US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

the doctrines of US marines have shifted to be heavily China-focused in the past decade, most of their trainings nowadays are centered around seizing China's Yongshu, Zhubi and Meiji islands in the Spratlys. The upcoming amphibious campaign on a few Iranian islands in the gulf could be an excellent opportunity to test their skills in real combat. needless to say China will be a close observer to this campaign as well
 
Stand up to what? The Iranian regime and its terrorist proxies are our main adversaries and enemies in the region. There has been no "standing up" and there will be no standing up to that. In fact we will continue to support the destruction of our enemies.

You are living in some parallel universe. Most of Iran has been severely crippled economically and militarily with most of their leadership killed. They have suffered from 100's of billions of USD in economic damage. Close to 10.000 targets have been destroyed in Iran. In recent weeks and days most of their industrial capacity is being destroyed for all to see.

A few caves is not going to change anything let alone drones or ballistic missiles. They are not going to change anything or win even a single battle. The war, by all purposes, is already lost for Iran if the goal was to protect its economy, assets, industrial and military base and people.

KSA/GCC is largely completely unharmed in comparison. In particular KSA.

You are still forgetting the main key thing here. Iran is not winning anything and is never going to defeat the US or Israel. Not only that the US and Israel will never stop before the Iranian regime has either been removed, severely weakened to the degree that it will no longer pose a threat, reformed by force and most importantly until the nuclear topic (supposedly the main reason for this conflict) is solved once and for all. The US and Israel have all the cards and have all the means of upping the ante in this war. Such as targeting civilians directly (as Iran is doing - mostly complete utter failure), massive land invasion (eventually) or the use of tactical nukes.

Iran in return cannot do anything other than what they have already done. The worst thing they can do is damage regional oil and gas infrastructure (which will be rebuilt) and in return all of their oil and gas infrastructure will be destroyed - rendering the main income source of the Iranian regime gone. Which would speed up the Iranian regime collapse. And unlike the GCC (which can not only easily afford to rebuild) Iran cannot and will not be allowed to if the regime somehow remains intact.

And that is without all the other cards that the US and Israel can play such as support of active separatist groups within Iran, activating more sleeper cells (we have already seen videos from inside Iran where armed people are killing iRGC soldiers in broad daylight).

You are beyond deluded if you think that Israel, after all their recent success in the region (militarily) will not pursue their goals until the very end in Iran. They are not a rational actor. As I wrote I have no doubt that they would happily use tactical nuclear weapons on Iran if they ever felt like it or were ever genuinely threatened. Would anyone make them accountable? I highly doubt it.

And for all we know Israel and the US main goal might not even be regime change. Israel as I wrote likely prefers a perpetually failed and weak Iran over another potential regional competitor. Because a regime change in Iran would most likely mean a more pro-Western regime - which in return means massive US/West/Arab/Jewish/Israeli investments into Iran (untapped market). So this might not even be about regime change but castrating Iran and removing the nuclear threat. Or Balkanization or whatever.

The end result will be the same regardless - a destroyed and severely weakened Iran, their proxies included.

Look bud

The GCC and Israel have a hand full of desalination plants that provide most of your water

Your reliant on oil, gas and increasingly tourism for your economy


The U.S are morons, what has putting their bases and radars on your soil achieved????

It's provided you zero security

For Israel they have sacrificed you and your economies

And the U.S is headed towards a major strategic defeat




Other countries are making moves as we speak,, the Arabs can either catch up remain losers

Your being ridiculed across the world for trusting the U.S and look what they did to you?
 
the doctrines of US marines have shifted to be heavily China-focused in the past decade, most of their trainings nowadays are centered around seizing China's Yongshu, Zhubi and Meiji islands in the Spratlys. The upcoming amphibious campaign on a few Iranian islands in the gulf could be an excellent opportunity to test their skills in real combat. needless to say China will be a close observer to this campaign as well

But because of the Zionists they keep getting sucked into conflicts in other places


All China has to do is sit tight and watch the U.S blunder around like a drunken alcoholic picking fights everywhere


China is winning because the U.S is so stupid
 
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..., and then possibly do a full control operation like what we did in Afghanistan with the Northern Alliance, which back then it took NATO 185,000 troop, and Iran is roughly 3 times the size of Afghanistan (1.6 million sq mile vs 650,000 sq mile), so you are looking at around 500,000-600,000 troop is needed, ...

sq kilometres .
 
again that satellite data will not help since it's isn't real time nor persistent. Neither will it help conclusive identify a target nor work on moving targets. Blind missile fire is unlikely since Iran will not want to waste its limited supply on low probability strikes. Low cost drones can be intercepted with similar low cost anti drone solutions or with platforms with long on station time like the Warthogs. I think it's very achievable, one side has the resources and access to adopt faster than the other.
Well, I will tell you this much

There is stuff that I know, and there is stuff that I don't. I know that Russia is providing both targeting solutions and satellite imagery to Iran, that's what I know personally. Then there is stuff that I can't even touch with my credentials. Now, since I am locked out from that (Bear in mind, I had the top 3 security clearances), I don't know what it is. It may be a full SIGINT suit, it may be nothing, I don't know.

And also, from my experience, you won't be able to get them all, even if we have the full spectrum of intel. It is like trying to find a water droplet inside a waterfall. Can we just fly a couple of Warthog flights and try to suppress the Iranian threat in the Gulf? Sure, but you will need to get them right and get them all EVERY SINGLE TIME, which is not easy to do, and above all, this is all going to be reactive, because you will only know when they launch.

And finally, Iran did attack at Random; they attacked a ship twice, once when it was underway, and the second time when it was already abandoned and adrift.
 
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I will give you a hint. A country that starts with R and ends with A is providing targeting data or even Satellite coverage to Iran, that's not even an open secret.

Even if they don't, the blind firing (which Iran had actually been doing in the past month) is probably going to be enough to have the strait choke off, well, at least enough for now.

I'm not sure Rwanda has that kind of capability or why they would even want to get involved in this mess
 
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But because of the Zionists they keep getting sucked into conflicts in other places


All China has to do is sit tight and watch the U.S blunder around like a drunken alcoholic picking fights everywhere


China is winning because the U.S is so stupid
I'm beginning to think Netanyahu may be China's best ally. truely astounding how he masterfully dragged the Americans in to another ME mudhole
 
I will give you a hint. A country that starts with R and ends with A is providing targeting data or even Satellite coverage to Iran, that's not even an open secret.
Honestly Rwanda should stay out of this fight.
 
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My post was related to the US economy, industrial military complex, Iran and other regional events related to this. Not sure why it was deleted when it broke no rules and contained information related to this very thread and topic. China, being a world power, whether we like it or not, is also indirectly involved as is everyone else given the economic stakes at hand.

It is important to understand the war is a giant profit making machine for the industrial military complex in the US which is the underlining source of US power, wealth and dollar dominance.
Final warning to all involved no more off topic garbage.
 

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