Russia-Ukraine War - News, Discussions & Updates

[Mobius]

 

[TopGun786]

Attack on the Yuzhmash defense plant of Ukraine on July 3. Powerful explosions occurred at the Yuzhmash plant in the Dnepropetrovsk region. According to Ukrainian media, a combined attack on the largest defense enterprise in eastern Ukraine, the Yuzhmash plant, was carried out by the Russian army.
The attack used Iskander-M, Iskander-K and Kh-59 missiles, as well as kamikaze drones Geran and Orlan-10. According to Ukrainian media, the air defense shot down everything except two Iskander-K missiles.

Yes, as usual Ukrainian Air defense shot everything

 

[dbc]

LMAO!!!

@Mobius please post on topic. news and discussions related to the war is welcome. Troll humor isn't.

 

[j_hungary]

Yup war raises economic activity. I wish the West had learned its own history. America ended the 30 Depression because of WWII . But they did believe in their own cool aid and expected Russia to buckle under sanction and embargo. Big mistakes! Instead, Russia thrives and produces gazillion weapons that the West can never ever match

Problem is, you can't eat weapon, and the best rate you can do is to trade it off, if those were being used, that's not the question here.

What you are referring to is called "War Economics" where you prioritise military production over civilian production. The issue here is, while you get pay making guns, artillery round and tanks, your people still need to eat. Your government still need to function. Right now both were covered by the good grace from China. But will they support Russia by keep dumping money in a pit?

US actually had a similar trajectory during WW2. The only different between US then and Russia now is US rebuilding Europe fund the war bond they made during the war, if US had not win or won that war that decisively, they would be bankrupted and not going to bounce back, because that war bond was owing heck a lot of money. Russia is the same stage; they are owing a lot of accounts. The only issue I have is, I don't think anyone is going to pay that off for Russia. And the longer they are in war, that debt is only going to rack up. Can China continue the subsidiary? Or would they even wanted to? That's a better question you should ask.

On the other hand, you also need to look at Russian work force in the future. Current projection for Russian median age in 2040 will be around 45 years old.

Median Age of Russian Federation 1950-2024 & Future Projections

Learn more about the population ofRussian Federation

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Most country around the world (even in Africa) is between high 30 to low 40, only Ukraine (at 46) is worse than Russia, their workforce is going to shrink, and unless Russia have a major immigration intake or extend the retirement age for half a decade to a decade, you can't support a economy with just average 15-20 years work life.

 

[Viet]

Yup war raises economic activity. I wish the West had learned its own history. America ended the 30 Depression because of WWII . But they did believe in their own cool aid and expected Russia to buckle under sanction and embargo. Big mistakes! Instead, Russia thrives and produces gazillion weapons that the West can never ever match

That’s because the west never participated a land war. Even after the russians took Crimea the west still dreamed of peace of century. Then when Putin ordered the full scale invasion the west was caught in underwear. Merkel was a delusional dreamer. She pushed Germany into full dependency of russian gas. German army, military industrial complex were stripped off to the bones.

The west can learn from us the Viet people. We never believe to chinese peaceful rise shit.

 

[Hendarto]

That’s because the west never participated a land war. Even after the russians took Crimea the west still dreamed of peace of century. Then when Putin ordered the full scale invasion the west was caught in underwear. Merkel was a delusional dreamer. She pushed Germany into full dependency of russian gas. German army, military industrial complex were stripped off to the bones.

The west can learn from us the Viet people. We never believe to chinese peaceful rise shit.

What, the West dream of peace? you mean the West station troops and missiles in Ukraine and expected the Russians to say hallelujah. that is what you mean . The West provoked Russia in every way they could. They don't live up to the Minsk agreement and botched negotiated peace broker by Turkey. So where did you get the idea of dreaming of peace?

No Merkel said clearly they never intended to honor the Minsk agreement It is a ruse to buy time to prepare the Ukrainian army for its aggression against Donetsk.

China had no design on Vietnam and Vietnam sued for peace because they knew without peace there would be no development.

 

[Viet]

What, the West dream of peace? you mean the West station troops and missiles in Ukraine and expected the Russians to say hallelujah. that is what you mean . The West provoked Russia in every way they could. They don't live up to the Minsk agreement and botched negotiated peace broker by Turkey. So where did you get the idea of dreaming of peace?

