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Turkiye is making its name in league of giants with $billion USD investments that is revolutionizing Turkiye's aviation infrastructure and are built to support KAAN

Most of them are located on a single campus, making it most comprehensive integrated aviation test facility in the world


-- Engineering Center
-- Trisonic and Subsonic Wind Tunnels ... ( 2nd largest in Europe )
-- Radar cross section (RCS) testing Facility .... ( 5th largest in the World )
-- Composite production Facility ..... ( 4th largest in the World )
-- Radar and EW production Facility
-- Iron Bird flight control Test
-- Lightning test Center
-- Bird strike test System

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Features of TULGAR Helmet , developed specifically for KAAN Pilots


F-22 , J-20 , SU-57 and KF-21 use HUD ( head-up display )

F-35 and KAAN use HMDS ( Helmet Mounted Display System )



A similar helmet technology is also used by F-35 Pilots

Aselsan TULGAR Helmet Mounted Display System (HMDS)

-- Visor Projected, See-Through Color Display
-- Integrated Digital Night Vision Projected on Visor
-- Hybrid (Inertial & Optical) Head Tracking
-- Targeting where the pilot is looking
-- Multicolored interface. ( first in the world )

General Specifications
• Lightweight helmet
• Color display
• Personalized inner liner for accurate fit and comfort
• Digital night vision
• Hybrid head tracking system
• Active noise reduction (ANR)
• Compatibility with eyeglasses
• 3D audio compatibility
• 40°(H)-by-32°(V) field of view

TULPAR supports the pilot during missions with high resolution color imagery projected onto the visor. Equipped with cutting edge optical design, it possesses high field of view and seethrough capability.

HMDS features an integrated digital night vision module.
This enables the system to be operable during both day and night missions without any modification on the headgear assembly.
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Chief of General Staff of Egypt examined the HURJET at TAI facilities.
29.04.2024

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When is the next prototype going to be built? this is still the 1st prototype right?

Within the scope of the HURJET project, it is planned to produce 2 prototype flyable Aircraft
More than 50 test flights have been carried out with the first prototype so far

And construction of the 2nd HURJET prototype continues and will begin test flights later in 2024 with some noted structural and systems modifications geared towards a serial production model accommodating MURAD AESA Radar
 
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In the Malaysian tender, the Turkish plane was the cheapest, but due to the fact that the plane was not actually in service and was not issued, it was rejected. The Korean plane was priced at 50 million dollars. The Turkish plane was sold at a price of 35 million dollars. The problem remains at specific points.

The American GE F-404 engine has modest aircraft performance
2 - American restrictions on quantitative supply: General Electric Company was able to supply only 20 GE-404 engines to India annually, which hinders the export of the LCA Mk1A aircraft, which is the highest performance, most equipped, and highest-performance aircraft, the Indian version with a 20,200-pound engine, and the Korean and Turkish versions with a 17,700-pound engine.
The specifications of the Turkish aircraft are lower than other aircraft, and this is agreed upon by everyone
Only the entry of the Turks into the competition will put pressure on the Koreans to reduce the prices of their aircraft to be more competitive, and we still see the Indian aircraft as better than the Korean and Turkish ones.


In general, the Turks see Egypt as a large market, and we are personally against any cooperation with the Turks because it will develop their industrial ability, even if they transfer technology, because Turkey remains a regional competitor and a regional enemy on many issues due to their investment and expansionist ideas, and Egypt still maintains strong relations with Greece and Cyprus as a result of not Absolutely trust the Turks
 
The specifications of the Turkish aircraft are lower than other aircraft, and this is agreed upon by everyone
lets say other aircrafts are more matured due to their early first flight. otherwise Hurjet with full composite hull, fly by wire and able to carry f16 radar would be a beast
 
Meet the most Advanced next gen Jet Trainer and Close Air Support Aircraft


TAI HURJET


Length: 13,6 m
Wingspan: 9.5 m
Height: 5,1 m
Wing Area: 35 m2
Thrust Power: 17.700 lbf

Service Ceiling: 13.716 m
Climb: 39,000 fpm
Range: 2,222 km
Maximum Load: 2.721 kg
Maximum Speed: 1.4 Mach
Maximum Altitude: 45,000 ft
Sustained Turn : 5.5 g @ 15000 ft < 0.9 Mach
G-Limit: +8g/ -3g

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Radar : Aselsan MURAD GaN based AESA
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Aselsan TULGAR Helmet Mounted Display System
TULPAR supports the pilot during missions with high resolution color imagery projected onto the visor. Equipped with cutting edge optical design, it possesses high field of view and seethrough capability.
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Front body made of aluminum and composite parts
Digital fly-by-wire controls
Targeting Pods

