The possible ways of action of the Egyptian army in an initiated war against Israel

[Admiral General Aladin]

It's not that he doesn't understand it, he doesn't want to understand it. There's a big difference between the two because he thinks this thread is about a competition between Egypt & Pakistan lol. It has nothing to do with Pakistan whatsoever.

Just look at his first post in this thread. He jumped in here like a bull in a china shop because all he saw was my comment about the "usefulness of F-16s without AMRAAMs". He didn't even bother reading and understanding the analogy I was making, and if they would consider an aircraft without AMRAAMs to be useless or if it still has a lot of usefulness. That was the point I was making with regards to any comparison between Pakistan and Egypt, not whose dick is bigger! lool.

It's just insecurity, that's all. Many people are guilty of that. Once you get past that, then you can have constructive dialogue. So I wouldn't waste any more time with this guy ya Sami unless you wish to do so. It's up to you, but you're dealing with misguided neurosis, so it's an exercise in futility, my friend.

lol.what usefulness your F-16 has without amraam??you plan to send F-16 to bombing mission to strike enemy formation.but how F-16's will protect themselves from enemy aam. Oh don’t tell me how useful is your aim-7 is with it’s maximum 70km range.but the problem is Israel will shoot your planes out of 100 km distance.you should'nt talk about insecurity.your country has nothing to be proud of.

 

[GoMig-21]

I do not understand what you are talking about regarding Egypt getting 18 billion dollars. There is confusion in the matter or a difference in the information. Egypt.

No, not you. The other fella @AZADPAKISTAN2009 was saying Egypt gets between $10 & $18 billion in AID money a year, so I asked him to give a source that proves that because it's not true.

 

[GoMig-21]

lol.what usefulness your F-16 has without amraam??you plan to send F-16 to bombing mission to strike enemy formation.but how F-16's will protect themselves from enemy aam. Oh don’t tell me how useful is your aim-7 is with it’s maximum 70km range.but the problem is Israel will shoot your planes out of 100 km distance.you should'nt talk about insecurity.your country has nothing to be proud of.

Ok, man.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

No, not you. The other fella @AZADPAKISTAN2009 was saying Egypt gets between $10 & $18 billion in AID money a year, so I asked him to give a source that proves that because it's not true.

GoMig-21

Reference

U.S. cuts military aid to Egypt, sends money instead to Taiwan | U.S. Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut

The Biden administration this week told Congress that it intends to withhold $85 million designated for U.S. security assistance to Egypt this year,...

www.murphy.senate.gov

1978-Present
$50 Billion Military Aid
$30 Billion Other Aid Civilian Projects

->Almost 1.5 Billion per year

Recent News
Annual Aid $1.3 Billion , facing some cuts recently but have received it prior to Biden's arrival





Other Avenue for Aid / Favors

• Loans from World Bank approvals
• IMF loans 4-5 Billion at a time (March 2024 https://halifax.citynews.ca/2024/03...-sharply-against-dollar-hikes-interest-rates/)

Getting Loans is easier , of course with USA approval




It seems Egypt's economy is being , pushed in same direction as how Pakistan's economy was made dependent on IMF loans


Based on this new evidence I doubt that Egypt will do much considering how bad their economy is currently, massive inflation risk

No wonder Israel is running around the Rafa area unchecked ....

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

While the economy is one aspect but Egypt does has a strict , concept of their level of Tolerance , which is that little zone between Rafa and Egypt's Land
The border Area

They are also keen to not have mass migration into Egypt because logically the people of Palestine should remain in Palestine , which is recognized state by many countries of world

 

[GoMig-21]

1978-Present
$50 Billion Military Aid
$30 Billion Other Aid Civilian Projects

->Almost 1.5 Billion per year

Yep, that's been established but it's actually currently at $1.2 billion per year is more accurate.

Other Avenue for Aid / Favors

• Loans from World Bank approvals
• IMF loans 4-5 Billion at a time (March 2024 https://halifax.citynews.ca/2024/03...-sharply-against-dollar-hikes-interest-rates/)

Loans are not "Aid" or "Favors". Either way, let's assume the $4.5 billion is in the form of "Aid" or Favors which it's not since it has to be paid back, that's not aid but a loan but we'll go with it.
$1.3 + $4.5 is $5.8. Still a far cry from $10 - $18 billion but let's keep going.

Getting Loans is easier , of course with USA approval

Ok, that $50 billion is so far up to date the total moneys borrowed from the IMF/World Bank which includes the $4.5 mentioned before. So that's the total that Egypt has borrowed since 2013 not a yearly "Aid" package. Many countries borrow from the International Monetary Fund or World Bank for many reasons. Those who don't are borrowing from other means or countries such as the US which has borrowed trillions from China. Are we busting the US' balls for getting "Aid" from China? I don't think so and the US' deficit is $35 TRILLION! lol Let's keep going.

It seems Egypt's economy is being , pushed in same direction as how Pakistan's economy was made dependent on IMF loans

So what you're saying is borrowing money from the IMF is considered "Aid"? Fine I said I would go with that so what are we up to for a yearly number, $5.8 billion, yes? Still have no idea how you came up with $10-$18 billion.

Egypt is focused on 10-18 Billions that it gets to fix up it's infrastructure , it has no interest in Palestine.

Since yearly military aid is $1.3 + $4.5 = $5.8 per year and the $80 billion in "military AID" money was the total since 1978 and the $50 billion in IMF loans is the total borrowed from 2013 to now, it still doesn't add up to your claimed $10-$18 billion per year, my friend.

Anyway, let's hope this damn genocide ends once and for all so the Palestinians can pick up the pieces and a road map to some autonomous state comes about from all the worldly outrage that has been mustered up from all the zionist criminal campaign.