No Merkel said clearly they never intended to honor the Minsk agreement It is a ruse to buy time to prepare the Ukrainian army for its aggression against Donetsk.

China had no design on Vietnam and Vietnam sued for peace because they knew without peace there would be no development.

Nonsense
The reality is, Merkel was delusional but not that delusional. She was a member of communist pioneer she speaks russian, she knows the russian nature, she knows Putin intentions. She knows Putin wants war. Yes, Germany agreed to Minsk accords on paper but yes, with the agenda that gives the Ukraine army enough time to rebuild the army and industrial complex.

Ukraine rejected the turkey’s agreement because that is a very bad deal for Ukraine.

 

[SolarWarden]

Nork weapons should come with a severe warning label

 

[Hendarto]

Nonsense
The reality is, Merkel was delusional but not that delusional. She was a member of communist pioneer she speaks russian, she knows the russian nature, she knows Putin intentions. She knows Putin wants war. Yes, Germany agreed to Minsk accords on paper but yes, with the agenda that gives the Ukraine army enough time to rebuild the army and industrial complex.

Ukraine rejected the turkey’s agreement because that is a very bad deal for Ukraine.

And continuing war is a good deal for Ukraine? well I guess they like destroyed cities and villages. 10 million became refugees, and 600,000 men died. countless children lost their mom and dad?

 

[Hendarto]

Problem is, you can't eat weapon, and the best rate you can do is to trade it off, if those were being used, that's not the question here.

What you are referring to is called "War Economics" where you prioritise military production over civilian production. The issue here is, while you get pay making guns, artillery round and tanks, your people still need to eat. Your government still need to function. Right now both were covered by the good grace from China. But will they support Russia by keep dumping money in a pit?

US actually had a similar trajectory during WW2. The only different between US then and Russia now is US rebuilding Europe fund the war bond they made during the war, if US had not win or won that war that decisively, they would be bankrupted and not going to bounce back, because that war bond was owing heck a lot of money. Russia is the same stage; they are owing a lot of accounts. The only issue I have is, I don't think anyone is going to pay that off for Russia. And the longer they are in war, that debt is only going to rack up. Can China continue the subsidiary? Or would they even wanted to? That's a better question you should ask.

On the other hand, you also need to look at Russian work force in the future. Current projection for Russian median age in 2040 will be around 45 years old.

Median Age of Russian Federation 1950-2024 & Future Projections

Learn more about the population ofRussian Federation

database.earth

Most country around the world (even in Africa) is between high 30 to low 40, only Ukraine (at 46) is worse than Russia, their workforce is going to shrink, and unless Russia have a major immigration intake or extend the retirement age for half a decade to a decade, you can't support a economy with just average 15-20 years work life.

Russia is a storehouse of mineral and agricultural products They can sell those to the world market So they should have no problem with funding the war. China is next door and a consumer of everything Their economy is complementary like Canada and US. All they need is to build infrastructure connecting the 2 countries which they are doing now. With China's BRI initiative. and Siberia II China needs to prepare for the day when the West blockades the Malacca Straits.

Unlike the West Russia still values traditional family values and children are a big part of it. The Russian demographic is healthy. Russian casualties are exaggerated but the Uki. The Russians are not gang press to join the army they are volunteer and they have no problem with recruitment They can easily raise a million army with no problem. Russia lost 22 million people in a great patriotic war but they still manage!

 

[ahmadbhutta]

Let's Go Champ!!!!

Torsk is next to chasiv Yar ?

 

[F-22Raptor]

Russian assault destroyed

 

[F-22Raptor]

 

[Soldier35]

Footage of the combat work of the Russian T-72B3M tank west of Avdeevka. The modernized T-72B3M tanks appeared in 2022, technical information about it is on the channel. The tank is reported to be firing a 125mm cannon with high-explosive fragmentation shells at a distance of 800 meters, supporting an infantry advance on a Ukrainian army stronghold. Judging by the video, an unknown electronic warfare system is installed on the tank, since Ukrainian FPV drones attacking it do not fire at the tank; this usually rarely happens in combat operations. The video has been shortened.

 

[Persian Gulf]