Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

David Horovitz is a sharp Israeli analyst, well worth following to understand the Israeli POV. He too is crying over the upcoming Deal. The whole article is worth reading but this part shows how Trump has been insulting Israel on a global scale. Hahahahahahah!!

www.timesofisrael.com

Trump’s deal is a catastrophic capitulation to Iran’s aggressors, leaves Israel vulnerable and constrained

In the US president's reality-challenged view, Israel is an ingrate and a warmonger, while Iran's mass-murdering leaders are 'very rational.' They are indeed all too rational, and he, clearly, is not
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Trump asserted in remarks at the G7 summit on Tuesday that Israel should be showering him with gratitude, since it is only thanks to him that we were not already eliminated in an Iranian nuclear assault.

“If it weren’t for the United States of America — with me, because Obama was the opposite — Israel would not exist right now. Israel would have been blown off the face of the earth, 100 percent. And every smart person in Israel knows that,” he declared. “Without us, without the United States, there would be no Israel. Without me, there’d be no Israel, because no other president was willing to do what I did [in tackling Iran].” Iran, he said, was “two weeks away” from having a nuclear weapon.

But he has now struck a deal that fails to definitively close off Tehran’s practical capacity to complete its nuclear program, and removes US military leverage to deter it from doing so.

And that’s not all.
 
Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ said:
Bennett is another with American background, chabadnik who's parents did Aliyah to zion... was an understudy to miliekowsky... in essence the heir to his legacy. Will aim to pull strings in the US while starting new conflicts and sabotage ops in Mideast and elsewhere...
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My point was and I had said it multiple times before even this war began: This war only happened because two leaders, Trump and Netanyahu, happen to occupy their respective offices at the same time. I had also said that if either Trump or Netanyahu had a heart attack then this war would not happen or if happening would stop. This is a personal war. A personal war! A Bennet in power in Israel or a Vance in power in America would not allow this war to happen.

BTW, only dumb people think nations always go to wars for national interests. No. Even in the so-called 'democracies', often the topmost leader drags a nation to power based on personal biases and vested interests and often with drastic consequences. If a Medvedev was the Russian President then there would not be a war on Ukraine. If a Manmohan Singh was in power in India then there would not be an Operation Sindoor May 2025. And if a Yair Lapid was in power in Israel then there would not be this war on Iran.
 
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It would be foolish for Iran not to develop nukes.
 
Iran won the war according to this Professor

www.middleeasteye.net

Iran dealt Israel a crushing defeat and vindicated America's anti-war majority

Pro-war pundits promised regime change, state collapse and strategic victory. Instead, Iran endured and Israel is now more isolated than ever
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Meanwhile UAE outlet is pushing the same line we now see across Western media aka "Iran is weakened".

www.thenationalnews.com

Who won the Iran war? | The National

Tehran was badly weakened on the battlefield, but the framework deal with Washington may be handing it strategic gains
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I think the fact that West and it's proxies can only say the war merely weakened Iran is itself an admission of their defeat.
 
Financial Times is also deeply disappointed lol and has gone back to to prewar propaganda lines. Iran "thinks" it won the war.

Iran’s government thinks it has won the war​

The Islamic republic faced devastating losses during the conflict, but the regime has gained in confidence


Not only did Iran win the war but the more important point it demonstrated to the region is that you don't have to kowtow and whimper in front of the US/Israel. They are beatable if you are smart enough and strong enough.
 
VCheng said:
So these are your views and you have the right to hold such views.

But they have a sovereign right to determine their own courses of action too, whether you agree with them or not.
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Sure they have a sovereign right

But what they were traditionally afraid of, was 93 million strong Iran as a big as Europe on their doorstep dominating them

Their hedge against this was obtaining U.S support, bases and weapons to counter Iran

This rivalry was used by the Zionists


However, the U.S has been useless
It's weapons overpriced and countered via drones and missiles

The U.S making strategic and political decisions to the benefit of the Zionists and cost of multiple GCC states

Major economic hits due to U.S stupidity,



The GCC can still continue to make independent decisions, but the war has cleared their minds
Iran is the dominant state in the region
Iran can decimate their economies
The U.S and west can't protect them
Iran can shut the Hormuz at will

If the GCC wants to protect their states and economies, the ONLY path is friendship will Iran and a new security situation where it gets support from friendly states who aren't likely to throw the GCC under the big for the Zionists



Hormuz has done to the American empire
What Suez did to the British empire
 
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AZ_HighCountry said:
Premature ejaculations, err....celebrations, seem to be a thing with some of the folks here.
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Suggest you consult a doctor about that issue, not really for this forum.
Your Orange idiot seems to have the same problem, how many times has he declared victory without anything to show for it?
 
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hussain0216 said:
Iran is the dominant state in the region
Iran can decimate their economies
The U.S and west can't protect them
Iran can shut the Hormuz at will

If the GCC wants to protect their states and economies, the ONLY path is friendship will Iran and a new security situation where it gets support from friendly states who aren't likely to throw the GCC under the big for the Zionists



Hormuz has done to the American empire
What Suez did to the British empire
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Let us take this up when the MoU and final agreement process is complete.
 
The below article is probably the best and most balanced. Gulf states were deeply shocked by the American Israeli failure in Iran war and are moving from confrontation to accommodation with Iran.


If Iran can have the maturity to build a fresh relationship with Turkey, Pakistan, China and enough of the GCC, it will be able to mitigate the future Israeli American threat in a very large way. Contrary to absurd military spending around the world, most geopolitical problems do not have military solutions.
 
BonPlan said:
They are able to produce their own MBT, their own SAM and anti missile systems (among the best of the world if not the best).
They were ready to produce their own fighter (Lavi) until USA, seeing a harsh competitor, give them full access to their fighters.
So don't worry for them.
Israel has nothing to demonstrate about their ability to fight.

(note that their opponents, of the past and of the present, are armed by russia, china, iran)
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‘There own’ but with how much US content / help / finance? Wasn’t even Lavi US financed until they pulled the plug? US itself has stated that it shares tech so openly with Israel that it’s hard to tell what is US and what is Israeli.
Incidentally do all French people love the genocidal Israeli’s so much, I thought that was just Indian’s?
 
Pahlavi Degenerates booing Iran during New Zealand-Iran football match identified and their assets to be frozen soon
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