Zhuhai Airshow 2024

Deino said:
Interesting ... I get a slightly different translation:

We are eagerly looking forward to more new models of equipment being unveiled soon. In response, Senior Colonel Xie Peng, spokesperson for the Air Force, said: The Chinese Air Force has been steadily advancing the development and deployment of various new equipment as planned. At the right time and occasion, more powerful and powerful equipment that meets everyone's expectations will surely be unveiled one after another. Look forward to it!

... and especially that bold part says at least by using future tense "somewhere in the future" but unlikely tomorrow!
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I use machine translation. I don't know how to describe it in correct English.

His exact words in Chinese are “适当的时机和场合”, which in Chinese is understood to mean “when I want to announce it, I will announce it ..............”.
"一定会有符合大家期望的更“牛”的重器、利器陆续公开露面". This Chinese sentence is usually understood as. I have something more powerful in my hands.

The full meaning is. I have something more powerful in my hands, but I don't want to announce it right now. I'll announce it when I think it's appropriate.
 
yusheng said:
j35
J35 parameter
Source: AVIC Public Information
Organized by: Hong Kong Wen Wei Po, Song Wei

Engine: 2 turbofan-19 engines with a thrust of over 20 tons
Invisibility: radar reflection area of 0.01 square meters
Radar: Gallium Nitride Active Phased Array Radar
Takeoff weight: 35 tons, payload of 8 tons
Weapon: 8 missiles
Voyage: Operating radius 1350 kilometers
Speed: The maximum speed reach 2.2 Mach
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Mach 2.2 with DSI ? seriously ?
 
ws-19 with 360
yusheng said:
j35
J35 parameter
Source: AVIC Public Information
Organized by: Hong Kong Wen Wei Po, Song Wei

Engine: 2 turbofan-19 engines with a thrust of over 20 tons
Invisibility: radar reflection area of 0.01 square meters
Radar: Gallium Nitride Active Phased Array Radar
Takeoff weight: 35 tons, payload of 8 tons
Weapon: 8 missiles
Voyage: Operating radius 1350 kilometers
Speed: The maximum speed reach 2.2
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ws-19 with 360Deg tvc...really?
 
Hussain said:
Mach 2.2 with DSI ? seriously ?
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the parameter of this list may not such correct, just for reference.

J20 has DSI too, and its maxspeed is at least 2.5M.

"""The emergence of the J-20 signifies further development of DSI intake technology, as the J-20 can achieve combat cruising with missiles at 2.5 Mach. This speed means that the J-20's DSI intake overcomes the problem of low total pressure recovery coefficient above 2.0 Mach, or at least improves it. As for what technology was used, I have no way of knowing and can only wait for further decryption."""
 
Hussain said:
Mach 2.2 with DSI ? seriously ?
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Military news in the Hong Kong media has very little credibility.

Hussain said:
Thank you for that, but can you confirm the model number?
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I can't say for sure, I haven't found any information on it at the moment. It may be a state-of-the-art radar. It's similar to multiple known radars, but not identical enough for me to tell.

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It's late at night China time and there will be no more updates today. Let's continue tomorrow!
 
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kuge said:
ws-19 with 360


ws-19 with 360Deg tvc...really?
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Where did WS19 with 360 degree tvc is mentioned?

I think 360 degree tvc is 3D TVC which was in discussion somewhere sometime ago with WS19.


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WS19 with 3D TVC.

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WS19 with 2D TVC.
 
yusheng said:
the parameter of this list may not such correct, just for reference.

J20 has DSI too, and its maxspeed is at least 2.5M.

"""The emergence of the J-20 signifies further development of DSI intake technology, as the J-20 can achieve combat cruising with missiles at 2.5 Mach. This speed means that the J-20's DSI intake overcomes the problem of low total pressure recovery coefficient above 2.0 Mach, or at least improves it. As for what technology was used, I have no way of knowing and can only wait for further decryption."""
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May I ask for a source of this M2.5 quote? Please not again Minnie Chan and the SCMP! And the fact that maybe the DSI is capable to work at up to (what I don't believe) does not mean the aircraft itself is rated for such a speed since there are much more issues than benefits at such high speeds especially for RAM-coating, CFK-materials and so on. It simply makes no sense unless you want to play Quartet's game with some kids.
 
Deino said:
May I ask for a source of this M2.5 quote? Please not again Minnie Chan and the SCMP! And the fact that maybe the DSI is capable to work at up to (what I don't believe) does not mean the aircraft itself is rated for such a speed since there are much more issues than benefits at such high speeds especially for RAM-coating, CFK-materials and so on. It simply makes no sense unless you want to play Quartet's game with some kids.
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Not sure where but i have heard/read that J20 jet has top speed (not the sustained speed) of Mach 2.55. What info do you have?
 
silicon0000 said:
Not sure where but i have heard/read that J20 jet has top speed (not the sustained speed) of Mach 2.55. What info do you have?
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In fact no or no reliable data but based on what I heard the most often mentioned realistic estimate is Mach 2.0 ... I remember there was once a true nerd - one would say plain stupid idiot - at the old PDF who repeatedly claimed, all J-20s would use serial production WS-15s from day one. These would provide about 245 kN of thrust, would feature a TVC nozzle and the J-20 could reach a speed of March 2.5.

Therefore my fear, it might be from him.
 
Deino said:
In fact no or no reliable data but based on what I heard the most often mentioned realistic estimate is Mach 2.0 ... I remember there was once a true nerd - one would say plain stupid idiot - at the old PDF who repeatedly claimed, all J-20s would use serial production WS-15s from day one. These would provide about 245 kN of thrust, would feature a TVC nozzle and the J-20 could reach a speed of March 2.5.

Therefore my fear, it might be from him.
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Well little search lead me here: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/how-fast-china’s-j-20-fighter-jet-189915

Not very reliable 😇
 
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