Türkiye unveils exclusive details of future TF-2000-class destroyer

[Afif]

btw: The 055 has the world's only digital array radar. It is the only fifth-generation radar, similar to the F22 of 2005, and is far superior to other radars with its four bands: X, S, C and L.

Reytheon's SPY-6 on DDG 125 says hello.

 

[FuturePAF]

TF-2000 Destroyer is 8.300 tons with 96 cells VLS to carry 160 SAMs + 16 antiship Missiles + 16 land attack cruise Missiles ..

also great defense capability with
21 x short range Air Defense Missiles with range of 11 km for Ship point defense
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1 x NAZAR LASER - EW System
Broadband state-of-the-art laser functional destruction capability against EO/IR guided missiles
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1 x GOKDENIZ 35mm CIWS with airburst munition
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Turkish SIPER Block-2 SAM with range of 150+ km
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range of 250+ km with booster
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450 km CAFRAD Multi-function/illumination/Fire control/Long range Radar complex

Active, Non-Rotating IFF Antenna Subsystem
• STANAG 4193 compliant Mode 1/2/3/C/S/5 interrogation
• 450 km range

Active Phased Array Multifunction Radar
• X-Band
• Volume and horizon search
• Air/surface target detection, tracking and classification
• Sea-skimming fast-small target detection and tracking
• Multiple target precise tracking
• 150 km range
• Track capacity >1000

Active Phased Array Illumination Radar
• X-Band
• Semi-active missile guidance
• 150 km range

Active Phased Array Long Range Search Radar
• S-Band
• Long Range volume search
• Air/surface target detection, tracking and classification
• 450 km range
• Track capacity >2000

superior technology
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Turkish TF-2000 Destroyer will be more powerful than Indian Visakhapatnam class Destroyer + Pakistani Type-054 Frigate combined

Any indication of the cost of a single destroyer? Plus the cost of fully equipping the ship?

 

[Zarvan]

I agree for frigates.
4 of these big ships is far than enough.
Better have 10 more medium frigates than 4 more of these cruiser like.

KAAN and ANKA 3 are on a very long and sharp road....

If Turkey wants to have just 4 of TF 2000 destroyers although I seriously believe 8 would be the minimum number. Still Turkey should come up with a Frigate design which has 32 VLS. 16 dedicated for Air Defense role and 16 for land attack cruise missiles plus 8 AntiShip missiles in traditional way.

 

[MH.Yang]

Reytheon's SPY-6 on DDG 125 says hello.

The SPY-6 is only an S-band radar and does not integrate X-band. It remains a fourth-generation radar.

 

[DDG-80]

Reytheon's SPY-6 on DDG 125 says hello.

DRDO developed LR-MFR on INS Anvesh

 

[DDG-80]

The Pakistani Type 054A/P frigates will be able to carry HQ-16FE missiles soon enough, with a slightly longer range then the Barak-8 missiles.

Other than the Antiship missiles, and the Capacity of the radar, they are nearly on parity; an Indian Destroyer and a Pakistani Frigate.

If the TF-2000 is 7000 tons and packs 96 VLS, it may be a better fit for the PN’s desire for 6 destroyers.

The Barak 8 has 2 good features, the missile is small, and the speed is variable depending on the distance to target location. It is smaller, less propellent and by design much quicker to reaction time to engage missiles like cruise missiles. You can have more, missiles per volume, and they are cheaper as well. The Barak 8 is a perfect missile for frigates to Destroyers. They don't know Barak 8 is the only SAM in the world with minimum interception range of 0.5km. All other SAMs of its class have minimum 1 to >1.5km MIR. The extremely efficient light weight DPRM design gives it QR caps with terminal homing speed reaching Mach 5 with 2nd pulse motor.

