Russia Defense .net forum shut down by hosting company

[Arrow]

Sorry no, I don't have any links to any ex-RDF members, and have no idea regarding anything that GarryB might be considering.

It’s a real shame. We’ve lost a truly great forum and many knowledgeable users. I had been there for 14 years.

 

[KAL-EL]

Yes. He made an un necessary fuss over a post I made about the poor performance of Russian AD against slow Ukr drones.

Well he has to learn that everyone has a right to their thoughts here

 

[Zhuge Liang]

Well he has to learn that everyone has a right to their thoughts here

He threw a bunch of ad hominem attacks at me and the 2 posts of his have been deleted.

 

[KAL-EL]

He threw a bunch of ad hominem attacks at me and the 2 posts of his have been deleted.

Just keep reporting or put him on ignore. I think maybe you did already, not sure?

 

[Zhuge Liang]

Just keep reporting or put him on ignore. I think maybe you did already, not sure?

I'll put him on ignore.

 

[BigGazza]

He threw a bunch of ad hominem attacks at me and the 2 posts of his have been deleted.

Ad hominem attacks? Or just simply shining a light on what you did and to challenge your blatent smearing of the many victims of your perfidy?

Its galling to read your screeds of righteousness, while my attempts at correcting the public record get exiled to the void but thats fairly typical of officially-mandated intolerance of those with "unpopular" convictions based on fact rather than ideology.

 

[BigGazza]

Well he has to learn that everyone has a right to their thoughts here

...except for people like me it would seem? Posts deleted because the truth upset the guilty party who would rather hide what he did than be held accountable?

My position is simply that ex-members of RDF should have a right of reply, and not be silenced out of hand simply because the guilty party dislikes being challenged and revealed for what he did. I don't think that such is too much to ask for.

I hade hoped that this forum would prove to be fair-minded but it seems my hopes may have been misplaced?

 

[Watandar]

...except for people like me it would seem? Posts deleted because the truth upset the guilty party who would rather hide what he did than be held accountable?

I hade hoped that this forum would prove to be fair-minded but it seems my hopes may have been misplaced...

Let's move on.

 

[KAL-EL]

...except for people like me it would seem? Posts deleted because the truth upset the guilty party who would rather hide what he did than be held accountable?

My position is simply that ex-members of RDF should have a right of reply, and not be silenced out of hand simply because the guilty party dislikes being challenged and revealed for what he did. I don't think that such is too much to ask for.

I hade hoped that this forum would prove to be fair-minded but it seems my hopes may have been misplaced?

Well of course anyone on this room has a right to reply to someone else as as long as it doesn't violate the forums TOS

And no one should certainly be silenced. If there's an issue feel free to report and if necessary place the individual on ignore

 

[BigGazza]

If you have evidence that I reported the forum for political reasons - feel free to provide it, otherwise I feel no reason to engage with you. I won't let you throw baseless accusations against me without proof, I was an RDF member for 11 years with 4000+ posts, including hundreds or more of pro-Russian (and pro-Chinese) ones.

Riiiight.. I am supposed to obtain evidence regarding your true motivations rather than your official justifications for betraying the rest of the community through cherry-picking the odd harsh outburst from the forums more combustive members. You developed some sort of resentment aganst us, then resorted to underhanded techniques to spite everyone. If the forum was so "toxic", you could have simply left, but you opted to screw over everyone, and now you are here repeating your allegations to add insult to injury.

Don't big-note yourself and pretend you were some lynchpin of the forum. I was there longer and had a larger postig tally.

 

[BigGazza]

Well of course anyone on this room has a right to reply to someone else as as long as it doesn't violate the forums TOS

Agree 100%, but why does my antagonist get to repeat his accusations while my responses are erased from the record?

Is it a violation of TOS to forcefully respond to falsehoods and slander?

This "person" betrayed us all and robbed us of a place that many of us cherished and valued. Now he sits on a perch and repeats his venom to a new audience who knows no better, while those who attempt to call him out and correct the record are silenced.

Forgive me pls for being rather unsatisfied by this arrangement.

I'm done now, and will move on.

 

[Arrow]

This "person" betrayed us all and robbed us of a place that many of us cherished and valued. Now he sits on a perch and repeats his venom to a new audience who knows no better, while those who attempt to call him out and correct the record are silenced.

Forgive me pls for being rather unsatisfied by this arrangement.

I'm done now, and will move on.

The worst part is that the entire forum was trashed in a split second. Over 15 years of history—I’m speechless. There’s no way to contact the administrator, either, since the forum was the only point of contact. If something bothered someone, they could have just not read it, rather than destroying the whole forum.

 

[ucmvulcan]

what happened to Russiadefense? I did know some people were trying to get the site shut down and were baiting other people to see if they could trigger a crackdown and it looks like sadly they succeeded. Oh well Gazza and Arrow are here. Anyone else?

 

[ucmvulcan]

RDF was not banned for being pro-Russian but for hate speech (prominent users hosting incitement to murder/genocide, racial hatred and Holocaust denial), with the admin willfully tolerating it and refusing to moderate. Geopolitical sympathies had nothing to do with the ban.

I think some of those guys had a mission to use that speech to try to kill that forum and sadly they succeeded

 

[Arrow]

what happened to Russiadefense? I did know some people were trying to get the site shut down and were baiting other people to see if they could trigger a crackdown and it looks like sadly they succeeded. Oh well Gazza and Arrow are here. Anyone else?

It got banned. It was too substantive. Not everyone liked that. There are no other RDF members here. We are trying to get in touch with GarryB to find out if he has any plans to reactivate the RDF.