Russia Auto Thread

[Yommie]

Actually since the invasion of Ukraine
Russia is cut off from Europe. Here in Germany almost all russian consulates are closed down. Perhaps we buy or lease those properties and open Pho restos. Win win.
Putin pushing hard to become second rate country totally dependent on China.

Russia don't need relation with Germany. Russia don't need to buy anything from Germany. These days Chinese cars are just as good if not better than German cars and cost way less.

 

[Yommie]

@Hamartia Antidote

Looks like Zeekr trumps Tesla in the Russian market.

‘Trend for electric cars changes constantly’: Zeekr outstrips Tesla, and Moskvitch — Evolute

How the balance of power in the Russian electric car market has changed

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[Yommie]

Return of scrap cars: after 2021 the car fleet in Russia will decrease rapidly The number of cars older than ten years in the Russian car fleet exceeded 70% 08/01/2024, 06:00 - Social Bites

As of the first half of this year, the number of cars over 10 years old exceeded 32 million, which is 71% of the entire Russian fleet. Such data was provided to socialbites.ca by the founder of the Automarketer project Oleg Moseev. At the end of 2021, the number of…

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Return of scrap cars: after 2021 the car fleet in Russia will decrease rapidly The number of cars older than ten years in the Russian car fleet exceeded 70% 08/01/2024, 06:00​

By ANIKA
August 1, 2024

As of the first half of this year, the number of cars over 10 years old exceeded 32 million, which is 71% of the entire Russian fleet. Such data was provided to socialbites.ca by the founder of the Automarketer project Oleg Moseev. At the end of 2021, the number of such vehicles was less than 27.2 million units.


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At the same time, the number of new cars in operation between 1-3 years old (see infographic for more details),

It has almost halved in the last 2.5 years.




“Yes, as you can see, the main target segment of dealers (cars with a warranty) has been shrinking in recent years. And significantly – from 4.2 to 2.2 million,” Moseev said.

If at the end of 2021 there were 3.16 million cars aged 4-5 years on Russian roads, now this number is already more than 5.15 million.

Why don’t Russians buy new cars?​

The average age of a passenger car in Russia in 2024, according to the analytical agency Autostat reached It means 15.2 years.

Last year, the average car on Russian roads aged by 6 months.

More than 1.5 million new cars need to be sold in Russia annually to rejuvenate the country’s car fleet, but the Russian market has not reached that figure for several years, Avtostat CEO Sergei Tselikov told socialbites.ca.




“If more than 2 million cars are sold per year, the car fleet will be at least a little younger.

We have imported quite a lot of used cars in the last two years,” Tselikov said.

The interlocutor emphasized that due to high prices, people are forced to buy second-hand imported cars. Tselikov added that the upcoming increase in the recycling fee will directly accelerate the negative dynamics of the increase in the average age of vehicles, as this will be followed by a very strong jump in prices for new cars, which will reduce demand for them.

“If the new car market reaches 1.5 million cars per year in the coming years, the average age will continue to increase. Moreover, 2-3 months can be added to this figure every year,” he predicts.

Anton Shaparin, vice president of the National Automobile Association (NAU), admits that now there are all conditions for the degradation of the country’s vehicle fleet due to the shrinkage of the new car market.

“The fleet renewal rate will slow down because

Increased recycling fee will make cars even cheaper for Russians.

If trends continue, it will be possible to say that the average age of cars will soon exceed 16 years,” Shaparin told socialbites.ca.

Autostat’s basic sales forecast for 2024 is exactly 1.5 million cars. The marketing agency NAPI gives a much more alarming forecast –

1.1 million cars will be sold by the end of this year.

The Russian Automobile Dealers Association predicts that the market will be 1.3 million vehicles in the pessimistic scenario and 1.65 million in the optimistic scenario. Detailed information about the situation in the Russian market on the eve of a significant increase in prices for new cars Wrote “socialbites.ca”.