On the other hand, HQ-9/16 is very limited in engaging cruise missiles, which is why they are supplimented by smaller missiles in the Grumble family or in the case of PLAN, HQ-10. HQ-9/16 is a semi-active guided missile and neither has got a decent lateral acceleration, so against a modern inbound sea skimming AShM, they will be as good as nothing.

 

[Pingle]

Different classes of warships have different battlefield orientations.

For example, in the Chinese Navy, aircraft carriers have the primary air defence role and are responsible for seizing air control.

The 055 is responsible for anti-ballistic missile (ABM), anti-hypersonic missile (AHBM), and anti-satellite (ASAT) operations, and uses the YJ21(YJ21 is a hypersonic anti-ship missile. Full range Mach 6, end Mach 10. Range 1500km to 1800km) for its primary area denial mission, as well as taking on some of the mid-level air defence tasks. It is also the fleet's electronic hub and command core.

btw: The 055 has the world's only digital array radar. It is the only fifth-generation radar, similar to the F22 of 2005, and is far superior to other radars with its four bands: X, S, C and L.

The 052D is responsible for the main intermediate area air defence mission and performs part of the area denial mission using the YJ18.

The 054B/054AG is responsible for close air defence (HQ16EF with a range of 160km).The 054B carries out the main anti-submarine mission and the 054AG carries out part of the anti-submarine mission.The 054AG is also required to be responsible for other missions such as offshore island resupply and escort of merchant ships.

The world's best anti-ship missile:

YJ-21 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Type 055 / DDG-X [Area Defense Project]

www.globalsecurity.org

The primary reason why India does not build large warships in the 055 class is because India does not have a corresponding military requirement and India does not have a naval fleet of that size. The secondary reason is that India does not have the capability to build ships of this class.

Agree with most of your post but I respectfully don't agree with the point that India doesn't have a requirement for ship in the class of 055..... India has long 3 ocean coastlines Arabian sea in west, IOR in the south and bob in east with 1000s of islands and Andaman islands are actually 1000s of miles away from mainland..... in order to protect such large region with powerful navies lurking around we definitely have a requirement for powerful ships like 055.....

We lack building capacity for 055 class?? That's highly debatable..... when we can build aircraft carrier and nuclear submarines and vishakhapattanam warships I doubt we can't build a large destroyers.....

 

[Luciferdd]

The Barak 8 has 2 good features, the missile is small, and the speed is variable depending on the distance to target location. It is smaller, less propellent and by design much quicker to reaction time to engage missiles like cruise missiles. You can have more, missiles per volume, and they are cheaper as well. The Barak 8 is a perfect missile for frigates to Destroyers. They don't know Barak 8 is the only SAM in the world with minimum interception range of 0.5km. All other SAMs of its class have minimum 1 to >1.5km MIR. The extremely efficient light weight DPRM design gives it QR caps with terminal homing speed reaching Mach 5 with 2nd pulse motor.

On the other hand, HQ-9/16 is very limited in engaging cruise missiles, which is why they are supplimented by smaller missiles in the Grumble family or in the case of PLAN, HQ-10. HQ-9/16 is a semi-active guided missile and neither has got a decent lateral acceleration, so against a modern inbound sea skimming AShM, they will be as good as nothing.

HQ-9/16F both have a active-radar seeker,and the stealth target-drones they use for trarining are superior than any anti-ship missilese that india will have in the future 10 years.
JY-260：
Length: 4m
Wingspan: 1.6m
Takeoff weight: 190+ kg
Max level speed: 270m/s
Ceiling: 12000m
Min. Altitude: 20m (land variant), 5m (naval variant)
Endurance: 70 min
Remote control radius: 150km
Capable of swarm/formation flying: a formation of 16 drones flying at 30m apart can be controlled from a single console (?).
Payload capacity: 35kg
RCS:0.01㎡~3㎡(adjustable)
Payloads: EW suite, Luneburg lens, decoys, chaff, seeker simulators, etc.
Positioning system: Beidou and inertial.