 

[Sami_1]

well.that we chat source never mentioned the country's name.how do you come to conclusion that Egypt was the buyer?china showed HJ-12 in lots of defence exhibition in various countries.that doesn’t mean all of those countries bought it.now tell me does Egypt ever showed hj-12 in any of her parades?answer is no.cause they don’t have it.maybe Egypt will buy it.but currently they don’t have it.

I explained in Egypt that Egypt is an agent. Previously, you denied the presence of specific missile systems, and when we highlighted the presence of other systems in large numbers, the denial of a single Chinese missile, i.e. from the stage of total denial to the stage of partial denial without acknowledging that your point of view is false and you are biased. So, you think that in this case, we will care about any opinions of yours that are not neutral or not serious, except that they are only hostile or deal with from a hostile perspective. Acknowledging the truth is a virtue, so instead of us acknowledging that you are wrong, you remain in the same sterile way of thinking. So, the matter is over at this stage, as we do not care about changing your thinking and your irregular behavior.

 

[S.Y.A]

The war in Gaza against Egypt. What is the value of the people of Gaza in the first place?

wth.

blind nationalistic pharoah worshippers.

 

[Sami_1]

wth.

blind nationalistic pharoah worshippers.

Instead of this dirty and insulting style, do not ask anyone to do your part and criticize him. You accuse us of infidels because we do not follow the whims of people like you. We manage our battles alone. You want to say that the only ones capable of fighting the Jews are the Egyptians and the only Muslims are the Egyptians. You are not Muslims, you are not men, you are not honorable, and you are not responsible for Palestine. The most you do is insult the Egyptians, accuse them of infidels, and distort them. This is a mentality that should not be respected or taken into consideration. Are you fighting countries because of the Egyptians? This is a new idea. Tomorrow, when India achieves a new defeat for you, you will insult the Egyptian Pharaohs. Shame on you. You have reduced the world to the Egyptians, and since they do not implement your dreams and your missing manhood, then a slave to Pharaoh says, “I do not understand that you are arrogant and insulting us, and you are not of interest to us, and we do not see anything of value in you at all, whether opinions, thought, or mentality. Let your words go to their natural place, the toilet.” It is a waste to remove it with water.

 

[S.Y.A]

Instead of this dirty and insulting style, do not ask anyone to do your part and criticize him. You accuse us of infidels because we do not follow the whims of people like you. We manage our battles alone. You want to say that the only ones capable of fighting the Jews are the Egyptians and the only Muslims are the Egyptians. You are not Muslims, you are not men, you are not honorable, and you are not responsible for Palestine. The most you do is insult the Egyptians, accuse them of infidels, and distort them. This is a mentality that should not be respected or taken into consideration. Are you fighting countries because of the Egyptians? This is a new idea. Tomorrow, when India achieves a new defeat for you, you will insult the Egyptian Pharaohs. Shame on you. You have reduced the world to the Egyptians, and since they do not implement your dreams and your missing manhood, then a slave to Pharaoh says, “I do not understand that you are arrogant and insulting us, and you are not of interest to us, and we do not see anything of value in you at all, whether opinions, thought, or mentality. Let your words go to their natural place, the toilet.” It is a waste to remove it with water.

didnt your grand pharoah lead a parade for dead pharoahs nearly worshipping them? lol!

it is not about my whims, it is about following ocmmands of ALlah and His Prophet Muhammad SAW. anyhow keep crying.

 

[Ghostkiller]

didnt your grand pharoah lead a parade for dead pharoahs nearly worshipping them? lol!

it is not about my whims, it is about following ocmmands of ALlah and His Prophet Muhammad SAW. anyhow keep crying.

We didn't worshipping them, we are just preserving them and our history. Tell me where we are worshipping them and also tell me it is against the command of our Prophet?

 

[GoMig-21]

We didn't worshipping them, we are just preserving them and our history. Tell me where we are worshipping them and also tell me it is against the command of our Prophet?

This guy is a Sunni-hating either Suffi or Shia extremist, simple as that. That should tell you everything you need to know. No substance related to the topic or anything just the immediately recognizable sectarian hatred and insulting attacks.

I've seen several of his past posts & discussions from years ago and they're all filled with that sectarian vitriol. This is why he throws those hadiths and the pharaoh-worshipping bullshit looool.

Imagine if you or I said "you dance-whirling or shrine and fire-worshippers in Pakistan" or something equally absurd as "pharaoh worshippers" how well that would go? lolzo.

Just to even presume a Muslim can question another Muslim's Iman by insulting him and calling him a 'pharaoh worshipper' tells you the level of misguidance happening here. It's of the lowest form.

 

[Sami_1]

wth.

blind nationalistic pharoah worshippers.

Some people's responses show the extent of their hatred and ignorance. They think out of their backsides and claim to be religious. They do not hesitate to accuse others of being infidels in order to highlight the thoughts they produce that are related to their bottom.

 

[S.Y.A]

This guy is a Sunni-hating either Suffi or Shia extremist, simple as that. That should tell you everything you need to know. No substance related to the topic or anything just the immediately recognizable sectarian hatred and insulting attacks.

nope, neither shia nor sufi. quite the opposite. did i target any sect here? dont you guys still flaunt oyur connections to pharoahs while failing to do anything for fellow muslims? lol.

 

[S.Y.A]

Imagine if you or I said "you dance-whirling or shrine and fire-worshippers in Pakistan" or something equally absurd as "pharaoh worshippers" how well that would go? lolzo.

go ahead. no worries! people who actually do those things will be angry, i am all for calling them out. lol