Debris on the roads​

The situation is getting worse as the average age of cars increases, says Maxim Kadakov, editor-in-chief of Za Rulem magazine.

“If we consider the actual functioning of cars, we understand that in the last two years, many old cars have come onto the roads. If earlier they were standing in someone’s yard, now these cars have been repaired and are on the roads.

“The real situation on the roads has become worse than on paper,” he said.

— Kadakov argues in a conversation with socialbites.ca.

According to Anton Shaparin from the USA, the number and severity of accidents are increasing due to the large number of old emergency vehicles on the roads. This type of transport lacks many passive safety elements, such as basic ones, such as the exchange rate stabilization system, and modern active electronic assistants. Old domestic cars suffer especially badly from this; even now they come off the assembly line without ABS and ESP. The problem is that in Russia there are no statistics on accidents caused by automakers.

“In the event of an accident, we rarely analyze its causes. It is clear that the old fleet was always a problem, but there were no normal statistics, and control and supervision over the causes of accidents due to poor technical condition are not actually carried out,” Shaparin said.



The Russian car fleet is rapidly aging: if at the end of 2021 there were about 3 million cars aged 4-5 years on our roads, now there are almost twice as many. Two-thirds of the country’s car fleet consists of old, poorly maintained cars that can cause an accident at any time. Experts interviewed by socialbites.ca say that this trend will accelerate due to the increase in recycling collection and the high cost of loans.




Source: Gazeta

 

[Yommie]

Prices of Peugeot and Citroen cars fell sharply in Russia 15:59 - Social Bites

Prices for Peugeot and Citroen crossovers in Russia have fallen sharply since August 1. This was reported in a statement received by socialbites.ca from the Automobile Technologies company, which produces the Citroen C5 Aircross at the plant in Kaluga. “As of August 1, the cost of the Citroen C5...

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Prices of Peugeot and Citroen cars fell sharply in Russia 15:59​

By ANIKA
August 1, 2024

Prices for Peugeot and Citroen crossovers in Russia have fallen sharply since August 1. This was reported in a statement received by socialbites.ca from the Automobile Technologies company, which produces the Citroen C5 Aircross at the plant in Kaluga.

“As of August 1, the cost of the Citroen C5 Aircross is 3,899,000 rubles. The vehicle warranty is 3 years or 100,000 km. The new prices also affect all car models imported to Russia by Automobile Technologies LLC,” he said.

At the same time, the price of 2023 Citroen C5 Aircross cars fell by 400 thousand rubles and is offered for sale at a price of 3.7 million rubles. In the case of the Citroen C5X crossover, the price drop was 350 thousand rubles (the new price is 4.3 million rubles). Last year’s Peugeot 2008 fell in price by 686 thousand rubles and costs 3 million rubles, and the Peugeot 4008 – by 726 thousand rubles (up to 3.9 million rubles).

The Peugeot 5008 in the first Allure version dropped in price by a maximum of 800 thousand rubles and is sold for 4.2 million rubles. The price of the same car in the 2023 GT version dropped by 701 thousand rubles, and in the 2024 model – by 501 thousand rubles.

It was previously known that car service was carried out in Russia more expensive up 31% for the year.





Source: Gazeta

 

[Yommie]

It was revealed how many Ladas will be in taxis in 2024 16:21 - Social Bites

AvtoVAZ has been supplying Yandex since the beginning of the year. Taxi" 5 thousand Lada cars. About this reports TASS with reference to the head of the department for interaction with the federal authorities of AvtoVAZ Alexander Vinogradov. “For example, cooperation with Yandex brought us about...

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It was revealed how many Ladas will be in taxis in 2024 16:21​

By ANIKA
August 1, 2024

AvtoVAZ has been supplying Yandex since the beginning of the year. Taxi” 5 thousand Lada cars. About this reports TASS with reference to the head of the department for interaction with the federal authorities of AvtoVAZ Alexander Vinogradov.