 

[MMM-E]

Still Turkey should come up with a Frigate design which has 32 VLS. 16 dedicated for Air Defense role and 16 for land attack cruise missiles plus 8 AntiShip missiles in traditional way.

124 m AS-3600 Frigate

64 cells VLS for 128 x SAPAN and 32 SIPER SAMs .... ( 160 SAMs )
( total of 160 SAMs which are more firepower than 4x Indian Destroyers )

or

64 x SAPAN SAMs
32 x SIPER SAMs
21 x LEVENT SAMs
16 x GEZGIN land attack Cruise Missiles
8 x ATMACA anti-ship Missiles


official presentation

Any indication of the cost of a single destroyer? Plus the cost of fully equipping the ship?

$1+ billion USD for the Turkish Navy ( a single Destroyer )

 

[MMM-E]

The Barak 8 has 2 good features, the missile is small, and the speed is variable depending on the distance to target location. It is smaller, less propellent and by design much quicker to reaction time to engage missiles like cruise missiles. You can have more, missiles per volume, and they are cheaper as well. The Barak 8 is a perfect missile for frigates to Destroyers. They don't know Barak 8 is the only SAM in the world with minimum interception range of 0.5km. All other SAMs of its class have minimum 1 to >1.5km MIR. The extremely efficient light weight DPRM design gives it QR caps with terminal homing speed reaching Mach 5 with 2nd pulse motor.

TF-2000 Destroyer armed with 3 different Air Defense Missiles with range of 11 km , 40+ km and 150+ km for Ship point , local and wide area defence

Indian VISAKHAPATNAM class Destroyer = 32 BARAK-8 SAMs

Turkish TF-2000 class Destroyer = total of 181 SAMs
-- 128 HISAR-D Block2
-- 32 SIPER Block2
-- 21 LEVENT

11 km LEVENT SAM

40+ km HISAR-D ( SAPAN ) SAM

150+ km SIPER Block2 SAM


HISAR SAM can engage on close range - low altitude sea-skimming anti-ship Missiles

speed of mach 3.5 with 2nd pulse motor.

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[Pingle]

TF-2000 Destroyer armed with 3 different Air Defense Missiles with range of 11 km , 40+ km and 150+ km for Ship point , local and wide area defence

Indian VISAKHAPATNAM class Destroyer = 32 BARAK-8 SAMs

Turkish TF-2000 class Destroyer = total of 181 SAMs
-- 128 HISAR-D Block2
-- 32 SIPER Block2
-- 21 LEVENT

11 km LEVENT SAM
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40+ km HISAR-D ( SAPAN ) SAM
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150+ km SIPER Block2 SAM
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HISAR SAM can engage on close range - low altitude sea-skimming anti-ship Missiles

speed of mach 3.5 with 2nd pulse motor.

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TF2000 will have a more firepower for sure but I guess Visakhapatnam will be better for air defence because it is armed with combat proven Barak 8 and Barak could even destroy deadly Iskandar ballistic missile.....

 

[MMM-E]

TF2000 will have a more firepower for sure but I guess Visakhapatnam will be better for air defence because it is armed with combat proven Barak 8 and Barak could even destroy deadly Iskandar ballistic missile.....

Turkish technology is not computer game

if Turkiye develops a weapon system that means high quality Western-NATO standard as like American-European weapons


and so easy to hit Indian Destroyers because of only 32 SAMs

in a swarm attack of 50 cost effective 150+ / 180+ km KUZGUN-TJ , CAKIR , İHA-230 Missiles will be enough

even cost effective 200+ km KEMANKES and SIMSEK kamikaze Drones with speed of mach 0,7-0,9 to exhaust 32 BARAK-8 air defense missiles early

even 700 km SUPER SIMSEK kamikaze Drone is more cheaper than BARAK-8 SAM


10 Turkish MARLIN Unmanned combat Vessels carry 200 KUZGUN Missiles to hit Radar Systems of enemy Destroyers ...... and GAME OVER


