personnel?

The Fatah II was another dumb attempt at ‘showing capability’ and ‘we can reach everywhere we want’. These bastards are gloating over half-hearted attempts. Let them gloat. It will be too bad for them when/if we decide to get serious

 

[WhispersFromThePast]

@WhispersFromThePast @Oscar

Good News,

I thought overlord 3 was dead! but by grace of all mighty only wing is damaged which will get fixed at depot level. Allah have graced his blessing the Radar system was safe and already removed safely.

since the terrorist at PNS Mehran, we are in good position to recover Saab-2000 airframe in no time.

its from horse mouth! so i am happy!

Alhamdulillah. All Thanks to Allah the Almighty. The English was needed to satisfy the forum’s more than 3 words policy.

 

[WhispersFromThePast]

I've said it before and say it again, the answer to Brahmos was Babur not Fatah.

Let’s not get impressed by the Indians using a sledgehammer for a nail. Sure, holes in roofs and roads, and collapsed hangars make for good press. But what are you achieving, really? The Fatah series can perform ‘surgery’ at the respective ranges. It is high supersonic in the terminal phase. Its profile is too thin for manual CIWS. And it can be used to saturate the target. All videos that have been shared portray the intention of not saturating the targets. I don’t know if that’s because of low inventory or simple ‘calibrated response’. But definitely if fired in numbers they will be a nightmare for the enemy.

 

[Reichmarshal]

Posters need to relax, take a step back, and reassess......rather than slitting their wrists on the drop of a hat.
Our AD did one hell of a job defending our airspace from bindian on slot.
The attack with surveillance drones/loitering munitions was more to overwhelm our AD assets than anything else.
I was worried that our AD would deplete all their anti-aircraft missiles trying to shoot down the drones, but was presently surprised to see our AD units use Orikon twin-barrel 35mm gun that is equipped with a Fire Control Unit (Skyguard) that detects and tracks air targets up to 20km and computes the firing data, along with their Chinese variant known as the Type 90. Its the perfect weapon to shoot down drones, helicopters, and cruise missiles, particularly when used with their AHEAD (Airburst) ammunition, is highly regarded and characterized by its high precision and effectiveness against a variety of air threats. The AHEAD ammunition allows for fine-tuning of hit and kill probabilities based on the target type.......our AD units have had them for decades and r very proficient on them. Hence the reason for 80+ bindian drones being shot down with minimal loss.
After the failure of their drone assault, the bindians, after 200 hrs on May 10th, took the extreme step and tried to take out our airfields and some other facilities with brahmos supersonic cruise missiles. bindians fired volley after volley of these cruise missiles. 10 -15 missiles per target......that's a huge number.
Our AD engagement and hit rate were 100 % in most cases. The shoot-down rate between soft kill and hard kill was 50 -50.
The casualties caused at Balori AF were a cheap shot after the ceasefire was announced, and what did the damage was the debris of the destroyed missiles to aircrew working in a hanger, which was not a "HAS" hanger.

All in all, a job very well done

 

[WhispersFromThePast]

Posters need to relax, take a step back, and reassess......rather than slitting their wrists on the drop of a hat.
Our AD did one hell of a job defending our airspace from bindian on slot.
The attack with surveillance drones/loitering munitions was more to over when our AD asserts than anything else.
I was worried that our AD would deplete all their anti-aircraft missiles trying to shoot down, but was presently surprised to see our AD units use Orikon AA radar-guided guns along with their Chinese variant to shoot the drones, with huge success as these guns have their own radar n are highly assurate with a zero zero kill zone.....our AD units have had them for decades and r very profeciet on them.......hence the reason for 80+ bindian drones being shot down with minimal loss.
After the failure of their drone assault, the bindians, after 200 hrs on May 1oth, took the extreme step and tried to take out our airfields and some other facilities with brahmos supersonic cruise missiles. bindians fired volley after volley of these cruise missiles. 10 -15 missiles per target......that's a huge number.
Our AD engagement and hit rate were 100 % in most cases. The shoot-down rate between soft kill and hard kill was 50 -50.
The casualties caused at Balori AF were a cheap shop after the ceasefire was announced, and what did the damage was the debris of the destroyed missiles to aircrew working in a hanger, which was not a "HAS" hanger.

All in all a job very well done

DG ISPR publicly acknowledged that we had to turn off our radars because ‘the system gave us an indication it is being tracked’. He further said that India could then conduct SEAD operations (IIRC). We got compromised, acknowledged it, and the ignorant nation didn’t realise what has been said.

