PTI freedom movement against Judiciary and Establishment: News, Discussion & Updates

[Olympus81]

You guys should take a break.

Stop attributing fake news to PTI, PMLN, PPP, PDM, Faujis.

Discuss on their policy direction. Not on fringe fake news posts and attributing it as their policy.

Qasim Khan mentioned clearly he doesn’t wish to end Pakistan’s GSP+ status. He wishes to see his father treated with respect and justice.

This will be my last post on this thread. Thanks.

 

[flyingorca]

I am glad I left the echo-chamber I once surrounded myself with around his cult.

At one point I used to defend him until I did my own research and realised all he does is optics and fancy speeches, he is an idiot through and through beyond that. And his cringey illiterate fans don't even like him for his politics they like him for childish reasons like aesthetics.

The current admin is doing very well despite attempts by his fanbase to sabotage it in nearly EVERY step.

You my friend just did a blitzkrieg on Imranis
I also used to be part of the cult.

 

[pashtunkoum]

Yoooooo
This is getting crazy

Was imran khan sandwiched between Goldsmith and Maxwell?
What secret society sh1t going on with our ummah leader?

So Robert Maxwell was the father of Ghislaine Maxwell aka Epstien GF and you gussed it Goldsmith was the father of Jemimah.
So has Imran Khan expressed regrets being in accompany with such people? Was Imran Khan a planted seed by the western elites to later distory Pakistan?
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James Goldsmith (1933–1997) and Robert Maxwell (1923–1991) were prominent, controversial British tycoons and media figures in the 1970s and 80s, noted for their aggressive business tactics, vast wealth, and shared efforts to legally confront Private Eye magazine. They were among the most powerful financiers of their era.

Is this part of the mass “expose” you had planned ? Re running some whacko theories from the 90s? I feel sorry for you but go on…

 

[pashtunkoum]

Pakistan has actually balanced its global relations with most countries quite well, in one sentence you try to imply Pakistan is "bending over for the US" but that clearly makes little sense when it is one of the strongest allies of China historically and consistently, the US' biggest peer competitor. That is just one example.

You seem deeply insecure with your inconsequential imagery issues and have very little tangible political points to make. It sounds like very personal issues being expressed here.

There is a time to pretend to be a macho-man brave warrior sar larp, then there is a time to be balanced between as many parties as possible. Those who don't understand this fall even harder than they rise as history has taught us.

Also your constant reference to the WoT is getting lazy now, that is something everyone in Pakistan regrets across party lines, and secondly that was a very unique point in politics where a major terrorist attack happened in the US and they were very much out for blood. There were very little options for a politically cornered Pakistan to play macho man to begin with.

Hold on. Deeply inconsequential image issues? So you think being a slave is inconsequential?

Pakistan lost hundreds of thousands of lives. Maybe millions indirectly. Billions in foreign investment. Loss of talent. Political and economic instability. Till THIS DAY America is done with Afghanistan and we are suffering. BLA type movements did not exist at this scale. Yeah no consequence.

And why is hearing about WoT so tiring to you? I thought you wanted IK supporters to talk about policy not passionate speeches?

The WoT approach is a core aspect of his philosophy. It also explains how when he said the Taliban WAS not a threat to Pakistan he was factually correct.

It is very related. You may not enjoy hearing the facts but that’s reality. If you disagree bring some solid facts and evidence. So far all I see here is “yahoodi agent” and “Taliban khan” type old statements we’ve seen since the 90s

 

[baqai]

everytime this thread bumps up i know i am gonna have a bp shot up :/

lets not post unverified posts, this goes for both PTI followers and opponents, i have mentioned this several times before, lets discuss with respect and stop throwing slangs to each other or post flame baits

 

[Rational Philosopher]

Hold on. Deeply inconsequential image issues? So you think being a slave is inconsequential?

Pakistan lost hundreds of thousands of lives. Maybe millions indirectly. Billions in foreign investment. Loss of talent. Political and economic instability. Till THIS DAY America is done with Afghanistan and we are suffering. BLA type movements did not exist at this scale. Yeah no consequence.

And why is hearing about WoT so tiring to you? I thought you wanted IK supporters to talk about policy not passionate speeches?

The WoT approach is a core aspect of his philosophy. It also explains how when he said the Taliban WAS not a threat to Pakistan he was factually correct.

It is very related. You may not enjoy hearing the facts but that’s reality. If you disagree bring some solid facts and evidence. So far all I see here is “yahoodi agent” and “Taliban khan” type old statements we’ve seen since the 90s

What is the point of you replying if you are not going to actually read what is written?

Repeating blanket assertions again and again that don't hold up to logical scrutiny or any counter-arguments is pointless. It's like a dead record.

There is nothing unique about his WoT approach, EVERY party including the military adopted that rhetoric once the peak of terrorism died down around 2017. Khawaja bangs on about it today still. Beating that drum is very easy once the original WoT is already largely over with the US gone.

 

[Watandar]

Cowardly and insecure hybrid farce regime isn't allowing Imran Khan to meet his family on Eid, in violation of his legal rights.