32 SAMs are not enough for a Destroyer in the face of today's threats

Therefore TF-2000 Destroyer armed with 181 SAMs + 1 x 35mm CIWS +1 x LASER Weapon for air Defense role

 

[DDG-80]

HQ-9/16F both have a active-radar seeker,and the stealth target-drones they use for trarining are superior than any anti-ship missilese that india will have in the future 10 years.
JY-260：
Length: 4m
Wingspan: 1.6m
Takeoff weight: 190+ kg
Max level speed: 270m/s
Ceiling: 12000m
Min. Altitude: 20m (land variant), 5m (naval variant)
Endurance: 70 min
Remote control radius: 150km
Capable of swarm/formation flying: a formation of 16 drones flying at 30m apart can be controlled from a single console (?).
Payload capacity: 35kg
RCS:0.01㎡~3㎡(adjustable)
Payloads: EW suite, Luneburg lens, decoys, chaff, seeker simulators, etc.
Positioning system: Beidou and inertial.
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It successfully managed to penetrate deep into the territory of , key point is we have demonstrated HQ9 ()or none of their ADS can intercept the high speed projectile, so the objective is clear and louder.

 

[MMM-E]

First induct a proper warship in your naval fleet and then we'll talk...

Turkiye starting to build TF-2000 Destroyer in 2024 or 2025
as like Turkish KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jet Project amazed the world

First induct a real Destroyer in Your Indian Naval fleet
what a useless power with 32 SAMs to compare with Destroyers from USA , China , S.Korea , Turkiye and Japan


Turkish Naval Industry far better than Indian one which is nothing without Israeli Russian technologies .... full of technology transfer or under license production for Radar , SAM , CIWS , Naval Gun , ASW Rocket , VLS , etc

even Turkish Unmanned Combat and Kamikaze Vessels are enough to Destroy Indian fleet


Ukraine destroyed Russian Warships in the Black Sea including flagship MOSKVA BattleCruiser

Now Ukraine using unmanned Kamikaze Vessels to hit Russian Warships
Turkish unmanned Kamikaze Vessel with warhead of 200 kg

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Game changer variant on the way which can able to maneuver underwater

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even Turkish AKINCI , ANKA-3 and KIZILELMA UCAVs-Unmanned stealth Fighter Jets are enough for the Indian Navy

Indian Navy can not stop even Turkish unmanned robotic concept


and even ISTIF class Friagates armed with 40 SAMs ( 32 x HISAR-D and 8 x SIPER Block1 )


You pray for that Pakistan doesnt buy Turkish TF-2000 Destroyer , unmanned combat and kamikaze Vessels also KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 stealth Fighter Jets to harm the Indian NAVY

 

[MMM-E]

One INS Vishakhapatnam with 800+ km Brahmos can send entire Turkish navy to the ocean bed

800+km range BrahMos missile successfully test fired by Indian Navy

The Area Warning was for 900KM Range @CallSignMaverick @Pingle @Zarvan @JaneBhiDoYaaron

defencepk.com

only in your dreams

Even Turkish Frigates can fire 4 x ESSM SAMs against 1 BRAHMOS missile
ESSM designed to intercept supersonic Missiles

Thanks to superior technology with quad pack capability to carry 64 ESSM Missiles on MEKO-200 Frigates

and learn about military
A Warship Radar can not see enemy Warship even from 200 km
The radar horizon is a critical area of performance for Warship detection from another Warship

800 km range is only for land attack capability

32 SAMs on Indian Destroyer ... so funny
You better worry about how to stop Turkish unmanned robotic concept

-- Unmanned combat and kamikaze Vessels
-- Unmanned stealth UCAVs - unmanned stealth Fighter Jets
-- Cost effective Kamikaze Drones with speed of mach 0.9

even Ukraine using unmanned Kamikaze Vessels to hit Russian Warships

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