“For example, cooperation with Yandex brought us about 5 thousand cars this year; we have already delivered them. If all this is increased (taking into account other taxi aggregators by the end of the year), it will be about 10 thousand. – TASS note),” the agency quoted Vinogradov as saying.

Vinogradov explained that the Lada Aura, production of which will begin in September 2024, is planned to be supplied to aggregators at a “business” price for use in taxis.

Before that, it was known that from 2022 the number of Chinese car brands on the Russian market will increase. increased It increased by 4.5 times, reaching 54. At the beginning of 2022, only 12 Chinese car brands operated in Russia.

Previously, in Russia, from August 1, a sharp The price has dropped Peugeot and Citroen cars.





Source: Gazeta

 

[Yommie]

SWM car brand refuses to launch G03F crossover on the Russian market this summer 16:55 - Social Bites

The management of the Chinese car brand SWM has postponed the Russian premiere of the G03F crossover. About this report "News". It was noted that the model was planned to be introduced to the Russian market at the end of summer, but the presentation was postponed to autumn this year.…

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SWM car brand refuses to launch G03F crossover on the Russian market this summer 16:55​

By ANIKA
August 1, 2024

The management of the Chinese car brand SWM has postponed the Russian premiere of the G03F crossover. About this report “News”.

It was noted that the model was planned to be introduced to the Russian market at the end of summer, but the presentation was postponed to autumn this year.

In China, the SWM G03F is called the Big Tiger. The car is 4605 mm long and its interior is designed for five or seven passengers, including the driver. In the domestic market, the basic version is offered with a 1.5-liter naturally aspirated engine with 110 hp. The transmission is a five-speed manual.

Brand SWM plans Large-scale investments in localization of production in Russia. This was reported by the analytical agency “Avtostat” with reference to the Russian distributor of SWM “Vostok Wind Rus”.

The development plan of SWM in Russia provides for the creation of a full-cycle production with welding and painting of bodies, capable of producing 40 thousand cars per year.

Currently, the SWM model range in Russia is represented by three crossovers with indices G01, G01F and G05 Pro.

Previously reportedIt was rumored that the Chery Tiggo 8L crossover, which is not yet sold in China, was brought to Russia.





Source: Gazeta

 

[Yommie]

It was learned how many Chinese car brands are on the Russian market 16:04 - Social Bites

The number of Chinese brands represented on the Russian market has increased by 4.5 times since the beginning of 2022, reaching 54. reports TASS, regarding the general director of the analytical agency "Avtostat" Sergei Udalov. "If at the beginning of 2022 there were 12 Chinese brands on the...

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It was learned how many Chinese car brands are on the Russian market 16:04​

By ANIKA
August 1, 2024

The number of Chinese brands represented on the Russian market has increased by 4.5 times since the beginning of 2022, reaching 54. reports TASS, regarding the general director of the analytical agency “Avtostat” Sergei Udalov.

“If at the beginning of 2022 there were 12 Chinese brands on the market, 60 brands in total, then in four months of 2024 we see that the total number will increase to 120, and the Chinese brands will increase to 54,” Udalov said.

Before that, the head of the Russian Motorists’ Movement Viktor Pokhmelkin appeared on NSN statedHe said Chinese cars were unpredictable and some could start “falling apart” within a year.

He noted that he could not name a single brand and model that would be consistent in quality. According to him, Chinese cars are expensive. This is because there is no competition. He also noted that if prices are not reduced, people will not buy such cars.

The most common Chinese cars in Russia is-is crossover Haval Jolion: as of the middle of this year, there were 116.2 thousand of them in the country, that is, 6.2% of the total number of “Chinese”.

Russians before in the name auto parts that are mostly fake.





Source: Gazeta

 

[Yommie]

Russians selected four reliable transitions for one million rubles from the Russian secondary market 13:50 - Social Bites

The most reliable crossovers costing up to 1 million rubles in the Russian secondary market are models from Toyota, Hyundai, Suzuki and Renault. This was told by Maxim Solodovnik, manager of used cars in the Fresh car market, socialbites.ca. “One of the most reliable used crossovers in the...

