Turkish Naval Programs

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TCG YILDIRIM​

 

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MILDEN class Submarine construction will start in 2025



Ministry of National Defense published its 2023 activity report

Within the scope of the MİLDEN Project, the construction of the Test Block is planned to start in 2024, and construction activities will start in 2025

Length : 80+ m
Displacement : 2.700 tons
Its powered by an air-independent propulsion system.

Milli Savunma Bakanlığı, 2023 yılı faaliyet raporunu yayınladı

İşte MSB 2023 Faaliyet raporundan öne çıkanlar.

gdh.digital

https://www.msb.gov.tr/Maliye/icerik/5018-sayili-kanun-kapsaminda-hazirlanan-bilgilendirme-ve-raporlar

 

[hyperman]

MILDEN class Submarine construction will start in 2025



Ministry of National Defense published its 2023 activity report

Within the scope of the MİLDEN Project, the construction of the Test Block is planned to start in 2024, and construction activities will start in 2025

Length : 80+ m
Displacement : 2.700 tons
Its powered by an air-independent propulsion system.

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Milli Savunma Bakanlığı, 2023 yılı faaliyet raporunu yayınladı

İşte MSB 2023 Faaliyet raporundan öne çıkanlar.

gdh.digital

https://www.msb.gov.tr/Maliye/icerik/5018-sayili-kanun-kapsaminda-hazirlanan-bilgilendirme-ve-raporlar

I really looking forward to this, even more so than the destroyer. lol

This will be a significant development of Turkey's development capabilities as well as strengthening naval operations.

 

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I really looking forward to this, even more so than the destroyer. lol

This will be a significant development of Turkey's development capabilities as well as strengthening naval operations.

It is a project that shows Turkiye's technological development
Turkiye enter elite club in Naval Industry

It is aimed to start the construction by making the first welding in 2025 and to complete the construction and test activities in 2031



Turkish Navy will have the strongest Submarine fleet in the region
( Italy , Greece , Egypt and Israel )
The Eastern Mediterranean borders countries in Europe, the Levant, and
North Africa. This means that the potential exists to be a major influence in multiple regions if enough power is projected in the Eastern Mediterranean



MILDEN class AIP Submarines will replace Type-209 class Submarines in 2030s

and 6 Type-214TN ( REIS ) class AIP Submarines enter service year by year until 2028

 

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National Air Defense System for Ships


MİDLAS VLS
CENK AESA Radar
AKREP fire control Radar
National IFF
National Data Link
National Fire Control System
ADVENT CMS
HİSAR RF SAM

HİSAR-D RF missile was fired from TCG İSTANBUL Frigate for the first time!

Only 4 in NATO ... Vertical Launching System

MK-41 VLS ... USA
SYLVER VLS ... France
GWS 35 VLS ... The UK
MIDLAS VLS ...Turkiye

 

[hyperman]

@MMM-E @Eşbah @Oublious @LegionnairE

Lets keep the Naval/submarine stuff here, I'm going to delete the naval stuff from the air defense thread, to keep it less cluttered.

 

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National Fast Attack Boat : STM MPAC


1 x 76 mm Gun
2x 12.7 mm Stabilized Machine Gun (EO)
Guided Missile Close Air Defense System (21 missiles )
8 x ATMACA anti-ship Missiles
3D Surveillance Radar/IFF
ECM and ESM Systems
Max. Speed: 40+ knots

Total of 10 MPAC will be produced

 

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National Fast Attack Boat : STM MPAC


1 x 76 mm Gun
2x 12.7 mm Stabilized Machine Gun (EO)
Guided Missile Close Air Defense System (21 missiles )
8 x ATMACA anti-ship Missiles
3D Surveillance Radar/IFF
ECM and ESM Systems
Max. Speed: 40+ knots

Total of 10 MPAC will be produced
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I'm starting to think that we should've bought Yonca-Onuk MRTP-45s

They used to build 65 knot capable hulls.

I wonder what Ekber Onuk is up to these days

 

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I'm starting to think that we should've bought Yonca-Onuk MRTP-45s

ONUK MRTP-45 is faster
but STM MPAC has better fire power and superior Sensors


ONUK-MRTP45
Length : 48 m
Displacement : 270 t
Max. Speed : 60 kts

1 x 57 or 76 mm Naval Gun
2x 25 mm Stabilized Guns
1 x Guided Missile Close Air Defense System (21 missiles )
4 x ATMACA anti-ship Missiles
3D Radar

STM MPAC
Length : 66.2 m
Displacement : 620 t
Max. Speed : 40+ kts

Combat Management System
3D Surveillance Radar/IFF
ESM System
ECM System
2x Fire Control Radar (EO Suit TV/IR/LRF)
E/O Director (EO Suit TV/IR/LRF)
Laser Warning System
1 x 76 mm Gun
2x 12.7 mm Stabilized Gun (EO)
1 x Guided Missile Close Air Defense System (21 missiles )
8 x ATMACA anti-ship Missiles
2 x RF/IR Chaff Decoy Launchers
2 x Navigation Radar (X-Band, combined 360° coverage picture)
LPI Radar
Integrated (Internal/External) Communication System
INMARSAT SATCOM
Ship Data Distribution System
Ship Local Area Network
Navigation Systems
WECDIS
WAIS

Also We should focus on USVs ....

Length : 15 m Displacement : 21 t Max. Speed : 35 kts Active Stabilization System KARETTA Anti-jam GNSS Obstacle Avoidance Sonar KIRLANGIC EO/IR Camera ANS510-D Inertial Navigation System AREAS 2NC ESM System AREAS 2NC ECM System 20 x KUZGUN Missiles 4 x Torpedoes

Cost effective and Deadly
10 MARLIN USVs can carry 200 KUZGUN Missiles and 40 ORKA Torpedos to attack enemy Naval fleet as Sharks


KUZGUN-KY/TJ Missile
Range : 40-180 km
Guidance : IIR

MARLIN unmanned surface vehicle had fired a KUZGUN missile for the first time.

