The Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict

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France and Armenia have signed arms contracts worth €278.5 million in 2023 and 2024, French MoD report to parliament reveals

not in this report, but we know from official & media reports Armenia has acquired:
–50 Bastion cariers
–3 GM200 radars
–36 CAESAR howitzers

what has been discussed (not finalized?):
–Mistral and/or Crotale short-range air defence
–SAMP/T medium-range air defense

Source
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Eşbah said:
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I am not convinced that India has the IP rights to sell Su30MKI, especially not new builds. Maybe this is for 2nd hand ones. Either way, JF17C's equipped with PL15E's outclass the Su30MKI as far as airspace control goes.

The JF17Cs for Azerbaijan have additional Turkish weapons and systems also integrated on top of the basic Block III variant functionality, so they are probably the "beasty" variant of JF17C's.
 
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Eşbah said:
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Armenian minister of defence refuted this.

I think @Deino also said it, that India would require Russian approval for export of Su-30 to other countries, which was always going to be very unlikely.
 
Ali_Baba said:
The JF17Cs for Azerbaijan have additional Turkish weapons and systems also integrated
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We don’t really know this, because there is no real source. It seems to originate from some blog. In my own opinion this do not sound very plausible for a number of reasons.
 
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Qaraca said:
The analysis of this war has always been very surface level, nothing new. On one side you have Armenians who could hardly even admit that they lost fair and square, and people on their side influenced by those myths. On other side you have the UAV crowd. And this is the result.
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I don't know who this Tom Cooper who wrote analysis is,but I find it very interesting and to the point.
 
Foinikas said:
I don't know who this Tom Cooper who wrote analysis is,but I find it very interesting and to the point.
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He mentions Armenian counter-attack in Fuzuli, something ignored by most people (or they probably don’t know it). Pashinyan even talked about it on a Russian tv channel on night of 7 October, claiming that the counter-attack was going to change the tide of the war. Armenia threw a large force for that counter-attack.

This video (dated 8 October) shows captured Armenians tanks after that failed counter attack.

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Qaraca said:
He mentions Armenian counter-attack in Fuzuli, something ignored by most people (or they probably don’t know it). Pashinyan even talked about it on a Russian tv channel on night of 7 October, claiming that the counter-attack was going to change the tide of the war. Armenia threw a large force for that counter-attack.

This video (dated 8 October) shows captured Armenians tanks after that failed counter attack.

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Still the texts I posted are a very solid explanation of why Armenians failed. They were stuck in a 2000s war mentality,while warfare changed. Doctrines changed.
 
Foinikas said:
Still the texts I posted are a very solid explanation of why Armenians failed. They were stuck in a 2000s war mentality,while warfare changed. Doctrines changed.
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I’m not disagreeing. I noticed his mention of the counter attack on 7-8 october, this is not something most people even seem to know.
 
Qaraca said:
I’m not disagreeing. I noticed his mention of the counter attack on 7-8 october, this is not something most people even seem to know.
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Why did you delete the SPIKE NLOS footage? I didn't get to see it :S
 
Foinikas said:
Why did you delete the SPIKE NLOS footage? I didn't get to see it :S
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I can post it again. I believe it’s from Fuzuli. Not Nlos but ER/LR.

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Qaraca said:
I can post it again. I believe it’s from Fuzuli. Not Nlos but ER/LR.

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The Spike ER/LR must have done a lot of work during the 2020 war,huh. And all the while,Armos excelled at using ATGMs from fixed positions,but the battlefield changed. Just like Russians were against top-down attack ATs and couldn't advance without heavy losses.
 
Foinikas said:
The Spike ER/LR must have done a lot of work during the 2020 war,huh. And all the while,Armos excelled at using ATGMs from fixed positions,but the battlefield changed. Just like Russians were against top-down attack ATs and couldn't advance without heavy losses.
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Azerbaijan used all 3 versions. Nlos from helicopters, and ER/LR on ground (both vehicle based and dismounted).

Not only against vehicles but even targets like fortifications, like in this example.

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