Trump Announces Major Pakistan Trade Deal, Vows Joint Oil Development/Exploration

[arjunk]

How's that our concern

When India is begging for ToT of F-35, western help to counter China, and sending millions Indians to the US and rest of west every year...??

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[vasanthm]

When India is begging for ToT of F-35, western help to counter China, and sending millions Indians to the US and rest of west every year...??

Your access to these privileges is conditional upon your utility to the west.

So? You think we’d sign up for something that doesn’t serve our interests?

 

[Distant_Observer]

How's that our concern

Did a bit of chatgpt.

In FY 2023–24, India’s software and IT services exports reached $200 billion.

If we strip away outsourcing, remittances, and IT job-related exports, India’s remaining IT exports would be $5.5 billion worth of software products in FY 2023–24.

The US accounts for nearly 70% of India’s $200 billion software services exports in FY24.

That’s roughly $143.6 billion from IT services, BPO, and software development flowing directly from US clients.

I think its time Pakistan got a fair share of this trade.

 

[vasanthm]

Did a bit of chatgpt.

In FY 2023–24, India’s software and IT services exports reached $200 billion.

If we strip away outsourcing, remittances, and IT job-related exports, India’s remaining IT exports would be $5.5 billion worth of software products in FY 2023–24.

The US accounts for nearly 70% of India’s $205.2 billion software services exports in FY24.

That’s roughly $143.6 billion from IT services, BPO, and software development flowing directly from US clients

Therefore if US pulled the plug on the H1B Indian factory, Indian economy would collapse.

I think its time Pakistan got a fair share of this trade.

Kiddo, we didn’t hit $200 billion in IT services exports by snake charming our way through global markets. We know when and what to do.

Meanwhile, you’re dreaming that Abdul from Lahore whose if else logic is still "if bijli aayi, then wifi on" is going to get Pakistan into Silicon Valley. At best, he’ll end up making silicone Tupperware, not software unicorns.

 

[mythbuster]

Kiddo, we didn’t hit $200 billion in IT services exports by snake charming our way through global markets. We know when and what to do.

Meanwhile, you’re dreaming that Abdul from Lahore whose if else logic is still "if bijli aayi, then wifi on" is going to get Pakistan into Silicon Valley. At best, he’ll end up making silicone Tupperware, not software unicorns.

You had similar level of confidence in your rafale ...Abdul from Lahore may give you another surprise.... don't be conceited.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Kiddo, we didn’t hit $200 billion in IT services exports by snake charming our way through global markets. We know when and what to do.

Meanwhile, you’re dreaming that Abdul from Lahore whose if else logic is still "if bijli aayi, then wifi on" is going to get Pakistan into Silicon Valley. At best, he’ll end up making silicone Tupperware, not software unicorns.

India IT exports are low tech on par with Pakistan, any other 3rd world country can replace it with USA support. You had 30 years of USA blessing for your low tech IT industry to get here, remained low tech and now will be replaced by AI. Your IT companies had billions to invest in R&D but they were happy to remain IT coolies of Americans.

If Modi doesn't surrender then Trump next target will be IT exports.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

I’m not sure anyone’s more obsessed about Indians than you. No matter what the topic is… take this thread, for example, it’s about the USA and Pakistan and yet somehow you’re bringing up Indians, who likely have no idea you’re even talking about them.

Its not about just Pakistan, USA trade deal in isolation. We are not kids here who don't understand what Trump is doing.

 

[vasanthm]

India IT exports are low tech on par with Pakistan, any other 3rd world country can replace it with USA support. You had 30 years of USA blessing for your low tech IT industry to get here, remained low tech and now will be replaced by AI. Your IT companies had billions to invest in R&D but they were happy to remain IT coolies of Americans.

If Modi doesn't surrender then Trump next target will be IT exports.

Dreams are free, execution requires electricity.

 

[Cash gk]

I’m not sure anyone’s more obsessed about Indians than you. No matter what the topic is… take this thread, for example, it’s about the USA and Pakistan and yet somehow you’re bringing up Indians, who likely have no idea you’re even talking about them.

"You mean 'self-proclaimed chupa power'? 'for your information Chupa' means the same in Spanish and Punjabi."