Anti-submarine warfare capabilities.
Turkish Unmanned Surface Vessels fire Torpedoes for the first time

or We can arm USVs with 8 x CAKIR anti-ship Missiles with range of 150 km

10 USVs can fire 80 CAKIR anti-ship Missiles for swarm attack ...
even most modern European Destroyers armed with only 48 SAMs
Greek-Egyptian Frigates armed with 16 SAMs

 

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Whole combatant surface fleet need Hisar Ds, MPAC is new but lacking proper AD. we should arrange at least 2 tubes of HisarD(quad pack 8 missiles) for Mpac, Tuzla class and other manned small vessels. A UAV can attack MPAC from 20km away and vessel cant do anything, dont forget kiowas , apaches and other attackers which can fire 50km NLOS missiles, Hisar can defy all of them

 

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In a conflict
10 AKINCI UCAVs can stay in the air for 24 hours to protect Turkish Navy Warships including MPACs

10 AKINCI UCAVs can carry 60 GOKDOGAN air to air Missiles with range of 100+ km to hit enemy UCAVs and KIOWA Helicopters .... also to intercept anti-ship missiles in sea skimming mode

AKINCI UCAV will be equipped with MURAD AESA Radar and GOKDOGAN air to air Missiles

AKINCI UCAVs can create NO FLY ZONE near Turkish Warships to protect Turkish EEZ in the Eastern Mediterranean

 

[LegionnairE]

ONUK MRTP-45 is faster
but STM MPAC has better fire power and superior Sensors

Well obviously,

There's like 15 years between the designs.

I'm just saying that Onuk could deliver a faster hull

 

[LegionnairE]

Whole combatant surface fleet need Hisar Ds, MPAC is new but lacking proper AD. we should arrange at least 2 tubes of HisarD(quad pack 8 missiles) for Mpac, Tuzla class and other manned small vessels. A UAV can attack MPAC from 20km away and vessel cant do anything, dont forget kiowas , apaches and other attackers which can fire 50km NLOS missiles, Hisar can defy all of them

Hücumbot mantığında hava savunma yok, onu da koyduğun zaman korvet olur zaten.


Türk tipi hücumbotun RAM taşıması bile bizim için büyük bir yenilik.

Biz gayet iyi niyetli bir şekilde; o da olsun, bu da olsun diyoruz ama bu sistemleri kullanacak adam lazım. Hücumbot, düşük maliyetli, az sayıda personeli riske atarak, büyük firkateynlerle çatışabilecek gemi tipidir. Bir İstanbul sınıfı firkateyn fiyatına 4 tane kılıç sınıfı hücumbot alırsın veya 3 tane Yunan Roussen sınıfı hücumbot alırsın ama hiçbir firkateynin 3 veya 4 hücumbota karşı şansı yoktur.

Bunlar bizim asıl vurucu gücümüz ama çok ihmal ediyoruz. Bir an önce Türk Tipi Hücumbotun üretime geçmesi lazım.

 

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Bir İstanbul sınıfı firkateyn fiyatına 4 tane kılıç sınıfı hücumbot alırsın veya 3 tane Yunan Roussen sınıfı hücumbot alırsın ama hiçbir firkateynin 3 veya 4 hücumbota karşı şansı yoktur.

Eger senin begendigin Hücumbot ise ISTANBUL Fırkateynin şanşı var
ONUK MRTP-45 armed with 4 x ATMACA anti-ship Missiles
4 x ONUK MRTP-45 carry total of 16 ATMACA anti-ship Missiles

while ISTANBUL Frigate armed with 16 ATMACA anti-ship Missiles
and 64 HISAR-D SAMs with quad pack capability .... also GOKDENIZ 35mm CIWS

even modernized MEKO-200TN Frigate armed with 16 ATMACA anti-ship Missiles
and 64 ESSM SAMs with quad pack capability .... also GOKDENIZ 35mm CIWS


1 ISTANBUL Fırkateyni 4 ONUK MRTP-45 ile baş edebililr...
O yüzde 8 adet ATMACA füzesi taşıyan STM MPAC secimi daha makul olur

4 adet de MARLIN USV nin aynı anda ateşleyecegi 80 KUZGUN Füzesine karşı ,işte o zaman hiçbir Fırkateynin şansı olmaz

 

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Eger senin begendigin Hücumbot ise ISTANBUL Fırkateynin şanşı var
ONUK MRTP-45 armed with 4 x ATMACA anti-ship Missiles
4 x ONUK MRTP-45 carry total of 16 ATMACA anti-ship Missiles

while ISTANBUL Frigate armed with 16 ATMACA anti-ship Missiles
and 64 HISAR-D SAMs with quad pack capability .... also GOKDENIZ 35mm CIWS

even modernized MEKO-200TN Frigate armed with 16 ATMACA anti-ship Missiles
and 64 ESSM SAMs with quad pack capability .... also GOKDENIZ 35mm CIWS


1 ISTANBUL Fırkateyni 4 ONUK MRTP-45 ile baş edebililr...
O yüzde 8 adet ATMACA füzesi taşıyan STM MPAC secimi daha makul olur

4 adet de MARLIN USV nin aynı anda ateşleyecegi 80 KUZGUN Füzesine karşı ,işte o zaman hiçbir Fırkateynin şansı olmaz

MRTP 45 i üzerindeki 10 sene önce tasarlandığı silahlarla üretmekten bahsetmediğimi yukarıda açıkladım, sen kendine hakaret ettirmekten zevk alıyosun sanırım.