Venezuela - US Conflict: News, Updates

Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro was in a New York jail hours after American special forces seized and flew him out of his country, which Donald Trump said would come under effective US control.

The US president's announcement followed a lightning pre-dawn attack in which commandos grabbed Maduro and his wife while air strikes pounded sites in and around Caracas.

A US government plane carrying Maduro landed at a military base shortly after nightfall, and he was transported by helicopter to New York City, where the couple were to be arraigned on drug trafficking and weapons charges
 
VCheng said:
It can only be saddening, not surprising at such views, while at the same time highlighting the importance of free communication to help improve understanding of different points of view.

To be fair, regarding USA as "a thieving scum of a nation" is just as wrong as portraying it as "something to look up to". It is just another country, in a world full of countries. No one country is perfect, and they all do whatever possible to further their own national interests, without exception: USA, EU, Russia, China, Israel, Iran ... ... They ALL do it.

On topic, Maduro obviously was doing what he felt were the right policies to follow. Like many who found out the hard way, prolonged economic distress can lead a whole nation into supporting desperate acts that might appear to be attractive solutions, but are not in the long term. Outside forces are only too happy to oblige, as this event shows.

Not to go off topic, but in this are important lessons for both Iran and Pakistan, with failing economies, an increasingly desperate people and enemies outside just waiting to pounce.
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To the simplest term, Trump saw a way in, and he took it, and as usual, didn't think ahead.

This can go both ways, and it can make Venezuela to become a US allies but at the same time, if things are planned and executed well, it WILL become another Iraq and follow us every move. Removing the head of state does nothing to the regime. What Trump is banking on is people to step up and overthrow the regime for him. We aren't going to do jack shit in Venezuela after this; this is more or less just throw the dice and see where it fall.

The issue here is, there aren't many country in the world can pull this out, US is one of them, China is another, possibly Russia, so to this end, this enable them to use this same tactics and say "Oh, maybe we should try it as well"

Well, I don't have any love loss with Maduro, but I will say yesterday is the day where international diplomacy died.
 
j_hungary said:
This can go both ways, and it can make Venezuela to become a US allies but at the same time, if things are planned and executed well, it WILL become another Iraq and follow us every move.
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You mean if things are NOT executed well, Venezuela can become another Iraq, right?

I agree this can go both ways, since it is too early to tell what shape a post-Maduro Venezuela will take.
 
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MH.Yang said:
Regrettably, China indeed has no ability to save Maduro. Even the think tanks in China until the day before yesterday still believed that the US would not invasion Venezuela. Trump is an unconventional man. Or, put another way, the world order is collapsing faster than the Chinese anticipated.
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You want to understand Trump. You see a street tug. Who follows his ego? He's very easy to understand. He's very predictable.
 
j_hungary said:
US is one of them, China is another,
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This behavior completely deviates from China's political aesthetics, and the Chinese government will definitely not do such a thing to any sovereign country.
 
hasssanali8998 said:
i remember Iraqis and Libyans celebrating too , shall we ask them what they think about it now
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That's more complicated. Iraqis had majority say with significant Sunni minority,but there was also the Kurdish factor.

Libyans got fucked up because of their stupidity. They had a functioning country,no brutal sanctions and they thought it would be peachy like in Egypt.

I'm hopeful for Venezuela. Different people,different mindset. Maduro's rule turned the country into prostitution and scams. Basic needs could not be met by many.

Man,I'm telling you,I used to talk with dozens and dozens of latinas. The Venezuelans AND the non-Venezuelans used to tell me that things were very bad. The situation was very bad there. And the non-Venezuelans had the country as a reference of a failed economy and politics. Everyone blamed Maduro and his gobierno.
 
VCheng said:
You mean if things are NOT executed well, Venezuela can become another Iraq, right?

I agree this can go both ways, since it is too early to tell what shape a post-Maduro Venezuela will take.
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Yeah, for some reason I keep missing the NOT when I type on this computer.....

As Ryan McBeth said on his channel, if they ship in Machardo in a US Air Force C-17, we are looking at a civil war in Venezuela

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KingQamaR said:
Problem was not the socialists policies. But US imposed sanctions!
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During Chavez's period the only sanction imposed in 2006 was for sale of weapons & US made military equipment.

The later sanctions during Maduro's term from 2015 was a result of his violent crackdown on demonstrations against Maduro.

Only the recent 2019 oil embargo were strategic and crippling.

It's always a double edges sword with imbeciles like Maduro, who even created a Constituent Assembly to override the parliament in his hunger for power. All are to be blamed equally.
 
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