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A very basic google search would have told you that the French tried very and failed to get the M88 as the basis of the engine for the Eurofighter.
No.
No because M88 and EJ200 thrust target was different, as the usage.
Rafale, so M88, was primarily studied as a Jaguar replacement for air to ground (ie medium or low flight profile), with an entry in service targeted in 1996. France has already an air superiority fighter in the pipe, Mirage 2000.
GB wanted a heavier fighter for 2 reasons :
- They had to cross the chanel to fight russian
- They wanted a bigger engine to replace the deceiptfull RB199 on Tornado ADV (ie high altitude). XG40 was studied for that purpose, and they hope to finance it thanks to next gen fighter (become EF2000).
 
No.
No because M88 and EJ200 thrust target was different, as the usage.
Rafale, so M88, was primarily studied as a Jaguar replacement for air to ground (ie medium or low flight profile), with an entry in service targeted in 1996. France has already an air superiority fighter in the pipe, Mirage 2000.
GB wanted a heavier fighter for 2 reasons :
- They had to cross the chanel to fight russian
- They wanted a bigger engine to replace the deceiptfull RB199 on Tornado ADV (ie high altitude). XG40 was studied for that purpose, and they hope to finance it thanks to next gen fighter (become EF2000).

At this point, you are talking total total rubbish Rakesh and making stuff up that has no basis in established historical facts on the historical timeline for the EJ200, Typhoon and the Rafale.

If you can't accept basic facts, there is no value in any conversation Rakesh. Bye .....
 
At this point, you are talking total total rubbish Rakesh and making stuff up that has no basis in established historical facts on the historical timeline for the EJ200, Typhoon and the Rafale.

If you can't accept basic facts, there is no value in any conversation Rakesh. Bye .....
Always the same answer when you are short of argument Stud.
 
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Macron says France will allow temporary deployment of nuclear-armed jets to allied nations​

France's president also said the country would boost its number of nuclear warheads from the current level of below 300 in the first such increase since at least 1992.
France's President Emmanuel Macron delivers a speech during his visit to the Nuclear Submarine Navy Base of Ile Longue in Crozon, France.

"My responsibility is to ensure that our deterrence maintains — and will maintain in the future — its assured destructive power," President Emmanuel Macron said. Yoan Valat / AFP - Getty Images


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L'ILE LONGUE, France — French President Emmanuel Macron announced Monday that France would allow the temporary deployment of its nuclear-armed aircraft to allied countries as part of its new nuclear strategy.

Macron said the new posture would "provide for the temporary deployment of elements of our strategic air forces to allied countries," but said there would be no sharing of decision-making with any other nation regarding the use of the nuclear weapons.

Talks about such arrangements have started with Britain, Germany, Poland, the Netherlands, Belgium, Greece, Sweden and Denmark, Macron said during a speech at a military base at L'Ile Longue in northwestern France that hosts the country's ballistic missile submarines.

He also said France will increase its number of nuclear warheads from the current level of below 300, in the first such increase since at least 1992, but he did not give a figure for how many.

"I have decided to increase the numbers of warheads of our arsenal," Macron said. "My responsibility is to ensure that our deterrence maintains — and will maintain in the future - its assured destructive power," Macron said.

Macron's speech was aimed at spelling out how French nuclear weapons fit into Europe's security amid concerns raised on the continent by recurring tensions with U.S. President Donald Trump.

European leaders have voiced growing doubts about U.S. commitments to help defend Europe under the so-called nuclear umbrella, a policy long intended to ensure that allies — particularly NATO members — would be protected by American nuclear forces in the event of a threat.

France is the only nuclear power in the European Union.

"If we had to use our arsenal, no state, however powerful, could shield itself from it, and no state, however vast, would recover from it," Macron said.

Some European nations have already taken up an offer Macron made last year to discuss France's nuclear deterrence and even associate European partners in nuclear exercises.

Earlier this month, German Chancellor Friedrich Merz said he'd had "initial talks" with Macron on the issue and had publicly theorized about German Air Force planes possibly being used to carry French nuclear bombs.

