Will ISRAEL lose Its ‘Numero Uno’ spot as The Most Powerful Air Force In The Middle-East ?

[MMM-E]

Even Hezbollah destroyed Israeli IRON DOME Air Defense System

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

700 km Turkish SUPER SIMSEK jet engine powered Kamikaze Drone to hit Air Defense Systems such as PATRIOT , S300/400 , DAVID's SLING , ARROW-3

Range : 700 km
Speed : Mach 0.9
Warhead : 35-50 kg
E/O Camera

 

[MMM-E]

Don't you think Turkey should have bought fighter jets from China or Russia instead of the American F-16 to avoid sanctions?

I can not even imagine what would be happen without Turkish Defense Industry

We'd probably be buying a lot of weapons from Russia and China including SU-57 and J-31

Because our so-called NATO ally USA does not sell weapons to Turkiye including F-35
USA blocked sale of 100 F-35A to Turkiye even Turkiye was a global partner of the F-35 program

6 Turkish F-35s have been in storage since 2019



That doesnt matter , with F-35 or without F-35 Turkish Air Force will become the King in the region
Thanks to Turkish Defense Industry for the KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jet program

 

[925boy]

Turkey is NATO member and right now don't need Jets from China or Russia.

which also explains why US eventually sells modern fighter jets and other weapons to Turkey- if not Turkey can walk away from NATO (not easily likely for the most part though).

 

[jzrmt]

Israel air force will never lose its unero uno spot in spewing death and murder to children and kids of Palestine.

And to the destructions and bombings of schools and hospitals of Palestine.

Israel will be unsurpassed in cruelty demonstrated time and time again and again with the weapons bestowed and given to them by USA and Germany

ZIONIST JEWS STILL CLEARLY NUMERO UNO IN THEIR DEALING DEATHS TO WOMEN AND CHILDREN AND DESTRUCTION TO SCHOOLS

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT

At least 27 people, including women and children, were killed and dozens were wounded in an Israeli airstrike on a school in the Nuseirat refugee camp in the central Gaza Strip, Reuters reported.

The IDF reported that Israeli fighter jets struck a camp of the Palestinian Hamas movement, which was located in a school of the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA). The IDF claims that several militants were eliminated in the strike.

Video from social media.

those fucking Zionist Nazis broken countless human rights laws for decades. They worse than Hitler Gestapo I hate Hitler for not completing his FINAL SOLUTION on Jews and letting them to infest Middle East like cockroaches and bedbugs

 

[Admiral General Aladin]

Turkey have its own KAAN stealth fighter. Plus the number of F16s and other fighter jets turkey has are far bigger than Israeli Air force .
Israel doesn't have a large domestic weapon industry like turkey. This thing matters a lot. This is the reason why all the combined military aid of US and NATO can't beat Russia in Ukraine. Because Russians produce sufficient arms domestically.

Well.turkey don’t have any operational fifth gen fighter.and plz don’t compare F-35 with kaan. Kaan is runniyon F-16's engine F-110 series.the stealthness of F-35 is League above than al other fighers except F-22.israel have nearly 100 if F-15 including new F-15ex which turkey lacks.israeli F-16s are more superior than Turkey’s F-16 fleet.turkey only have operational 200+ F-16 and outdated F-4. No comparison here.israel is far better than turkey.

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

Well.turkey don’t have any operational fifth gen fighter.and plz don’t compare F-35 with kaan. Kaan is runniyon F-16's engine F-110 series.the stealthness of F-35 is League above than al other fighers except F-22.israel have nearly 100 if F-15 including new F-15ex which turkey lacks.israeli F-16s are more superior than Turkey’s F-16 fleet.turkey only have operational 200+ F-16 and outdated F-4. No comparison here.israel is far better than turkey.

This thread is based on Current Israeli Goodies vs 2030 Turkish Goodies (with surety that everything goes as per plan) and You are comparing Current Israeli Goodies vs Current Turkish Goodies.

 

[Foinikas]

Cost effective and deadly solution

Do you personally get a share for advertising all that,every week?

 

[MMM-E]

Well.turkey don’t have any operational fifth gen fighter.and plz don’t compare F-35 with kaan. Kaan is runniyon F-16's engine F-110 series.the stealthness of F-35 is League above than al other fighers except F-22

F-35 has single Engine

Turbine inlet temperature

F-110-GE-129 = 1510 °C
F-135 = 1980 °C

The F-135 engine runs at 1980 degrees, meaning a very high heat signature.
The F35 has structural cooling to reduce this signature.

However, with this cooling, the heat signature still cannot decrease to the level of the F110.

F110 works at lower temperatures than F135. This means that it is close to F35 in terms of heat signature.

 

[MMM-E]

.israel have nearly 100 if F-15 including new F-15ex which turkey lacks.israeli F-16s are more superior than Turkey’s F-16 fleet.turkey only have operational 200+ F-16 and outdated F-4. No comparison here.israel is far better than turkey.