 

[Goenitz]

While the government and ISPR are silent. Please wake up and counter India's narrative.
Inida is focusing on the fact that Pak nuclear assets are unsafe, Pak is supporting terrorism for its political objectives, and India will respond with war for any new terrorist act. This means India is preparing for war or the next move.

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[maverick]

While the government and ISPR are silent. Please wake up and counter India's narrative.
Inida is focusing on the fact that Pak nuclear assets are unsafe, Pak is supporting terrorism for its political objectives, and India will respond with war for any new terrorist act. This means India is preparing for war or the next move.

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pakistani nation needs to prepare for a long term war ..,
on emergency basis,
1) every Pakistani should be armed
2) 2M to 3million pakiatanis should be trained btw 12-18 months for a war wiyh India. 100+ heavily armed infantry division with these newly trained soldiers should br used to take over Kashmir and to subjugate Indian army
3) do not be under western pressure of not increasing the size of your army as the west is the one that wants to denuclearize you
4) this is the only way not to go nuclear.
5) 120Million able bodied fighting force can be used for manufacturing of heavy arms and war machine

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@Reichmarshal

The casualties caused at Balori AF were a cheap shot after the ceasefire was announced,

When was the ceasefire announced? When was Balori base hit?

@Goenitz

While the government and ISPR are silent.

Maybe there is a good reason they are silent?

Regards

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@maverick sb,

pakistani nation needs to prepare for a long term war ..,
on emergency basis,

Excellent suggestions from through #1 to #5!. What could be the cost implications of the same? How would you fund it?

Regards

 

[maverick]

@maverick sb,

pakistani nation needs to prepare for a long term war ..,
on emergency basis,

Excellent suggestions from through #1 to #5!. What could be the cost implications of the same? How would you fund it?

Regards

my analysis is $22.5B a year and Pakistan can sustain that for 3.5 years based on the current size of economy and collateral inform of gold and mineral reserves…

 

[TallGuy]

@maverick sb,

pakistani nation needs to prepare for a long term war ..,
on emergency basis,

Excellent suggestions from through #1 to #5!. What could be the cost implications of the same? How would you fund it?

Regards

in reality please understand - have ever hear about wealth flight.

you bomb or missile karachi in next round that is our business/wealth hub. its a fair game when the mumbai will be hit.

how much wealth we would loose? and how much wealth india will loose?

what will be the cost?

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@maverick sb,

my analysis is $22.5B a year and Pakistan can sustain that for 3.5 years based on the current size of economy and collateral inform of gold and mineral reserves…

You seem to have done your homework. Excellent! Now if you have that much money, why are you approaching IMF for loans of about USD 3 billion or so per year.

@TallGuy

in reality please understand - have ever hear about wealth flight.

I have. Apparently @maverick sb hasn't. Else he wouldn't be trying to spend USD 22.5 bn per year which Pakistan doesn't have.

Regards

 

[Reichmarshal]

DG ISPR publicly acknowledged that we had to turn off our radars because ‘the system gave us an indication it is being tracked’. He further said that India could then conduct SEAD operations (IIRC). We got compromised, acknowledged it, and the ignorant nation didn’t realise what has been said.

not off but in passive mode...went into active mode to target threat

 

[Reichmarshal]

in reality please understand - have ever hear about wealth flight.

you bomb or missile karachi in next round that is our business/wealth hub. its a fair game when the mumbai will be hit.

how much wealth we would loose? and how much wealth india will loose?

what will be the cost?

target calcutta, their call center hub n shut down their call center industry.........in war, the loss is on both sides

 

[Goenitz]

@Reichmarshal

The casualties caused at Balori AF were a cheap shot after the ceasefire was announced,

When was the ceasefire announced? When was Balori base hit?

@Goenitz

While the government and ISPR are silent.

Maybe there is a good reason they are silent?

Regards

I think downing the Rafale was too much. Pakistan is keeping its tongue tight so that things might not escalate. I bet we have footage and everything like in 2019. However, I think this time the photos are of Chinese satellites, and Pakistan may not release it.
Whatever happened at Bolhari (AWACS or not), it didn't give India much excuse to cease fire. Pakistan was asking to cease hostilities since the onset of the battle.

@maverick I think there is no need to increase the army as both India and Pak will not fight to their guts and blood, we never did. We need to increase our drone strike capabilities.