Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Yeah Iran gonna not agree to cease fire and start dealing more and more damage as interceptors run dry. .

But then America and Israel wanting a ceasefire will play more and more dirty to pressure Iran on infrastructure and civilian targets. Probs get china and Russia to pressure Iran and probably even threaten with Nukes in backchannels to force Iran to agree
As for the Nukes, Iran should call their bluff on it. We can't ceasefire that easily as they'll come and do "mow the grass" operations periodically like Saddam Hussein's Iraq back in 1998, unless if the ceasefire includes a security guarantee from Russia and China that they will not allow Iran to be invaded by the US/Israel again and can enforce the ceasefire stopping both sides attacking each other for the duration of the ceasefire by establishing bases in Iraq to enforce a no-fly-zone in Iraq for all kinds of aerospace activity by both Iran and Israel(3-5 years?) Such a ceasefire allows Iran to rebuild missile forces to prep for the future under Russian and Chinese Air Force shield protecting Iran by not allowing Israel to attack again.

But now if push comes to shove and they actually fire Nukes on Iran, then Iran can take revenge later with dirty bombs, or "Iran's Sampson Option" with WMDs of their own like Neutron Bombs, Super-Mini Plasma Bombs(if they have developed this exotic shit), Chemical, etc...

Since the enemy used WMDs first, the "favor" must be returned...
 
Poyims(Pakistani goyims) to join fight against Iranian drones
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This is mainly being pushed by indian Media, taken up by twitter accounts and spread out. Everyone in KSA is used to this kind of stuff from Indian media each time any conflict with Iran starts. There is no logic in Pakistan sending its AF or AD to KSA. KSA is not under an air/land invasion. Its only a few drones/missiles here and there.
  • What Air defenses can Pakistan offer, that are better in terms of tracking and interceptions, than Patriots available with KSA ?
  • What exactly will Pakistani Fighter Jets do with Ballistic missiles beingainst fired ?
  • Pakistan is busy with Afghanistan and india as it is, we do not have the resources to start fighting in an unrelated theatre and invite Iranian missile attacks on ourselves too. Again, we do not have patriot systems anyway and our existing ADs are for india.
  • There has been no indication by Pakistan Govt that it is in any way getting involved in any of this.
  • Pak/Saudi Defense pact is strictly for containing israel, everyone knows it openly, even in KSA.
Unless something comes from Pakistan Govt, its all propaganda to sow discord between Iranian / Pakistani public.
 
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Most probably the case. However you usually don’t have hangers big enough to park big cargo planes. Usually there are 1 or 2 big maintenance hangers that is not hardened
They would probably be flown out of country like when they flew the air force tanker/transport fleet to Pakistan last June.
 
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At the end of the day---Iran will suffer for not having a potent air force.

A potent 4.5 gen aircraft could have pretty much neutered everything the israelis or americans could throw at them other than the 5th gen aircraft---.

Iran---even though it had a lots of time at their hands---acted in a lackadaisical manner when it came to equip the air force---.

I beleive that the Drone / missile Mafia in iranian military became dominant---the air force command became weak---treated like a step child from a second wife---while the drone / missile mafia ruled the roost.

I would say that was a very bad policy by the Iranian military for which they would pay heavy penalties---.

Or that noone dared to sell high tech weaponary to Iran due to extreme western pressure. Similar to how noone sells to North Korea. Iran then decided to invest everything in to ballistic, cruise missiles, built underground cities etc. The question is have is when will Iran run out of these missiles or what if Usa Israel manage to neutralise them via destroying the launchers. Iran will then be sitting duck.
 
I wake up to the news, Iran threatens to bomb Europe in retaliation to Europe potential involvement into the war.
Where the nearest bomb shelter?
 
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Wish those helis could had been shot down
 


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Seems the US/Israeli alliance prepare a ground invasion of Iran backed by Kurdish and other opposition army groups.

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Iraqis are clashing with americans in green zone, it would be great strategic victory if americans are kicked out from Iraq, Iran will get more breathing space.

They basically evacuated Iraq already. Take the very large and important Ain al-Asad Airbase as an example. At the moment, the Americans are focusing on Erbil and KRG. Probably in anticipation of this war.

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Fake. Azerbaijan has neither the military power nor Turkey's backing to push through with a massive military project like this.

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How would you define 'the West'? Do you consider Turkey to be part of the collective West? If that's the case, then the Ukrainians got Turkish support right from the beginning. Today, Kiev remains free from Russian control thanks to the Turkish drones and missiles that were sent in during the early days of the war and just before it began. The Russians had to retreat from land in northern Ukraine, partly because of significant Turkish involvement while the Europeans were still discussing what to do. Yet, the Russians would pick Ankara over Tehran in a heartbeat because they are completely untrustworthy.

I said it before the war, that the west would try to create a Kurdistan using the Kurds in Iraq and it will then be a 4D chess move against Turkey (which is their next target).

So if Turkey sits ideally by while they carve out an Iraqi+Irani Kurdistan. It’s only a matter of time before they say “hey we should take part of Turkey too”. Then if Turkey retaliates the Israeli’s will paint Erdogan as killing peaceful posters and stopping Kurds from having rights.

Turkey should be very careful here and not assume because it’s a part of NATO and has US nuclear weapons on its soil that it’s safe. As Israel and U.S. have shown, they don’t fight with honor. They fight with trickery.
Turkey's involvement hinges on various factors that I won't delve into here, as it's not the right subject. Just a quick note: Turkey has long sought for Iraq to label the PKK as a terrorist group but has been unsuccessful for many years, primarily due to Iran's influence. The Shia factions in Baghdad turned down Turkey's requests because the IRI leadership opposed it.

They only accepted to refer to PKK as 'banned organisations' in 2024-2025.


Still not labeled as a terrorist organization by Baghdad.

Another brilliant, long-term, multi-step, 4D chess move by IRI decision-makers. So, hopefully you understand and accept the shortsighted policy of Iran in this whole case.
 

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