Venezuela - US Conflict: News, Updates

[Persian Gulf]

I'm sure Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is happy to know that. Or Daniel Noriega.

which one of those is supposed to have diplomatic immunity at the time they were prosecuted ?

 

[HAIDER]

People are overestimating the role of Venezuelan oil not to mention that it is highly unlikely for the US to control all of Venezuelan oil reserves. Let alone extract it. By the time even 20% of it is extracted, the role and value of oil will be different from what it is today.

Venezuela's oil is ultra-heavy, viscous and sulfur-rich, requiring specialized, costly refining and upgrading, unlike lighter, sweeter crudes found in KSA.

Not to mention decades of underinvestment, mismanagement, cost of extraction (far greater than in KSA - which is the cheapest in the world).

Essentially it is of a very low quality.

No comparison here.

Also the US has no interest in flooding the oil market. It makes little sense from a financial viewpoint.


Any way not the least surprised that a failed state like Venezuela could allow itself to be humiliated in such a fashion. Obviously he must have been betrayed by elements of his own military and intelligence community.

Also not a surprise either as Latin America has been the historical backyard and playground of the US since the Spanish Empire lost its final colony in Cuba some 120-130 years ago. That is unlikely to change in the future. Most Latin American states are already aligned with the US politically and economically. The exceptions are socialist/populists governments that come and go and eventually are removed. When Lula is removed in Brazil, we will have another Bolsonaro that will be aligned with the US. That will eventually change again with the usual cycles but the US will remain the top dog in the region mainly due to lack of competitors in the vicinity.

Russia and China were always irreelvant in the Western Hemisphere.

Obviously moves like this are against all "international laws" but by now few people should take such drivel seriously. Might was always right throughout almost all of recorded history.

Hopefully this new geopolitical reality will give birth to strong Arab leaders that will work towards greater unification within the Arab world, even through force if needed. I personally hope that KSA will annex certain entities in the nearby future. We as Arabs need to protect and follow our interests in our own backyard even through force if necessary but that is a different discussion altogether. Goes for the Muslim world as a whole too. Instead of playing third fiddle or following either the West or East. Arab/Muslim civilization was a superpower and culture of its own always until very recently. We are not part of this mess between West and East and should follow our own interests.

This operation also indirectly against China and India , who are the major buyers of Venzi oil.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

FFS Cheng you been waiting and seeing for over a decade since I been reading your posts on here.

you have little to say or add to meaningful discussion I am surprised that a doctor would have so much time to come on here and talk nonsense. Are you really a doctor? Which school gave you a degree?

Easy now with the personal attacks.

 

[FuturePAF]

The public here in the US has been primed for this move for a while now:

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[Beast89]

Trump is Jewish!

Post in thread 'The USA Against The World' https://defencepk.com/forums/threads/the-usa-against-the-world.29342/post-1069575

100%, he didnt put his hand on the Bible.

 

[FuturePAF]

This operation also indirectly against China and India , who are the major buyers of Venzi oil.

Considering the to the oil infrastructure it will take 5-10 years for production to rebound to its potential. Marines will probably move in to secure the fields soon enough, and that may mean a lull in oil production soon. Good news for the OPEC producers not under sanctions.

 

[FuturePAF]

BTW, there has been a phone call between Rubio and the Venezuelan Vice President, but the initial reports of the content of that conversation are wildly different thus far.

We will find out soon enough, if she is allowed to stay in power, at least for the transition.

 

[Cash gk]

The President is not Jewish.

And watch this. He's a Zionist

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[FuturePAF]

What sovereignty would that be? Latin America has never been what I would call sovereign. Some level of corruption has existed throughout the LATAM countries for as long as I can remember.

Perhaps it was just distraction of the last 25 years in the GWOT, but successive US governments have let LATAM do as it pleased for decades now. I guess we have returned to the status quo ante.

 

[Fatman17]

At least 40 people were killed in the U.S. attack on Venezuela early Saturday, including military personnel and civilians, according to a senior Venezuelan official. https://trib.al/Jj120Op

 

[VCheng]

We will find out soon enough, if she is allowed to stay in power, at least for the transition.

One interesting rumor is that she was in Russia, but as yet unconfirmed.

 

[Watandar]

Perhaps it was just distraction of the last 25 years in the GWOT, but successive US governments have let LATAM do as it pleased for decades now. I guess we have returned to the status quo ante.

Good point. The US was deeply involved in destabilizing Latin America in the 1970s and 1980s but had then left the region alone since then. Because of that many Latin American countries were able to starve their militaries, build democracies, invest in human capital and infra and sign trade agreements. Heck Fidel Castro was able to die in peace in old age! Its not been noticed much abroad but Latin America is in much better shape than most of the Islamic world.

Operation Condor - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

With this Venezuela attack the US has gone back to its 70s and 80s policy.

 

[FuturePAF]

The President is not wrong. The cartels have far more control than we think.

He’s weight about that. Far too much has been allowed to fester. But Mexico is a hornet’s nest with cartel ops deep into many places in the US. It would be great if Trump could take them out, but it seems a bridge even too far for Trump to be able to pull off.

So to cutoff the supply of drugs, the navy will probably step up inspections of suspected cargo to the western hemisphere as well as probably go after those cocaine labs in South America, to minimize the cartels. Only then going after those that remain able to ship in drugs into the US.

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[Davey Crockett]

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[HAIDER]

But Trump administration setting up very bad precedence ......... weaker nation on mercy of powerful...