Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Immortals said:
The radars is another baffling story.

Why didn’t the OTH radars pick up anything? Why did some regional areas rely on a single radar point? Why weren’t there multiple radars in place as back ups?

How did a fighter jet manage to drop a bunker buster on the bunker of Hajizadeh/Bagheri?

How did Israel do a massive bombardment of the bunker that housed the SNSC?

Why was the primary defense of Tehran, WW2 era AA guns? Where was Skyguard?

Lots of questions and no answers.
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Did it ever occur to you that it might have been an inside job?
 
ChineseTiger1986 said:
Not pre-emptive strike, but Iran's main objective to win this battle with minimal carnage.

Iran will not attack unless the US attacks first.

Sinking the two supercarriers might be too risky for the following two reasons:

1 - It might deplete most of your missile inventory.

2 - It might resort with a US nuclear retaliation.


So the best strategic goal for Iran is to repel the US army by incapacitating their supercarriers with damaged catapults.
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I disagree.

There is no precedent to a nation attacking another with Nuclear Weapons just because a warship is sunk due to a conventional attack.

Sinking a carrier is good for morale, because it is a highly symbolic event that marks the end of Western Naval Dominance in the Earth's oceans since 500 years, after the Portuguese ruled the waves in Asia after they captured Malacca and took over the Spice Trade Routes in the Indian Ocean and Malacca Straits since that era till now ( 1526- 2026 AD which is 500 years of Western Naval Supremacy in a region stretching from West Asia to SE Asia ).

I still have self-esteem problems when comparing our people to Europeans, where I'm not proud being a majority ethnic group in Malaysia because our military history sucks because our Malacca Sutanate lost to white-skinned foreign navy from Europe(Portugeuese) who came from Iberia that has just chased out brown Muslims, so I want to see US NAVY be destroyed as they are the modern-day Portugal for me who I want to see their navy be destroyed as I am still bitter Malacca couldn't won the war against the Portuguese White Crusader invader scum.

For many people of color who are mad at White People for their racism and Islamphobia, like ME here, it is very necessary to see a Highly Symbolic and Visible Asset of Modern-Day Western Naval Dominance like a USN Supercarrier be sunk in a Live, Real, War(not theory or wargames anymore) so as to elevate our Morale, our Self-Esteem, and even our Self-Confidence.

The sinking of a carrier allows many people to celebrate and live in high hopes that Western Naval Dominance and White People in Wars can be defeated by Non-White and Non-European, Non-Caucasian Peoples and gives us people of color a sense of pride and prestige that we can eliminate a highly symbolic asset of Caucasian Military Dominance in warfare(sure, Black Americans exist and USA is not just Whites, but it is Whites that are the Number 1 Majority race that still runs the country there, so the US military is still considered a representative of a "Caucasian Military Dominance as most of its soldiers are white")

Therefore, sinking A USN Supercarrier is a must, a "Baptism of Fire" (for a lack of a better word), to reduce Westerners into no longer a Military Powerhouse but to turn them into Insignificants in the face of the proud BRICS Alliance.
 
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Immortals said:
The radars is another baffling story.

Why didn’t the OTH radars pick up anything? Why did some regional areas rely on a single radar point? Why weren’t there multiple radars in place as back ups?

How did a fighter jet manage to drop a bunker buster on the bunker of Hajizadeh/Bagheri?

How did Israel do a massive bombardment of the bunker that housed the SNSC?

Why was the primary defense of Tehran, WW2 era AA guns? Where was Skyguard?

Lots of questions and no answers.
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Iran has repaired some of the OTH radars, so they must have some utility

the story about Hajizadeh is that Israel waited for him to go to the usual meeting room and then killed him

maybe they used several ALBMs with penetrating warheads or internal explosives.

there are indeed many open questions
 
StrategicBear said:
I disagree.

There is no precedent to a nation attacking another with Nuclear Weapons just because a warship is sunk due to a conventional attack.