Imran again denied meeting with visitors

ISLAMABAD: PTI founder Imran Khan was once again denied a meeting with visitors on Tuesday, the fourth day of Eid, despite it being a designated meeting day, according to family members and party...

www.thenews.pk

 

[VCheng]

Cowardly and insecure hybrid farce regime isn't allowing Imran Khan to meet his family on Eid, in violation of his legal rights.

Let us not forget that family visits are allowed without politicizing them, so the family itself has a responsibility to do their part in making such visits possible.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

This thread should be renamed as:

"PTI Stupid Movement against Pakistan and it's people : News, Discussion & Updates"

 

[Samlee]

The article is a poorly generated AI piece that was likely specificially asked to produce a "refutation" hence why it is logically contradictory and to any literate person reading it, it actually proved that the entire meeting was to put Pakistan's GSP+ status in question.

The article was specifically made so cultists could have a one-stop headline to show it was "disproved"

@Watandar is intentionally disingenous and has quite literally lost every debate in here yet continues to spam it out of desparation. This is the pathetic state of the Pakistani Pahlavis.

Ok so government imprisons rights activists Iman Zainab Mazari and her husband over tweets, imprisons and murders journalists, Summon Norway's ambassador for attending the court proceedings,pass 26th and 27th amendments effectively rendering the judiciary toothless, passing draconian laws like PECA

But yeah sure EU and UK are little toddlers who didn't know what was happening and it took a speech by Kasim Khan to open their eyes to what was going on

 

[Rational Philosopher]

Ok so government imprisons rights activists Iman Zainab Mazari and her husband over tweets, imprisons and murders journalists, Summon Norway's ambassador for attending the court proceedings,pass 26th and 27th amendments effectively rendering the judiciary toothless, passing draconian laws like PECA

But yeah sure EU and UK are little toddlers who didn't know what was happening and it took a speech by Kasim Khan to open their eyes to what was going on

You are shifting the goal posts now. No one asked what the EU knows or does not.

The point of contention here is a party that claims to be the most "patriotic" actively trying to put the country's trading status in question.

To anyone with common sense, this can only have extremely narcisstic and malicious intentions, putting something critical on the line for your politics.

But I encourage you to continue doing that because now more and more people are realising this farce, overseas voices will soon be a fringe group of mentally ill folks that will die out alongside Imran Khan if it continues.

 

[Samlee]

You are shifting the goal posts now. No one asked what the EU knows or does not.

The point of contention here is a party that claims to be the most "patriotic" actively trying to put the country's trading status in question.

To anyone with common sense, this can only have extremely narcisstic and malicious intentions, putting something critical on the line for your politics.

But I encourage you to continue doing that because now more and more people are realising this farce, overseas voices will soon be a fringe group of mentally ill folks that will die out alongside Imran Khan if it continues.

No GHQ cultists like you are deflecting the subject.The international community doesn't need Kasim Khan to tell them that human rights and civil liberties are being violated.When a human rights activist gets a 27 year sentence over a tweet and a European ambassador is summoned for attending those proceedings,They know what is going on.

Secondly when you strangle any recourse to express your greviances or exercise your rights it is only natural to express dissent outside the country

 

[Samlee]

This thread should be renamed as:

"PTI Stupid Movement against Pakistan and it's people : News, Discussion & Updates"

How is the stock market doing nowadays.It's been a long time since you posted any thread

 

[Rational Philosopher]

No GHQ cultists like you are deflecting the subject.The international community doesn't need Kasim Khan to tell them that human rights and civil liberties are being violated.When a human rights activist gets a 27 year sentence over a tweet and a European ambassador is summoned for attending those proceedings,They know what is going on.

Secondly when you strangle any recourse to express your greviances or exercise your rights it is only natural to express dissent outside the country

You are desparate to deflect from the actions of your cult and then accuse others, no wonder you have only been on a consistent down path from where you started.

The fact that you feel ashamed to admit it says enougu, just like the pathetic Iranian diaspora, you are trying to lobby for attacks to damage your country itself out of a failure to do anything meaningfully at a political level.

 

[pashtunkoum]

What is the point of you replying if you are not going to actually read what is written?

Repeating blanket assertions again and again that don't hold up to logical scrutiny or any counter-arguments is pointless. It's like a dead record.

There is nothing unique about his WoT approach, EVERY party including the military adopted that rhetoric once the peak of terrorism died down around 2017. Khawaja bangs on about it today still. Beating that drum is very easy once the original WoT is already largely over with the US gone.

Eh?

1) Factually Wrong. He has had this position since the 2000s for which him and has party
has received a LOT of criticism.

2) Someone on here literally posted an article claiming how stupid he was for that position

3) I think it's you who isn't reading arguments and giving emotional anti IK responses. I clearly said regarding WoT blunder that even Khwaja Asif or any established political entity would have deal with it better than how Musharraf did.

However the response on here was that is not the case any anyone would have done what Musharraf did with IK being the one odd outlier disconnected from reality.

So far I have seen arguments on "yahoodi agents" "taliban khan" and "you like him for his looks!"

Waiting for thoughtful arguments.