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Russians selected four reliable transitions for one million rubles from the Russian secondary market 13:50​

By ANIKA
August 1, 2024

The most reliable crossovers costing up to 1 million rubles in the Russian secondary market are models from Toyota, Hyundai, Suzuki and Renault. This was told by Maxim Solodovnik, manager of used cars in the Fresh car market, socialbites.ca.

“One of the most reliable used crossovers in the budget of up to 1 million rubles is the third-generation Toyota RAV4 of 2011-2012. The car body is quite resistant to corrosion, and the electronics are reliable. Only occasionally generator failures occur at a mileage of 130-150 thousand km. The engine life exceeds 300 thousand km,” the expert said.

The second reliable crossover with mileage, in his opinion, is the Suzuki Grand Vitara. This model has only two weak points: automatic transmissions require frequent oil changes, and the converter fails after 40 thousand km. Prices for such cars start from 600 thousand rubles.

In the secondary market, there is another trouble-free crossover, which was once a bestseller on the Russian market – the first-generation Renault Duster. Its restyled version can be found for 900 thousand rubles. Significant advantages include a welded body made of galvanized metal, which does not rot for a long time, as well as engines that can last about 300 thousand km without major overhaul.

Hyundai ix35 is another reliable crossover that can be purchased for 1 million rubles. Solodovnik explained that its diesel and gasoline engines do not require intervention after 150-200 thousand kilometers and are quite economical.

Russians before It has been saidWhat can’t be done before selling the car?





Source: Gazeta

 

[Yommie]

Chery crossover that is not available in China was spotted in Russia 12:47 - Social Bites

Alexander, subscriber of the portal “Chinese cars” The photo was taken In a parking lot in Moscow there is a Chery Tiggo 8L crossover that is not on the Chinese market. "The model has not yet entered the Chinese market. By the way, this example has an additional cover on…

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Chery crossover that is not available in China was spotted in Russia 12:47​

By ANIKA
August 1, 2024

Alexander, subscriber of the portal “Chinese cars” The photo was taken In a parking lot in Moscow there is a Chery Tiggo 8L crossover that is not on the Chinese market.

“The model has not yet entered the Chinese market. By the way, this example has an additional cover on the left rear fender. Judging by the license plates, the car is registered to FSUE NAMI. Most likely, the new product is being tested in Russia,” the message said.

The new generation of the model was introduced in June 2024. The dimensions and wheelbase of the crossover with the prefix L are larger than those of the Tiggo 8 Pro Max. Its length is 4795 mm (+75 mm), its width is 1930 mm (+70 mm), and its height is 1725 mm (+20 mm). The wheelbase size was 2770 mm (+60 mm). Five- and seven-seat versions will be available in China.

The car will receive a 2.0-liter turbo engine with a capacity of 254 hp. and a classic eight-speed automatic transmission. Front-wheel drive or all-wheel drive. The maximum speed with such a combination will be 200 km / h.

Russians before It has been said About the disadvantages of the Chery Tiggo 7 Pro Max crossover.





Source: Gazeta

 

[Yommie]

Moskvich automobile plant presented a new crossover model 12:04 - Social Bites

In the capital of Russia as part of the forum festival "Region of the Future". Moscow 2030" It happened The first public demonstration of the new crossover model Moskvich 8. Moskvich 8 is a seven-seater crossover with a length of 4,824 mm, a width of 1,870 mm and a height…

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Moskvich automobile plant presented a new crossover model 12:04​

By ANIKA
August 1, 2024

In the capital of Russia as part of the forum festival “Region of the Future”. Moscow 2030″ It happened The first public demonstration of the new crossover model Moskvich 8.

Moskvich 8 is a seven-seater crossover with a length of 4,824 mm, a width of 1,870 mm and a height of 1,756 mm. The car had a massive radiator grille with LED optics and a spacious interior. Under the hood is a 174 hp GDI gasoline engine. The transmission is seven-speed, robotic.