Sinking a carrier is good for morale, because it is a highly symbolic event that marks the end of Western Naval Dominance in the Earth's oceans since 500 years, after the Portuguese ruled the waves in Asia after they captured Malacca and took over the Spice Trade Routes in the Indian Ocean and Malacca Straits since that era till now ( 1526- 2026 AD which is 500 years of Western Naval Supremacy in a region stretching from West Asia to SE Asia ).

I still have self-esteem problems where I'm not proud being a majority ethnic group in Malaysia because our military history sucks because our Malacca Sutanate lost to white-skinned foreign navy from Europe(Portugeuese) who came from Iberia that has just chased out brown Muslims, so I want to see US NAVY be destroyed as they are the modern-day Portugal for me who I want to see their navy be destroyed as I am still bitter Malacca couldn't won the war against the Portuguese White Crusader invader scum.

For many people of color who are mad at White People for their racism and Islamphobia, like ME here, it is very necessary to see a Highly Symbolic and Visible Asset of Modern-Day Western Naval Dominance like a USN Supercarrier be sunk in a Live, Real, War(not theory or wargames anymore) so as to elevate our Morale, our Self-Esteem, and even our Self-Confidence.

The sinking of a carrier allows many people to celebrate and live in high hopes that Western Naval Dominance and White People in Wars can be defeated by Non-White and Non-European, Non-Caucasian Peoples and gives us people of color a sense of pride and prestige that we can eliminate a highly symbolic asset of Caucasian Military Dominance in warfare(sure, Black Americans exist and USA is not just Whites, but it is Whites that are the Number 1 Majority race that still runs the country there, so the US military is still considered a representative of a "Caucasian Military Dominance as most of its soldiers are white")

Therefore, sinking A USN Supercarrier is a must, a "Baptism of Fire" (for a lack of a better word), to reduce Westerners into no longer a Military Powerhouse but to turn them into Insignificants in the face of the proud BRICS Alliance.

Many people are still
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Sure, sinking a US carrier will be largely demoralized the white supremacy.

However, you can see that the Iranian members and their government are not willing to take that risk of getting the nuclear retaliation from the US.

When the catapults on the flight deck are all getting damaged by the missile strike, it has to retreat from the battlefield.
 
ShapurII said:
New anti-regime protests erupt in some universities after they are reopened.

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what happened to the much hyped total internet blockout? if they can still post these videos to social media?
Was that just a one time thing
 
StrategicBear said:
There is no precedent to a nation attacking another with Nuclear Weapons just because a warship is sunk due to a conventional attack.
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Hiroshima was a result of the attack on Pearl harbor, and those were only destroyers, which consequently at that point of time was the pinnacle of US naval power
 
The Pentagon has spent the past week amassing a significant force in Europe and the Middle East, with more than 100 aircraft arriving just this week, as tensions with Iran continue.

Current presence in Europe/US European Command:

36 F-35 aircraft

24 F-15 aircraft

28 F-16 aircraft

12 F-22 aircraft

18 KC-46 aircraft

More than 57 KC-135 aircraft
US aircraft carrier Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78):

More than 48 F/A-18 aircraft

More than 6 E/A-18 aircraft

More than 4 E-2 aircraft

Two P-8 aircraft
Current presence in the Middle East/US European Command Central Command:

36 F-15 aircraft

36 F-16 aircraft

30 F-35 aircraft

12 A-10 aircraft

6 A/A-18G aircraft

6 E-3 aircraft

5 E-11 aircraft

7 KC-46 aircraft

20 KC-135 aircraft
One U-2 aircraft
Aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN-72):

12 F-35 aircraft

36 F/A-18 aircraft

6+ A/A-18G aircraft
4+ E-2 aircraft
4+ B-8 aircraft
The situation is still evolving, and aircraft are still moving to their positions.

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جوبا said:
what happened to the much hyped total internet blockout? if they can still post these videos to social media?
Was that just a one time thing
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It ended after 3 weeks. The IR is still trying to use deep-packet inspection to disable VPNs and have slowed down the internet per reports, but internet access was restored 3 weeks after the last protest.
 
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