US Political News and Trump’s China visit
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AZ_HighCountry
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Yommie
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You know what they say. Time flies. They are already in advanced stages of planning I bet.
Hamartia Antidote
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Bill Maher finally realizes Liberals are their own worst enemy
j_hungary
Professional
Dude, it's below you to quote a year-old video trying to misinform people.....Unless you are trying to say Bill Maher finally realised liberals are their own worst enemy a year ago
This is what Bill Maher thought 2 weeks ago
I specifically like 1:30 when he said that.
Hamartia Antidote
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oops did not notice the date.
Yommie
Elite Member
Someone is mad about the end of shutdown.
www.rollingstone.com
Jon Stewart Tears Into Democrats for Caving on Government Shutdown: 'I Can't F-cking Believe It'
Jon Stewart criticized Democratic leaders for caving on the government shutdown on the latest episode of 'The Daily Show.'
www.rollingstone.com
AZ_HighCountry
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The shut down in and of itself was idiotic and totally unnecessary. Democrats NEED hot button issues. Like the question regarding abortion and illegal immigration, Democrats chose to use this as a hot button issue.Someone is mad about the end of shutdown.
Jon Stewart Tears Into Democrats for Caving on Government Shutdown: 'I Can't F-cking Believe It'
Jon Stewart criticized Democratic leaders for caving on the government shutdown on the latest episode of 'The Daily Show.'
The question at hand now is the expiring tax subsidies and ending of the expanded eligibility they enacted into law in 2021. The subsidies and eligibility were meant to be temporary.
When they say the writing on the wall in late 2024, they had ample opportunity to make those subsidies and eligibility requirements permanent. They elected not to. And now here is where we are at.
Democrats created this. And, they are masters of blaming Republicans for it.
j_hungary
Professional
First of all, whether or not shut shutdown is the Democrats' fault or not, the Public view is that it is the Republicans ro blame; that's not just some polling data that suggested it did, that's from numerous elections from Nov 4, people are voting against Republicans in both Red and Blue states, there are no other solid way to interpret it. The Big 3 and numerous small races flip to the Democrats; if the people are blaming the Democrats, they won't vote like that.
All these are excluding the Big 3 Races (NYC Mayor, Virginia, and New Jersey Governor) because everybody knows about that, and minor races such as Pennsylvania Supreme Court Judgeship and Georgia Public Utilities Board races, as they are largely irrelevant and also minor win in blue states.
And you need a supermajority in the Senate to pass any tax credit exemption, as those are not budget reconsilatory bills, which means by 2024, it's impossible when they were just slightly ahead in a 50/50 Senate with Harris's vote as VP, they can't do anything about that. They will need 10 GOP senators.
The shutdown is the right play for the democrats in a pure political sense, but was let themselves down by their own. They didn't need to cave, and they did, and that's because Dem establishment is basically a "Republican Lite". This is also what I previously said to @FuturePAF about the "Divides" between establishment Democrats and the modern Democrats. Because I think the reason they did this is to try to curb the rise of the modern democrats who lean further to the left. Otherwise, I don't see any reason why they would do that when they literally have the golden goose —the voters' support.
FuturePAF
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
Because they caved, perception can and will be built against Establishment Dems by the Modern Dems. They will be primary-ed all across the country.
Btw, looks like maybe able to add Katie Wilson in Seattle to the count of dem wins across the nation:
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