Before reportedThe new Moskvich 8 crossover will replace similar Korean models on the Russian market. According to auto experts, it will be a domestic analogue of the Hyundai Santa Fe and Kia Sorento models, which are no longer officially supplied to our country. The car’s competitors are called Chery Tiggo 8 and Geely Okavango. The car also has a digital instrument panel, wireless phone charging, a 360-degree camera system and much more.

Previously reportedIt is planned to start production of another Chinese car in Belarus.





Source: Gazeta

 

[Yommie]

Two-thirds of Russia's car fleet turned into scrap 07:03 - Social Bites

The number of cars in Russia that are 10 years old and older has exceeded 32 million, which is 71% of the country's entire fleet. The founder of the Automarketer project, Oleg Moseev, told socialbites.ca about this. The auto expert provides data indicating that in 2021 the number of such…

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Two-thirds of Russia’s car fleet turned into scrap 07:03​

By ANIKA
August 1, 2024

The number of cars in Russia that are 10 years old and older has exceeded 32 million, which is 71% of the country’s entire fleet. The founder of the Automarketer project, Oleg Moseev, told socialbites.ca about this. The auto expert provides data indicating that in 2021 the number of such old cars was 27.2 million units.

The worst dynamics are for cars that are still under warranty from the automaker; the number of new cars of this type has halved since 2021.

“Yes, as you can see, the main target segment of dealers (cars with a warranty) has been shrinking in recent years. And significantly, from 4.2 to 2.2 million,” Moseev quoted these figures.

At the same time, there are now prerequisites for a more serious deterioration of the Russian car fleet due to the planned indexation of the recycling fee in October, which will lead to an increase in prices for new cars, says Anton Shaparin, vice-president of the National Automobile Association (NAU).

“The pace of fleet renewal will slow down because rising recycling fees will make cars even cheaper for Russians. If trends continue, it is possible to say that the average age of cars will soon exceed 16 years,” Shaparin told socialbites.ca.

socialbites.ca spoke in more detail about what is happening in the country’s vehicle fleet now. publications.

It was previously known that there were cars in Russia will become more expensive by 10% due to indexation of the recycling fee.





Source: Gazeta

 

[Yommie]

Citroen and Peugeot cars became cheaper in Russia

On August 1st, the company

eng.autostat.ru

Citroen and Peugeot cars became cheaper in Russia​

02.08.24

On August 1st, the company "Automobile Technologies" informed about new prices for Citroen and Peugeot model range presented in Russia. Experts of "AUTOSTAT" agency familiarized themselves with the new ones and found out that the cars of French brands became cheaper by 350 - 800 thousand rubles. So, Citroen C5 Aircross crossover lost in price 400 thousand rubles.

Now the minimum price of this model is 3,699,000 rubles (for cars manufactured in 2023). At the same time, the same cars of 2024 manufacture year cost more by 200 thousand rubles (from 3,899,000 rubles). Recall that Citroen C5 Aircross crossover is produced at PSMA Rus plant in Kaluga using the SKD-4 scheme of 800 component groups and 1,700 parts.

It is equipped with 1.6-liter gasoline engine with an output of 175 hp, which works in combination with an 8-speed automatic transmission. It is also worth noting that Citroen C5 Aircross is included in the list of cars recommended for priority use by state and municipal employees. The warranty on the car is 3 years or 100,000 kilometers of mileage. The price reduction has also affected other models that the company "Automobile Technologies" imports to our country.

 

[Yommie]

Public premiere of Moskvich 8 crossover has taken place

The seven-seat crossover Moskvich 8 has been presented to a wide audience for the first time at the exhibition

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Public premiere of Moskvich 8 crossover has taken place​

02.08.24

The seven-seat crossover Moskvich 8 has been presented to a wide audience for the first time at the exhibition "Station Manege. Moscow Transport 2030" on August 1, Izvestia reports. Production and the start of sales are scheduled before the end of year. The crossover will be the largest model of the brand. It is 4,824 mm in length, 1,870 mm in width and 1,756 mm in height.

