Bangladesh-Pakistan

[UKBengali]

Come on dude! Don’t be like them! Be specific like you usually are!

Also, Pakistan needs cotton for its own textile industry. Does it really have the capacity to export more?

Indian agro goods will always be cheaper due to logistics and the mega subsidy to their farmers from central government.

As I said, pls be specific.

If Pakistan had excess agro products - it would sell in big numbers to the Arabs and Iran - no?

But India dominates those exports as well!

BD is one of the largest importers of cotton and not everyone needs cotton.

There is something called yield and Pakistan can try to maximise this and then find a willing market in BD.

Anyway there are other agricultural products that Pakistan can market to BD if it can get the logistics right.

BD is a huge opportunity for them now that Hasina/AL are gone.

 

[agidest]

BD is one of the largest importers of cotton and not everyone needs cotton.

There is something called yield and Pakistan can try to maximise this and then find a willing market in BD.

Anyway there are other agricultural products that Pakistan can market to BD if it can get the logistics right.

BD is a huge opportunity for them now that Hasina/AL are gone.

It's not like the Pakistanis were not exporting to Bangladesh just because AL banned them. It's just that they are not competitive in any major sector/industry barring some niches like small surgical instruments. They have FTA with China, GSP plus in Europe, open trade with the US yet their total exports have remained largely stagnant for over a decade.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Massive opportunity for Pakistan to increase its exports to BD by billions of US dollars every year - everything from cotton, fruits and wheat etc.

BD should give priority to imports from Pakistan as over that from India if the cost is similar.

Also try to grab auto spares share. If you guys have an industry to make spares for TATA trucks and buses then they can easily earn tons since jeets have become butthurt and announced they’ll not export spares.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Also, Pakistan needs cotton for its own textile industry. Does it really have the capacity to export more?

Their garments struggle because of lack of energy and until they solve that problem. It wouldn’t be abnormal to see Pakistan move their garments into bd and export all their cotton to bd.

 

[SABRE]

Indian agro goods will always be cheaper due to logistics and the mega subsidy to their farmers from central government.

As an on-again off-again cotton grower myself, if the demand for cotton increases because of BD and thereby increases the prospective profits, we are very likely to increase the production. In my opinion, we can grow enough for Pakistani industry and BD industry and still have large surplus to export elsewhere. Its just the issue of demand, price, and governmental support.

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

BD is one of the largest importers of cotton and not everyone needs cotton.

There is something called yield and Pakistan can try to maximise this and then find a willing market in BD.

Anyway there are other agricultural products that Pakistan can market to BD if it can get the logistics right.

BD is a huge opportunity for them now that Hasina/AL are gone.

Are you aware of Pakistan’s Water problems

They have to grow 3 Water Intensive crops.

Sugarcane , Rice and Cotton

And now They have prioritized Sugarcane and Rice , So cotton is being Imported

You should watch Dr Kaiser Bengali' s videos on Youtube to better understand the situation

PS : He is a Pakistani Economist

 

[BananaRepublic]

Are you aware of Pakistan’s Water problems

They have to grow 3 Water Intensive crops.

Sugarcane , Rice and Cotton

And now They have prioritized Sugarcane and Rice , So cotton is being Imported

You should watch Dr Kaiser Bengali' s videos on Youtube to better understand the situation

PS : He is a Pakistani Economist

That’s an excellent point. Pakistan has one of the lowest fresh water reserves in the world.

Pakistani basmati rice is excellent and is big abroad - they are making good money from it. For them to diversify away from rice - would mean cotton price and demand has to go up by a lot.

There’s a ceiling price for cotton due to competition from synthetics.

Hence, I don’t think there’s much scope for significant export of cotton.

@Michael Corleone China has built quite a few power stations for them - so don’t think energy is an issue. They also enjoy more favourable trade terms in US compared to BD.

Yes, auto spares is a good area. But if Pakistan could clone them to same quality - why can’t BD?

 

[UKBengali]

That’s an excellent point. Pakistan has one of the lowest fresh water reserves in the world.