 

[Cash gk]

When a CEO gets frustrated over his top executive he/she usually gets fired....

The United States, particularly under Trump’s leadership, has pushed a highly transactional and aggressive trade policy. The core of this policy is simple: “If we’re buying $20 billion worth of goods from your country, then you must buy $20 billion worth from us.” On paper, it sounds fair. In reality, it’s impractical and often harmful — especially for countries that rely on trade surpluses to maintain economic growth.

Take China, for example. It exports over $300 billion worth of goods to the U.S. annually. But what can the U.S. offer in return at that scale? The typical answer is oil and gas — but that’s not a viable solution. American oil is expensive, and countries like China can access far cheaper energy from Russia and Iran. Forcing China to buy costly American resources would damage its economy and reduce competitiveness. It’s an unrealistic expectation.

India is facing a similar dilemma. It’s already importing discounted oil from Russia while also purchasing weapons from the United States. This dual approach has allowed India to balance cost and security but now, under Trump’s vision, they’re being pressured to go all-in on American goods. That would impose a huge economic burden. U.S. products, especially energy and defense equipment, are significantly more expensive and not always ideal for large, developing economies like India’s.

Even when it comes to Indian exports — such as pharmaceuticals, software, or textiles the financial return does not match what America is demanding. The trade is not balanced in real value. Trump’s approach is to strong-arm countries into one-sided deals that prioritize American interests, regardless of what’s economically logical or sustainable for the other side.

India’s troubles don’t end there. It has also suffered a major setback in regional influence due to repeated military embarrassments most notably in 2019 and again in 2025 when its fighter jets were destroyed by Pakistan. These incidents didn’t just dent India’s military hardware; they undermined the perception of its military power, which is essential for diplomatic credibility and economic confidence. Military strength gives a nation strategic cover — and once that image cracks, so does its bargaining power on the global stage.

Recognizing this vulnerability, global powers especially the U.S. have begun pressuring India more aggressively. With its image shaken, India is being pushed toward deeper strategic and economic commitments. In short, it’s being milked — treated not as a partner, but as a weakened player that must buy its way back into favor.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@Distant_Observer

I think its time Pakistan got a fair share of this trade.

Who has stopped you? It is not that the fact that Indians make billions of dollars from this industry was unknown to you guys. It is not that the success factors in this industry - large pool of educated engineers/programmers, reliable electricity, reliable connectivity, some upfront tax incentives at infancy stage were unknown to you.

What prevented you from doing all of this?

Regards

 

[vasanthm]

@Distant_Observer

I think its time Pakistan got a fair share of this trade.

Who has stopped you? It is not that the fact that Indians make billions of dollars from this industry was unknown to you guys. It is not that the success factors in this industry - large pool of educated engineers/programmers, reliable electricity, reliable connectivity, some upfront tax incentives at infancy stage were unknown to you.

What prevented you from doing all of this?

Regards

No no sirji, you don’t get it, Pakistan was this close to becoming a super duper IT power, but those cunning Indians in Silicon Valley used casteism to steal all the jobs and give them to their own kids.

It had nothing to do with things like electricity, connectivity, education, or planning. Total conspiracy. Otherwise, Abdul would’ve been running Google by now.

 

[Cash gk]

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[Cash gk]

No no sirji, you don’t get it, Pakistan was this close to becoming a super duper IT power, but those cunning Indians in Silicon Valley used casteism to steal all the jobs and give them to their own kids.

It had nothing to do with things like electricity, connectivity, education, or planning. Total conspiracy. Otherwise, Abdul would’ve been running Google by now.

If Pakistan isn’t a real threat, then what are you doing here? Just came to eat(chupa) mangoes? You flood discussion forums with your comments, trying so hard to prove you're a chuoaower yet you've been beaten twice. Once in 2019, and again in 2025. Facts speak louder than propaganda."

 

[vasanthm]

If Pakistan isn’t a real threat, then what are you doing here? Just came to eat(chupa) mangoes? You flood discussion forums with your comments, trying so hard to prove you're a chuoaower yet you've been beaten twice. Once in 2019, and again in 2025. Facts speak louder than propaganda."

I mean… I kinda enjoy it here. Indian forums don’t offer this level of entertainment.