Wheelbase is equal to 2,830 mm. Ground clearance is 170 mm. Under the bonnet of the car there is a gasoline turbo GDI engine with a volume of 1.5 liters and 174 hp. It works in tandem with a 7-speed "robot". The drive is front-wheel drive. A distinctive feature of the crossover is a massive grille, as well as a line of LED optics along the trunk.

The interior features comfortable ergonomic seats, digital dashboard with a 12.3-inch diagonal display, all-round vision system, wireless charging for gadgets, support for Apple CarPlay and Android Auto and other options.

 

[Yommie]

Over 70% of vehicles in the Russian Federation are 10 years old and older

As of July 1, 2024, there were 40 million vehicles (cars, light commercial vehicles, trucks and buses) in our country whose age is 10 years and older. Such data were obtained by the experts of the analytical agency

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Over 70% of vehicles in the Russian Federation are 10 years old and older​

As of July 1, 2024, there were 40 million vehicles (cars, light commercial vehicles, trucks and buses) in our country whose age is 10 years and older. Such data were obtained by the experts of the analytical agency "AUTOSTAT" in the course of preparation of the report "Vehicle Fleet in the Russian Federation as of 01.07.2024". According to the experts, the share of vehicles manufactured at least 10 years ago is 72.8%. Accordingly, the remaining 27.2% are younger than 10 years (15 million vehicles).

However, a more detailed analysis reveals that the age situation is somewhat different in each of segments. Thus, as of the middle of this year, in the bus segment (the smallest of all segments) the share of vehicles in the "10 years and older" category was 67.3%. Quantitatively, it amounts to 250.4 thousand out of 372.2 thousand buses, which are registered in the Russian Federation. In the segment of light commercial vehicles (LCV), 76% of all such vehicles (3.2 million out of 4.2 million vehciles) are 10 years old and above.

In the passenger car fleet the situation looks a little better: the share of the category "10 years and older" here is 72.2%. However, since this is the most numerous of the segments, the number of "old" cars here is the largest - 33.8 million vehicles (out of 46.8 million vehicles). The worst situation is in the segment of trucks: here the share of vehicles aged 10 years and older is 77.5%. Quantitatively, this is 2.84 million out of 3.66 million registered trucks.

 

[Yommie]

Production of truck components has been launched in Tatarstan

A full cycle foundry production site for the production of trucks has been launched in Naberezhnye Chelny by NPO Rostar. The main customers are KAMAZ, Ural, NEFAZ and AMT N.V., according to the press service of Industrial Development Fund. Investments in production amounted to more than 100...

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Production of truck components has been launched in Tatarstan​

A full cycle foundry production site for the production of trucks has been launched in Naberezhnye Chelny by NPO Rostar. The main customers are KAMAZ, Ural, NEFAZ and AMT N.V., according to the press service of Industrial Development Fund. Investments in production amounted to more than 100 million rubles. Among them, 57.4 million rubles was provided by the Industrial Development Fund in the form of a soft loan under the federal-regional program "Components".

Other 24.6 million rubles was allocated by the Investment and Venture Fund of Tatarstan. According to Sergey Klyuchnikov, General Director of NPO "Rostar", thanks to the purchase of technological equipment it was possible to rebuild the site for the production of components from a semi-manual to an automated format, which will reduce the cost of automotive components and increase the level of localization of trucks. After reaching the design capacity, the production volume will be 2.4 thousand tons of products per year. Within the framework of the project, the production of brake suspension parts and truck steering levers - various types of brackets, as well as spring shoes and linings - has been set up.

The company plans to increase its market share from 14% to 20%, replacing foreign analogs. According to the company's estimates, the share of imported suspension and steering components on the Russian market in the truck segment is about 80%.

Thanks to the launch of an automated foundry, the company managed to replace the supplied raw materials with its own. Most of the materials and raw materials used in production are Russian. The level of product localization has reached 85%.