France and Britain also adopted a joint declaration in July that allows both nations' nuclear forces, while independent, to be "coordinated." The U.K., no longer an EU member but a NATO ally, is the only other European country with a nuclear deterrent.

Macron has consistently insisted any decision to use France's nuclear weapons would remain only in the hands of the French president.
 
France would probably increase to 1,000 nukes to ensure a total destruction of Russia. UK would follow to increase to the same level.

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France would probably increase to 1,000 nukes to ensure a total destruction of Russia. UK would follow to increase to the same level.

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Both France and UK would need to increase their SSBN fleet by 8 - 10 boats.
 
Both France and UK would need to increase their SSBN fleet by 8 - 10 boats.
Yes, more submarines necessary. Parts of the money will come from the Germans.
Germany will increase military spending to $150 billion a year minimum. I contribute with my tax money for those nukes. Win win.
 
Yes, more submarines necessary. Parts of the money will come from the Germans.
Germany will increase military spending to $150 billion a year minimum.

The US: It has 14 Ohio class SSBNs, but most of the Ohio class boats are aging fast, and the US needs to build 12 Columbia class SSBNs.

Russia: It is planning to build 12 Borei class SSBNs, and 8 boats have already been completed.

China: It has likely already built 10 Type 094 class SSBNs, and it is building 12 more Type 096 SSBNs.

Both UK and France currently only own 4 boats each as their only nuclear deterrence, but they don't have any land based/air based nuclear deterrence like the US/Russia/China.

Maybe Germany also wants to build its nuclear deterrence as the restriction on the nuclear proliferation will no longer exist after Iran will officially soon obtain its nukes.
 
The US: It has 14 Ohio class SSBNs, but most of the Ohio class boats are aging fast, and the US needs to build 12 Columbia class SSBNs.

Russia: It is planning to build 12 Borei class SSBNs, and 8 boats have already been completed.

China: It has likely already built 10 Type 094 class SSBNs, and it is building 12 more Type 096 SSBNs.

Both UK and France currently only own 4 boats each as their only nuclear deterrence, but they don't have any land based/air based nuclear deterrence like the US/Russia/China.

Maybe Germany also wants to build its nuclear deterrence as the restriction on the nuclear proliferation will no longer exist after Iran will officially soon obtain its nukes.
No, unfortunately Germany can’t have nukes. the 2+4 treaty forbids it. unless Putin runs amok and nukes non nuclear Germany. The Germans have enough nuclear materials for endless nukes.
So the most likely scenario is Germany finances France and UK nuclear buildup.
 
No, unfortunately Germany can’t have nukes. the 2+4 treaty forbids it (unless Putin runs amok and nukes non nuclear Germany).
So the most likely scenario is Germany finances France and UK nuclear buildup.

There was rumor that some German politicians were asking France to share their nuclear submarine and SLBM tech which could expedite Germany's nuclearization.

And who knows what would happen to the current global order as the official nuclearization of Iran will soon become a reality.

The US might completely lose their control on Europe just like on Middle East.
 
There was rumor that some German politicians were asking France to share their nuclear submarine and SLBM tech which could expedite Germany's nuclearization.

And who knows what would happen to the current global order as the official nuclearization of Iran will soon become a reality.

The US might completely lose their control on Europe just like on Middle East.
There is only one scenario: Putin officially declares Germany as enemy and threatens with nuclear war. Then everything is possible.
 
There is only one scenario: Putin officially declares Germany as enemy and threatens with nuclear war. Then everything is possible.

Putin is very pro-European, and if the US has lost the control on Europe, then he would like to fill the vacuum.
 
France would probably increase to 1,000 nukes to ensure a total destruction of Russia. UK would follow to increase to the same level.

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No.
Actual stockpile is 290, and all are not immediatly ready.
The higher french stockpile was nearly 600
I see a medium term aroung 400 to 450, and why not why a ground to ground new missile (something canceled 30 years ago).
 

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