This thread is not comparing current Air Forces

The thread says will Israel lose its numero uno spot as the most powerful air force in the middle East


It seems Israel will lose this position in 2030s

Because Turkish Air Force has outstanding modernization program and Turkiye develop-produce its own game changer weapons

1 -- KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jet to be better than F-35
2-- KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet with 2 x TF.10.000 turbofan engines
to beat F-15 , F-16 , RAFALE , MIG-29M2 , SU-35 in BVR combat

3-- ANKA-4 unmanned stealth Fighter Jet with 1 x TF-10.000 turbofan engine
to beat F-15 , F-16 , RAFALE , MIG-29M2 , SU-35 in BVR combat

4-- ANKA-3 flying wing unmanned stealth Bomber with 2 x TF.10.000 turbofan engines
deep strike and SEAD-DEAD role

5-- The best Radar network
4 Boeing E-7T AEWC with 600 km AESA Radar ( L-band )
460 km AN/FPS-117 AESA Radar ( L-band )
470 km Selex RAT-31DL 3D L-Band Surveillance AESA Radar ( L-band )
700+ km ALP-300G next gen early warning AESA Radar ( S-band )
1.200+ km ALP-500G next gen early warning AESA Radar
600 km BIG BIRD Radar ( S-band )
GOKTURK-3 Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) Satellite

6-- 4 HAVASOJ airborne stand off jammer Aircraft
REDET-II mobile Radar Electronic Warfarre System
Also Turkish AKINCI UAVs will be equipped with the ASOJ-234U Radar and Communication Electronic Support/Attack (Stand-of-Jammer) payload.

7-- The best strategic strike UCAV fleet in the region with AKINCI UCAVs

8-- The best Missile-Kamikaze strike capability
500 km KARA-ATMACA land based Cruise Missile
1.000 km GEZGIN land based Cruise Missile
560+ km TAYFUN Ballistic Missile
1.000+ km CENK Ballistic Missile
280 km SOM air launched Cruise Missile
700 km SUPER SIMSEK jet powered Kamikaze Drone
800 km KARGI anti-radiation Drone with RF seeker

9-- KORKUT , SUNGUR , GURZ , GOKDEMIR , HISAR-A/O Air Defense Systems to intercept enemy Cruise Missiles and Kamikaze Drones

10 -- GOKDEMIR , HISAR-O , SIPER and S400 Air Defense Systems to intercept enemy Fighter Jets

11-- The best 4.5 gen Fighter Jet fleet in the region with
270+ F-16 Block70 with APG-83 and MURAD AESA Radars armed with 160 km AIM-120C8 and 200 km GOKHAN air to air Missiles

 

[Admiral General Aladin]

This thread is not comparing current Air Forces

The thread says will Israel lose its numero uno spot as the most powerful air force in the middle East


It seems Israel will lose this position in 2030s

Because Turkish Air Force has outstanding modernization program and Turkiye develop-produce its own game changer weapons

1 -- KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jet to be better than F-35
2-- KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet with 2 x TF.10.000 turbofan engines
to beat F-15 , F-16 , RAFALE , MIG-29M2 , SU-35 in BVR combat

3-- ANKA-4 unmanned stealth Fighter Jet with 1 x TF-10.000 turbofan engine
to beat F-15 , F-16 , RAFALE , MIG-29M2 , SU-35 in BVR combat

4-- ANKA-3 flying wing unmanned stealth Bomber with 2 x TF.10.000 turbofan engines
deep strike and SEAD-DEAD role

5-- The best Radar network
4 Boeing E-7T AEWC with 600 km AESA Radar ( L-band )
460 km AN/FPS-117 AESA Radar ( L-band )
470 km Selex RAT-31DL 3D L-Band Surveillance AESA Radar ( L-band )
700+ km ALP-300G next gen early warning AESA Radar ( S-band )
1.200+ km ALP-500G next gen early warning AESA Radar
600 km BIG BIRD Radar ( S-band )
GOKTURK-3 Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) Satellite

6-- 4 HAVASOJ airborne stand off jammer Aircraft
REDET-II mobile Radar Electronic Warfarre System
Also Turkish AKINCI UAVs will be equipped with the ASOJ-234U Radar and Communication Electronic Support/Attack (Stand-of-Jammer) payload.

7-- The best strategic strike UCAV fleet in the region with AKINCI UCAVs

8-- The best Missile-Kamikaze strike capability
500 km KARA-ATMACA land based Cruise Missile
1.000 km GEZGIN land based Cruise Missile
560+ km TAYFUN Ballistic Missile
1.000+ km CENK Ballistic Missile
280 km SOM air launched Cruise Missile
700 km SUPER SIMSEK jet powered Kamikaze Drone
800 km KARGI anti-radiation Drone with RF seeker

9-- KORKUT , SUNGUR , GURZ , GOKDEMIR , HISAR-A/O Air Defense Systems to intercept enemy Cruise Missiles and Kamikaze Drones

10 -- GOKDEMIR , HISAR-O , SIPER and S400 Air Defense Systems to intercept enemy Fighter Jets

