Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

A little bit of brainstorming on my part:

I think that Iran should go for a ceasefire that maintains the status quo. Don’t make any concessions to the Baal worshippers and expect none. Accept a ceasefire like after the 12-day war.

The above will mean that the war is not over and can restart again. That’s correct, and Iran should spend the intervening time to prepare for the next round.

What is clear is that neither Iran nor any other country in the Middle East, or any Muslim country can expect to live in peace as long as Israel exists supported by the US. It should become an openly declared objective of all Muslims to get rid of Israel.

It is also clear that the US-Israel backed puppet regimes are a threat to not just Iran but to all the Muslims of the region. It should become an openly declared aim to get rid of all of them and replace them with representative governments.

Iran’s weakness that prevents it from becoming the de facto leader of all 2 billion Muslims is the sectarian issue. It’s unfortunate but true. The best way to overcome it is to partner with a major Sunni power like Turkey if old animosities or rivalries can be overcome. However, Iran can also tap into the ‘International Muslim’ which consists of hundreds of millions of mostly young online Muslims who support Iran.

Between the end of this war and the start of the next one, there might be a few years. In that time Iran would need to strengthen itself militarily and work on uniting the Muslim world to create an alliance.

My prediction is that the next round will the final one, maybe 10-100 times more destructive than this one. It will be the whole (or most of the) Muslim world against the Zionist controlled West. It will be the final and decisive battle.

In short, stop this war and prepare for the final one.
 
Professor Marandi reveals that Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Qatar are literally FUNDING the US war on Iran. They are paying the Americans to fight while allowing their airspace and bases to be used. Iran will demand massive reparations.

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+ Bahrain, Kuwait are involved too?
 
Immortals said:
Iran is going nuclear. In the off chance it doesn’t it’s not giving its HEU out of the country. Your defeatist scenarios don’t reflect the new reality which is Iran is 2-3 weeks away from crushing the world economy.

As Argachi told Witkoff in negotiations, “we won’t give you what you couldn’t take in war”.

Also your debating with a user who before the war said Reza Pahlavi is gonna be King and Iranians will rush to welcome him in the streets.
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I agree, now that iran has chosen the total war option and is controlling the escalation ladder, it simply does not make sense not to rush to nukes. because they know at the end of the ladder, US or Israel will threaten it with Nukes.

in fact I think we could either have a major false flag blamed on iran, 9/11 type of event, or major global recession/depression. Then trump will come and say we cant fully stop them since they are fireing from underground and hence we have to use "limited low yield tactical nukes" to fully stop them and that it will stricly be used for these remote bases only.

Maybe they will try the limited ground invasion first, but once that fails their only other option is the above, and knowing this iran will threaten with nukes back. God knows what will happen then.

Note that many americans still justify the atomic bombs used on Japan in WW2
 
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The hell is going on in Kuwait?
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I googled it and it seems that there are refuted rumors of radioactive leak from the Bushehr nuclear reactor. Yet, the Kuwaitis are acting like this. That's strange.
 
Persian Gulf said:
scenario 1 accounts for that: "unless nukes are somehow developed or the global economic situation deteriorates so the US is forced to offer favourable terms to Iran"

I am not confident that IRI will not fold like in June. the damage being endured is substantial and will take many years to rebuild. we need exit ramps to consolidate gains rather than overplaying our hand.

He is allowed his opinion, it is a discussion forum, after all. We are all wrong at different times. The leader of the free world and the most powerful military in history did not expect Iran to fire missiles at Arab countries, and even he was wrong, lol.
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at least this time, iran is offsetting loses by selling oil at higher prices and controls strait with potential tarriff charges, and all other economies are also equally suffering.

it doesnt make sense for ceasfire unless there is guarentees that iran wont be attacked again, and even then they need some form of compensation, i would imagine some sanctions relief.

Only way i see iran agreeing to ceasefire on unfavourable terms is pressure from china or if they truly cant develop nukes in time.
 
