The Evolution of PAF's JF-17 Thunder through OCU [Operational Capability Upgrade] - News, Updates, Possibilities & Discussions.

Sweden just officially inducted their first Gripen E. I was wondering if PAC takes the same approach as Sweden did with its Gripen E, with newer JF-17 blocks having larger airframes to increase range and carrying heavy payload. All in all the newer blocks will be beefier than the older ones while also having indigenized systems and sub-systems such as avionics, ECM, integrated IRST etc. Of course this will require a more powerful engine.

Below is a Gripen E carrying four RBS-15 Anti-Ship Missiles. It has 10 hardpoints able to carry up to nine air-to-air missiles or 16 SDBs. (Source: TWZ)

So in this context, if the current JF-17s can carry two CM-400 AKG (as we have seen in the recent combat footage), then the newest "beefier" models can also carry up to 4 missiles.
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Knowing the Swedes, and their pedigree on pioneering war fighting concepts for their airforce, you can be assured that the Gripen-E will be a beast of a plane.

I am personally glad that India did not get onto the Gripen bandwagon, and stuck with Tejas as their "sole" lighter fighter.
 
Knowing the Swedes, and their pedigree on pioneering war fighting concepts for their airforce, you can be assured that the Gripen-E will be a beast of a plane.

I am personally glad that India did not get onto the Gripen bandwagon, and stuck with Tejas as their "sole" lighter fighter.
and i am glad they are going for more Rafale, as it is a good fighter but not build with Gripen E/F philosophy and we can handle it very well
 
Yes, Dubai air show is tomorrow I think, I expect there will be a lot of interest in JF-17 and J-10.

Wonder if Tejas will turn up....
 
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The PL-15 missile is seen as a cornerstone of China’s growing ability to contest air superiority. Photo: Handout


Almost a decade has passed since the People’s Liberation Army pulled the trigger on President Xi Jinping’s plans for a massive overhaul of the world’s biggest military. In the eighth of a series on Chinese weapons systems, we look at the country’s advanced air-to-air missile.

It was not until the combat debut of the PL-15E during a skirmish between Pakistan and India last week that the capabilities of the Chinese-made air-to-air missile were truly put to the test – after years of speculation by observers abroad.

For decades, Chinese-made air-to-air missiles were believed to be imitations of Western designs. But the recent deployment of the PL-15E by the Pakistan Air Force serves as a fresh reminder that the strengths of China’s air-to-air missile systems – alongside a growing fleet of advanced fighter aircraft – can no longer be ignored.

Imagery of a Pakistan Aeronautical Complex/Chengdu JF-17 Block III, armed with four PL-15 BVR missiles, appeared in an official PAF video on air force readiness that was published on the service's YouTube channel on 29 April.

While Pakistan received its first batch of PL-15 missiles in 2021, according to Janes data, the new video provides official evidence that the missile has been integrated with the JF-17 Block III. Janes previously reported that the Block III variant entered the PAF service in 2023.

In the same video, the PAF also showed a J-10C in a camouflage colour scheme of green-grey, equipped with PL-15 missiles in dual-launch wing hardpoints. Earlier, Janes had reported that J-10C aircraft in this colour scheme are used in the maritime strike role.

Missile capabilities​

Developed by the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC), the PL-15 has been in Chinese military service since 2016. Designed as an enhanced version of the earlier PL-12 BVRAAM, the PL-15 is equipped with an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar system and is capable of a speed of Mach 4. Janes estimates that the PL-15 has a maximum range of 300 km. In contrast, the earlier PL-12 (SD-10/10A) missile, which Pakistan also possesses, has an estimated maximum range of 70–100 km.

In the PAF video, the JF-17 Block III aircraft featured the serial number 22-311 and was also equipped with wingtip-mounted PL-10 short-range imaging infrared (IIR)-guided AAMs. The aircraft lacked a squadron insignia."
 
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Yes, Dubai air show is tomorrow I think, I expect there will be a lot of interest in JF-17 and J-10.

Wonder if Tejas will turn up....
You know I have always been a fan of the jf 17 it shows through partnerships you can star to become independent and have the know how to build new projects on your own it’s the same that turkey and a couple of other countries on the Middle East that have acquired companies to start homegrown.

I’m wondering if they will show a mock up of the jf 17 block 4 or pfx I’m really curious if they will be able to incorporate internal weapons bay to start becoming more stealth like
 
You know I have always been a fan of the jf 17 it shows through partnerships you can star to become independent and have the know how to build new projects on your own it’s the same that turkey and a couple of other countries on the Middle East that have acquired companies to start homegrown.

I’m wondering if they will show a mock up of the jf 17 block 4 or pfx I’m really curious if they will be able to incorporate internal weapons bay to start becoming more stealth like

In the interim, Pakistan should significantly ramp up production of the JF-17 Block III fighter jet to meet growing demand both domestically and abroad. The Block III’s advanced avionics, AESA radar, and multirole capabilities make it a highly attractive 4.5-generation platform for countries seeking cost effective airpower modernization. Accelerated production not only strengthens Pakistan’s own air defense readiness but also enhances its position in the global defense export market, especially as interest from foreign buyers continues to rise.
 
In the interim, Pakistan should significantly ramp up production of the JF-17 Block III fighter jet to meet growing demand both domestically and abroad. The Block III’s advanced avionics, AESA radar, and multirole capabilities make it a highly attractive 4.5-generation platform for countries seeking cost effective airpower modernization. Accelerated production not only strengthens Pakistan’s own air defense readiness but also enhances its position in the global defense export market, especially as interest from foreign buyers continues to rise.
Like I said jf 17 is a great cost effective aircraft and stands on par to quite a few aircraft but as we all know if you don’t start on the future you get left behind quick I definitely would like to see Pakistan and other Muslim countries collaborate and become independent of east and west otherwise they stay ahead while we stay behind
 
Like I said jf 17 is a great cost effective aircraft and stands on par to quite a few aircraft but as we all know if you don’t start on the future you get left behind quick I definitely would like to see Pakistan and other Muslim countries collaborate and become independent of east and west otherwise they stay ahead while we stay behind

Kaan and JF-17 block 4/PFX-ALPHA and whatever else in the pipeline.
 
Sweden just officially inducted their first Gripen E. I was wondering if PAC takes the same approach as Sweden did with its Gripen E, with newer JF-17 blocks having larger airframes to increase range and carrying heavy payload. All in all the newer blocks will be beefier than the older ones while also having indigenized systems and sub-systems such as avionics, ECM, integrated IRST etc. Of course this will require a more powerful engine.

Below is a Gripen E carrying four RBS-15 Anti-Ship Missiles. It has 10 hardpoints able to carry up to nine air-to-air missiles or 16 SDBs. (Source: TWZ)

So in this context, if the current JF-17s can carry two CM-400 AKG (as we have seen in the recent combat footage), then the newest "beefier" models can also carry up to 4 missiles.
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Delta winged aircraft has more wing area hence greater load capacity, but also due to more drag, burns more fuel too. that's why I don't think with current air-frame/wing area, JF-17's load carrying capacity can be increased
 

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