11-- The best 4.5 gen Fighter Jet fleet in the region with
270+ F-16 Block70 with APG-83 and MURAD AESA Radars armed with 160 km AIM-120C8 and 200 km GOKHAN air to air Missiles

no.israel will not lost it’s aerial superiority even in future too.israel will have all the advanced variants of F-35,long range aim-260.i don’t turkey will have any capability to match aim-260.even when turkey inducts their kaan fighter,still israel will be ahead because of advanced variant of F-35 they'll receive

 

[Admiral General Aladin]

F-35 has single Engine

Turbine inlet temperature

F-110-GE-129 = 1510 °C
F-135 = 1980 °C

The F-135 engine runs at 1980 degrees, meaning a very high heat signature.
The F35 has structural cooling to reduce this signature.

However, with this cooling, the heat signature still cannot decrease to the level of the F110.

F110 works at lower temperatures than F135. This means that it is close to F35 in terms of heat signature.

Bro.i don’t think you know better than the OEM of F-16 and F-35.America has develop new F-135 engine for F-35 because the engine is superior in all aspects.if F-110 series engines are that much superior to F-135 than America must be a fool to select F-135 when they can easily select F-110 without spending so much money

 

[Admiral General Aladin]

This thread is based on Current Israeli Goodies vs 2030 Turkish Goodies (with surety that everything goes as per plan) and You are comparing Current Israeli Goodies vs Current Turkish Goodies.

So,you're saying that Israel will not upgrade their goodies in 2030??turkish kaan fighter is still in developmental phase.even if it enters service in 2030,still F-35 will be generation ahead than kaan.

 

[MMM-E]

Bro.i don’t think you know better than the OEM of F-16 and F-35.America has develop new F-135 engine for F-35 because the engine is superior in all aspects.if F-110 series engines are that much superior to F-135 than America must be a fool to select F-135 when they can easily select F-110 without spending so much money

I am not talking about superiority in engine

I am talking about single engine F-35 with a very high heat signature

KAAN use 2 x engines with turbine inlet temperature of 1510 °C
F-35 use single engine with turbine inlet temperature of 1980 °C

KAAN even with F-110 Engines close to F35 in terms of heat signature.


and Turkiye develops 35.000 lbf turbofan Engine with latest technologies
so KAAN will be better than F-35

 

[MMM-E]

So,you're saying that Israel will not upgrade their goodies in 2030??turkish kaan fighter is still in developmental phase.even if it enters service in 2030,still F-35 will be generation ahead than kaan.

Israel upgrade its Air Force until 2030 with

75 F-35 ( total )
25 new F-15EX
And modernize F-15 fleet

No any future project ...


And F-35 is nothing to compare with KAAN in 2030s
KAAN will be hunter killer machine to kick bulky F-35 in dogfight


and KAAN will have same BVR combat capability
KAAN with advanced magnetic coating and RAM panel layer it could RCS value for X band 10GHz as 0.0030 m2 [ -25dbsqm ] for the KAAN achieved balance against the F-35 in head to head engagement


Also KAAN has IRST could perform a contribution to engage to F-35 beyond the 34 km

BVR Combat Engagement
F-35 = 37km
KAAN = 34km



Also KAAN will have full data-to-decision (D2D) capability for multi-layered distributed team of diverse manned aircraft working in concert with unmanned types ( KAAN , ANKA-3, KIZILELMA )

Israel only can dream about it
KIZILELMA will help KAAN for tactical air combat

1 F-35 vs 1 KAAN + 2 KIZILELMA at the same time

 

[Admiral General Aladin]

Israel upgrade its Air Force until 2030 with

75 F-35 ( total )
25 new F-15EX
And modernize F-15 fleet

No any future project ...


And F-35 is nothing to compare with KAAN in 2030s
KAAN will be hunter killer machine to kick bulky F-35 in dogfight


and KAAN will have same BVR combat capability
KAAN with advanced magnetic coating and RAM panel layer it could RCS value for X band 10GHz as 0.0030 m2 [ -25dbsqm ] for the KAAN achieved balance against the F-35 in head to head engagement
View attachment 47251

Also KAAN has IRST could perform a contribution to engage to F-35 beyond the 34 km

BVR Combat Engagement
F-35 = 37km
KAAN = 34km
View attachment 47252


Also KAAN will have full data-to-decision (D2D) capability for multi-layered distributed team of diverse manned aircraft working in concert with unmanned types ( KAAN , ANKA-3, KIZILELMA )

Israel only can dream about it
KIZILELMA will help KAAN for tactical air combat

1 F-35 vs 1 KAAN + 2 KIZILELMA at the same time
View attachment 47253

bro.stop over charging yourself.Turkey is rapidly developing.but still a infant near american and israeli MIC.your kaan is a great project for turkey.but it is nowhere near F-35.and future F-35 advanced variants will further dwarf the kaan. kaan fighter is a great achievement but all the core technology comes from western sources.no western country will sell their latest technology to you