Head-Up Display HUD
Helmet Mounted Indicator
Digital flight control computer
Full Authority Digital Controlled Flight System
Advanced Human Machine Interface (Minimum Familiarization Time for F-35 and KAAN)
Intra & Inter Data Link
Night Vision Compatible
Air Refueling
Envelope Protection
Embedded Tactical Training and Live Virtual Constructive Training Systems
Apu for Autonomous Operations


ASELSAN has capability to equip HURJET with ASELPOD Targeting Pod , advanced self-protection capabilities , radar warning receiver for special export models


Advanced Weapons
25 km BOZDOGAN and 100+ km GOKDOGAN Air to Air Missiles
110 km TOLUN-IIR and 100+ km KUZGUN-SS guided Munitions
180+ km KUZGUN-TJ and 150+ km CAKIR Cruise Missiles

Cockpit
Multifunctional Integrated Modular Display
AMLCD widescreen

It is an intelligent multifunctional unit with touch feature, where the pilot can watch sensor videos, see digital maps and tactical symbologies, and manage the system.
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Turkiye’s Head of Defence Industry Presidency
"We have been working on making changes in the design of Hürjet to operate on naval assets. We carried out several designs and made simulations. It has been seen that the design of its current form can evolve in this direction. The studies are also ongoing; the aim is to evolve Hürjet into a shipborne aircraft to operate it from TCG ANADOLU”
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I wonder why the JF-17 is listed as Chinese? Shouldn't it be the FC-1 instead? If the JF-17 was the proposed aircraft (and it was), it should be credited as Pakistani despite it essentially being the FC-1 assembled/produced in Pakistan by Pakistanis, don't you think? I just find that a bit dissing at Pakistan. If they don't want to give Pakistan credit or don't consider it a full Pakistani product or there is some potential patent liability, then I would think it should be accurately labelled as the FC-1 if they want to list it as Chinese.

In the Malaysian tender, the Turkish plane was the cheapest, but due to the fact that the plane was not actually in service and was not issued, it was rejected. The Korean plane was priced at 50 million dollars. The Turkish plane was sold at a price of 35 million dollars. The problem remains at specific points.

That's too bad because that is a huge savings between the Hurjet & the FA-50. Not only that, but the $50 million for the FA-50 seems really high for a trainer/LCA of that caliber. Heck, we paid roughly the same for the MiG-29M and that's a full-fledged combat fighter with a significant weapons capability and has a substantial history. Heck it's double the price.

Egypt procured the MiG-29M/M2 multi-role fighters in April 2015. The contract was valued at $2 billion, and it included the purchase of 46 of these advanced aircraft1. Each MiG-29M/M2 is estimated to cost between $24.5 million and $27 million2. These fighters enhance Egypt’s air capabilities and contribute to their defense readiness.

Ridiculous. Makes the FA-50 over-priced IMO and also makes the Hurjet that much more appealing. I bet the latter gets many export contracts despite the Malaysian reasoning because of the quality, price & previous Turkish product record such as the main example, the TB-2 Bayraktar. The export success of that platform will propel Turkish products like they've never seen before. They've been on the right track for 40+ years which is easy to see why everyone uses them as the standard to compare & follow.

export of the LCA Mk1A aircraft, which is the highest performance, most equipped, and highest-performance aircraft, the Indian version with a 20,200-pound engine, and the Korean and Turkish versions with a 17,700-pound engine.

That was my personal choice for the EAF tender. Too bad they couldn't work something out but it's understandable why it didn't, from both sides of the bargaining table, India and Egypt.

In general, the Turks see Egypt as a large market, and we are personally against any cooperation with the Turks because it will develop their industrial ability,

LOL! At least we/you are being honest. 😂 I think that's a bit of an exaggeration TBH, but your overall point is valid, just not to that extreme lol.

Turkey remains a regional competitor and a regional enemy on many issues due to their investment and expansionist ideas, and Egypt still maintains strong relations with Greece and Cyprus as a result of not Absolutely trust the Turks

I don't know about "still an enemy" there, Sami Pasha. I would describe it as "preliminary mistrusting apprehension" lol. "Enemy" is too harsh IMO, bro.

on many issues due to their investment and expansionist ideas, and Egypt still maintains strong relations with Greece and Cyprus as a result of not Absolutely trust the Turks

Yeah, positive relations don't happen overnight that's true. I think in time Türkiye will make it a point that its regional interests are in no way directed at harming Egypt, especially if Sisi attempts to broker a state of non-belligerence between Greece & Türkiye. Something I think should be a must for him. Not only for the cause itself, but for Sisi's status and legacy. If he pulls off anything remotely close to that, it would be a major achievement and think of the benefits it would yield in Europe & NATO, the ME in general and especially in the Mediterranean Sea.


Looks good. What is that? Whatever it is, it's in a really precarious spot...looks like it's centered exactly at the pilot's bunghole. :eek:
 

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