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Tabmachine said:
hes just ragebaiting its obvious at this point, he just picks out accusations against other forum members that will incite reactions, lets it ride out for a few posts, then plants another accusation



you can observe that the post he is replying to does not posit any such dichotomy as what he is claiming, so he is just finding opportunities to insert statements to continue the cycle
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i bet he pays top dollars to the sell out admins of this forum
 
MH.Yang said:
There is a Chinese idiom. I wonder if you, a self-proclaimed "Chinese-Australian", know it. It's called "斗米恩，升米仇". It's about a rich man who supports his poor neighbor with 6.9 kilograms of rice a month for many years, and his neighbor is very grateful to him. But one year the rich man had financial difficulties, so he changed his support to 0.35 kg. The neighbor was so unhappy that he immediately became hateful to the rich man and accused him of stealing his rice, just as the others had done. Do you understand now why Zelensky hates Trump? A populist country like Ukraine can actually go from pro-Western to anti-Western in just a few kilograms of rice.

Chinese civilization has lasted too long. We understand more than anyone else the versatility of human nature, and we understand more than anyone else what kind of hell a country that incites populism, a country that does not have a corresponding philosophy and civilization to hedge against populism, will end up being.

You're naive if you think Ukraine won't change, think Bin Laden or Saddam, both of whom were originally pro-American. As the creator of the global order, do you really think it's possible to never anger a bunch of populist lunatics?
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That idiom is talking about if you overly help that someone, they Become dependent, and when you stop helping them, they hate you.

First of all, that can also applied to Russia and China, in fact, I personally know quite a few Russian who started to hate the Chinese for dangling them to be punched by NATO while they think China didn't help enough as "Blood Brother"

Secondly, this does not applies in this case, because we aren't talking about a person who may be down on his luck or whatever, we are talking about a total annihilation scenario. Again, whether or not the American or West help them, that's not going to change how they hated the Russian. Because this is a fact that they invaded Ukraine, and start killing their neighbor. This is like Iraq, or when Japan invaded China, how much do you think the Sunni and Shia in Iraq hated each other, but when we come in, we give them a common enemy, whether or not they hated each other, they hate us more, same thing happened to Japan when Communist and Nationalist in China was fighting each other, and then the Japanese comes in and started killing your neighbor whether or not they are communist or nationalist, that changed pretty quick.

You ask me whether or not I think they won't change? No, people change, but will they go back to Russia when it was the Russian dressed in green come into Ukraine and murder their neighbor and rape their children? I can tell you this, they don't really like American over in Ukraine, in fact, they see us as arrogant, and now indecisive, but does that mean they will like the Russian more? Well, I will let you find that out.
 
F-22Raptor said:
I don’t support any genocide, I just state facts you don’t like to hear.

PDF becoming an echo chamber of antisemitism is not a good look for this forum.
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we can feel your frustration jew because the goyim have woken up. your hasbara project no longer works. the great noticing has begun.
just do another false flag op like 9/11 maybe things will change
 
j_hungary said:
That idiom is talking about if you overly help that someone, they Become dependent, and when you stop helping them, they hate you.

First of all, that can also applied to Russia and China, in fact, I personally know quite a few Russian who started to hate the Chinese for dangling them to be punched by NATO while they think China didn't help enough as "Blood Brother"

Secondly, this does not applies in this case, because we aren't talking about a person who may be down on his luck or whatever, we are talking about a total annihilation scenario. Again, whether or not the American or West help them, that's not going to change how they hated the Russian. Because this is a fact that they invaded Ukraine, and start killing their neighbor. This is like Iraq, or when Japan invaded China, how much do you think the Sunni and Shia in Iraq hated each other, but when we come in, we give them a common enemy, whether or not they hated each other, they hate us more, same thing happened to Japan when Communist and Nationalist in China was fighting each other, and then the Japanese comes in and started killing your neighbor whether or not they are communist or nationalist, that changed pretty quick.

You ask me whether or not I think they won't change? No, people change, but will they go back to Russia when it was the Russian dressed in green come into Ukraine and murder their neighbor and rape their children? I can tell you this, they don't really like American over in Ukraine, in fact, they see us as arrogant, and now indecisive, but does that mean they will like the Russian more? Well, I will let you find that out.
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Populists love only themselves and are not willing to take responsibility. They will blame foreigners for anything bad. Any help you give them will be taken for granted, and when interrupted it will attract hatred. We have seen too many of these countries in our history.

And as a maker and maintainer of the international order, you can't please anyone or never offend a country. China, which has ruled the order in the East throughout its history, is well aware of this.

Actually Trump did the right thing. But Western culture can't understand that.
 
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Viet said:
yes I know. but to end this war Ukraine must inflict unsustainable costs to Russia. there is no other way. bringing the war back to Putin´s homeland is imperative. of course much easier for Ukraine because Russia is the immediate neighbor, unlike let´s say Viet Nam to the US.
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Ukraine did not strike Russia- NATO did.

Repercussions are going to be serious
 
Viet said:
the russians are caught in underwear down. they focus on terror bombings. Ukraine focus on russian military capacity. the drones have destroyed airbases, strategic bombers, aircraft, bridges, railroads deep insde Russia with a single strike.
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Partially true. That operation is brilliant and perfectly executed with a minimum cost. But, please, don't continue with such propaganda, Russia are not focused in terror bombings. That paper belongs to whom you know perfectly, but such is another topic...
 
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Flotilla said:
Partially true. That operation is brilliant and perfectly executed with a minimum cost. But, please, don't continue with such propaganda, Russia are not focused in terror bombings. That paper belongs to whom you know perfectly, but such is another topic...
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the russians do terror bomings. that´s the fact. Putin´s endgame to eliminate Ukraine as nation and race. Putin will do that no matter the cost to Russia. this war will end very ugly. there is no way out. the russians suffer 5,000 men a day as the newest estimate by Finland.
 
The Midget Jew Clown wants to drag the world into WW3. His wish may come true......

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MH.Yang said:
Populists love only themselves and are not willing to take responsibility. They will blame foreigners for anything bad. Any help you give them will be taken for granted, and when interrupted it will attract hatred. We have seen too many of these countries in our history.

And as a maker and maintainer of the international order, you can't please anyone or never offend a country. China, which has ruled the order in the East throughout its history, is well aware of this.

Actually Trump did the right thing. But Western culture can't understand that.
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Dude, again, Russia is NOT AT ALL POPULAR in Ukraine, you can't have a populist to go after an unpopular idea. If such populist exist, he probably is going to be shot before he can enter politics.

Also, populist only can survive with active measure, again, you can't support an active measure campaign for Russia in Ukraine probably for the next few generation.

They may hate America or the West, but they WILL ALWAYS HATED RUSSIA MORE, because when the Ukrainian talk about this war, it wouldn't matter how much that person hated the west, they are going to go at Russian for starting this war, instead of the west not helping enough.

Trump did nothing, which is the worse, you can pro something and anti-something, but when you have no opinion on something and just let it rip, that's the worse. West Supporting Ukraine is as right as China support Russia. It's a perspective thing
 
Tzar nuke on Kiev......

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Patience has it's limits.....

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