Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

1.- US is neither bombing universities nor desalinization plants. Viceversa, they just have been warned by IRGC that doing so all energy infraestructure accross all the region will blow up.

Right now, they aren't. And so isn't Iran, but the US and Israel bombed Sharif University of Technology and hit the Center for Computation at the end of the main street of the university, next to the Department of Philosophy. Both buildings have been destroyed. They also hit Malik Ashtar University, and Imam Hussein University among others.

Also, they did attack water desalination plants in the south, most famously in the Qeshm Island.

2.- US is even not bombing main cities (no bombing reported in Tehran, Isfahan, Shiraz, Tabriz or Mashhad). Their industrial centers therefore are still producing weapons for the theater in Straits of Hormuz.

Parchin has been hit in recent weeks, which is in the Province of Tehran, and is one of Iran's major missile sites. And it's long been speculated to be a nuclear site too.

 

[ShapurII]

Ok, men also. Does make feel you better??.
C'mon... Stop being so thin-skinned... we're just joking.

Why should we joke like that about Iranian women at all? I didn't get the joke. Excuse me for having a bad sense of humor.

 

[LeonBlack08]

Iran 'calls Trump's bluff' as it denies negotiating with the US • FRANCE 24 English

 

[Flotilla]

Why should we joke like that about Iranian women at all? I didn't get the joke. Excuse me for having a bad sense of humor.

If Kyussis gave Up thumb I am happy because I did both agree. Anyway I didn't want to insult any Persian lady. Excuse me both of you.

 

[Immortals]

SPR went from going down 6-7M barrels per week to now just 3-3.5M. A reduction rate of HALF. Iran is losing leverage if it cannot enforce the closure of the SoH. At this rate getting to 250M barrels could take months.

@Persian Gulf

 

[Magi]

You're lying,

1.- US is neither bombing universities nor desalinization plants. Viceversa, they just have been warned by IRGC that doing so all energy infraestructure accross all the region will blow up.

2.- US is even not bombing main cities (no bombing reported in Tehran, Isfahan, Shiraz, Tabriz or Mashhad). Their industrial centers therefore are still producing weapons for the theater in Straits of Hormuz.

3.- US is not even targetting missile bases. Accepting that missile program It is out of his reach and letting the upper hand to IRGC that are firing missiles at will.

You know you even lying at your statements. Why to give you reasons about US when you started cheating?.

How much does they pay you?.

1. That is patently false. All it takes is a simple search.

2. The US "ran out of targets" because they already bombed out anything worth bombing in previous rounds. They will strike as needed to mow the lawn. Also Bandar Abbas is no less of a main city than those you listed.

3. What would be the point of bombing impenetrable missile bases when they can blockade the country and target raw material shipments? It is safe to assume that the majority of missile production capacity is destroyed as underground factories are probably a small fraction of the pre war production capacity.

You are uninformed and unpleasant. Consider this dialogue closed.

 

[Flotilla]

Right now, they aren't. And so isn't Iran, but the US and Israel bombed Sharif University of Technology and hit the Center for Computation at the end of the main street of the university, next to the Department of Philosophy. Both buildings have been destroyed. They also hit Malik Ashtar University, and Imam Hussein University among others.

Also, they did attack water desalination plants in the south, most famously in the Qeshm Island.


Parchin has been hit in recent weeks, which is in the Province of Tehran, and is one of Iran's major missile sites. And it's long been speculated to be a nuclear site too.

From months ago, universities have been not targeted.

Also they're not targetting anymore civilian infraestructure.

Both omissions are a suggestion that US has got some deterrence in their attack campaign.

Yes. But Parchin is a non declared nuclear city. And you re right, a very important missile city. But they didn't target the manufacturing buildings located at the north (Hamasin) where IRGC produces solid fueled missiles. The last time that place was bombed was half a years ago...

 

[030292]

SPR went from going down 6-7M barrels per week to now just 3-3.5M. A reduction rate of HALF. Iran is losing leverage if it cannot enforce the closure of the SoH. At this rate getting to 250M barrels could take months.

@Persian Gulf

That could mean one of two things, either hormuz is leaky or they are drawing very little to preserve the integrity of salt caverns.

Isn't the minimum limit you can draw from salt caverns is 300million barrel, if you draw any more the caverns get degraded.

 

[Meengla]

Sanchez is an example of what nations can do based on humanity and he is a slap on the faces of those--and we know some here--who keep repeating like 'Nations act only in their own interests'. Spain gains nothing by siding against this war except global admiration, just like Ireland gain nothing by siding with the Palestinians during the recent Gaza war.

 

[Meengla]

The strait is leaky! IRGC failing in real time. Up to 5-7MBPD is leaving the SoH with US air cover support! Add in the 2MBPD from UAE pipeline bypass! FAILURE!

If the Strait is that leaky then why is Trump calling for another truce? Also, do you recall just some weeks ago, Trump was crowing about he managed 100 million barrels of oil to pass through the Iranian blockade and then a few days later he said he doesn't want to be remembered as another Herbert Hoover?
There is a lot of propaganda from all sides but we need to look at what the nations are doing instead of what they are saying. And from what I can tell, the Americans don't want a prolonged war and are trying to get out of this as long a there is face saving and as long as the Petro Dollar is sufficiently secured. This war against Iran is unwinnable, much like the Vietnam War and the War in Afghanistan was for the Americans.

 

[tsunset]

What are the chances of a military coup in Iran right now? Are the IRGC & SL giving their tacit consent on this agreement?

There will never be any coup or regime change

Those are all either IRGC fanboy or Israeli/Evangelic American delusions

 

[Meengla]

This thing seems bigger than Trump. He is another tool to advance a decades old roadmap. Trump already served his purpose by starting this war. He is replaceable, which explains his care about elections. The next tool will continue the same agenda and will probably be better at it too.

Not necessarily will lead to another war on Iran. There are different entities in America with their own objectives--probably because of not only ideological reasons but also $$ from lobbies. The Democrats are the hawks in the Russia-Ukraine war but the Democratic President Obama spent a good bit of time for the JCPOA despite huge opposition from Saudi Arabia and Israel. JD Vance was very much against the Iran war before he even he became the VP and I am nearly certain if Trump has a heart attack today, then POTUS Vance will wrap up this war and no more while he would be the President. Heck, if Netanyahu has a heart attack today then I think the next Israel PM will not be for a war on Iran as Israel too has suffered some consequences.

 

[Magi]

 

[Immortals]

 

[Master Chief]

If the Strait is that leaky then why is Trump calling for another truce?

Excellent question. I would suggest that it may well be that the Strait is "leaky" but that the leak is so expensive to maintain that it would not be an economically viable long term prospect for the US to do so. Iran probably does have de facto control over the Strait, even if that means some ships get through under escort (which is clearly not a sustainable model).

The leak is too expensive to fix and too expensive to not fix. Which aptly reminds us that nothing was even broken before US-Israel started this war of choice!