ShapurII said:
I googled it and it seems that there are refuted rumors of radioactive leak from the Bushehr nuclear reactor. Yet, the Kuwaitis are acting like this. That's strange.
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They released a radiation safety video as well. Maybe they got tipped off to something coming? Is US planning to attack Bushehr? That wouldn’t make sense because then they are going to drop soldiers into the radiation cloud?

Strange all around
 
Gryzor said:
Guys I'm sorry to be a little doomy & gloomy here, but I have bad feelings about that whole "backchannel" circus.

By markets closure on Friday they will :

-start massively bombing the electrical grid
-deploy the 82nd along with support from the MEUs

The two will be done in conjunction with a surge in bombings also in the planned deployment theater. Another Shock & Awe, try to develop with an assault at Chabahar , possibly already agreed with local Baluch insurgency. The Kharg/Kurdish thing is a ruse, and a bad one at that. They made a fuss about Kharg while it does not make any real strategic sense, and try to fool us into thinking supporting separatists elements in not on the cards with the Kurdish "disqualification". They might be reactivated in tandem with Baluchis.

There are long-terms plans with Iran. They are absolutely not done, not even close. They will erode it bit by bit, on the longer run, in low-intensity bombings like it's being done , punctuated with high-intensity when magazines and maintenance cycles allow. The power plants assault is one big , visible catalyst to the demise of the state they're looking for, I hope we don't get to this, but a lot of signs are pointing. Iranians may be brave and proud, but there are physical limits to what a country can take in terms of raw destruction I'm afraid.

All the ridiculous talk about negotiations is a disgraceful farce thrown at our faces for the third time. Trump is having his fun and absolutely loves berating Iranians as if they were nothing, it's appalling. He's enjoying his little monologue and knows that the whole world knows he's full of it. He simply does not care and will move ahead with his marching orders from Netanhyahu. Those "terms" are as unacceptable as they can get by design, yet again, the ballistic program by its mere reported presence means it's a done non-deal. Trump want to slaughter Iran and Iranians, period. They should never have said no to him. He cannot take no for an answer when he declares it's time for you to submit, that's the dark reality.

If anything he set it up exactly like last time : "as I told you day after day this week, we made progress, and then some more, and suddenly they stopped cooperating. I did all I could to avoid that, but now we really have to go all the way I guess. It's back to obliteration".

Let's hope there are enough vatan doost ready to at least put up a decent fight. I won"'t preach anything like an armchair general sitting thousands of miles away from that hell... sad times we live in. I simply keep some hope. Maximum strenght to the people.
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Related, and not necessarily specifically a question for you, but anyone really - has the IRGC invested heavily in FPV drones? Not the smokescreen wunderwaffen trash like switchblades, but the easily iterated cheap dive attack and bomber style ones we've seen in the Russia/Ukraine war?
 
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TallarnDesertRaider said:
Related, and not necessarily specifically a question for you, but anyone really - has the IRGC invested heavily in FPV drones? Not the smokescreen wunderwaffen trash like switchblades, but the easily iterated cheap dive attack and bomber style ones we've seen in the Russia/Ukraine war?
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Iran has been using cheap drones since 1980 Iraq war. Iran is one of the first countries to use drones in a war for attacking (at the time).

But yes FPV and cheaper drones than infamous Shahed exist. Just don’t get much attention as they are for close range combat operations.
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TallarnDesertRaider said:
Related, and not necessarily specifically a question for you, but anyone really - has the IRGC invested heavily in FPV drones? Not the smokescreen wunderwaffen trash like switchblades, but the easily iterated cheap dive attack and bomber style ones we've seen in the Russia/Ukraine war?
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Good question. We see some advertized in operation in the hands of the PMF, so I assume Iran has its share in numbers, but I concede i'm not knowledgable in that field, the OSINT I follow does not go that far (assuming that kind of data is available at all).
 
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