Pakistani basmati rice is excellent and is big abroad - they are making good money from it. For them to diversify away from rice - would mean cotton price and demand has to go up by a lot.

There’s a ceiling price for cotton due to competition from synthetics.

Hence, I don’t think there’s much scope for significant export of cotton.

@Michael Corleone China has built quite a few power stations for them - so don’t think energy is an issue. They also enjoy more favourable trade terms in US compared to BD.

Yes, auto spares is a good area. But if Pakistan could clone them to same quality - why can’t BD?

Pakistani cotton yields have been falling over many years and that can be reversed with some government support.

The point I am trying to make is that Pakistan can with some effort expand its exports to BD over next 5-10 years to many billions of US dollars a year.

Now that Hasina/AL is gone, Pakistan would feel more confident to really see BD as a large market where its products would be treated the same as Indian ones.

Pakistani agriculture and BD growing industrial and consumer needs can be a good match. Of course India would always be many folds more in trade.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@UKBengali

UKB Dada,

Pakistani cotton yields have been falling over many years and that can be reversed with some government support.

If my Pakistani brethren are to be believed their rulers- Pak Fauj- is more busy making p**n videos of opposition leaders and shutting down the internet than investing in the economy.

Whatever be the case, Pak needs to invest in its agriculture and it is immaterial whether BD is a destination or not.

Regards

 

[UKBengali]

@UKBengali

UKB Dada,

Pakistani cotton yields have been falling over many years and that can be reversed with some government support.

If my Pakistani brethren are to be believed their rulers- Pak Fauj- is more busy making p**n videos of opposition leaders and shutting down the internet than investing in the economy.

Whatever be the case, Pak needs to invest in its agriculture and it is immaterial whether BD is a destination or not.

Regards

Only a few countries in the world are large importers of cotton and BD is one of them due to its large garments industry.

I agree with the rest of your post.

 

[BananaRepublic]

@UKBengali

UKB Dada,

Pakistani cotton yields have been falling over many years and that can be reversed with some government support.

If my Pakistani brethren are to be believed their rulers- Pak Fauj- is more busy making p**n videos of opposition leaders and shutting down the internet than investing in the economy.

Whatever be the case, Pak needs to invest in its agriculture and it is immaterial whether BD is a destination or not.

Regards

I just don’t understand @UKBengali on this. Emotion is driving his assertions lol

Pakistan has huge export markets in China and Middle East. And it’s own domestic needs.

Those are far more compelling than the lore of BD market - which they think is not big anyway - given how Hasina has allegedly manipulated GDP and export numbers lol lol

If they had the capacity to expand - they would have done it already.

Hasina, the bogey-woman, wasn’t holding them back!

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@BananaRepublic

Kola bhai,

You cannot run away from geography.

1. Pak and IND will often produce the same goods, because large parts of both countries have similar geographies
2. IND is geographically closer to BD, both by land, air and sea. Just look up the map
3. IND has a headstart in both productivity and logistics development (for reasons which are beyond the scope of this thread).

Short of BD choosing to strain its reserves to pay for Pak goods at higher prices, or Pak straining its reserves to subsidise its exports to a brotherly South Asian Muslim country, IND will always score over Pak.

That said, PAK and BD must get over the past and re-establish friendly ties because that is the right thing to do.

Regards

 

[BananaRepublic]

@BananaRepublic

Kola bhai,

You cannot run away from geography.

1. Pak and IND will often produce the same goods, because large parts of both countries have similar geographies
2. IND is geographically closer to BD, both by land, air and sea. Just look up the map
3. IND has a headstart in both productivity and logistics development (for reasons which are beyond the scope of this thread).

Short of BD choosing to strain its reserves to pay for Pak goods at higher prices, or Pak straining its reserves to subsidise its exports to a brotherly South Asian Muslim country, IND will always score over Pak.

That said, PAK and BD must get over the past and re-establish friendly ties because that is the right thing to do.

Regards

In addition, with massive population growth and lack of female Labour participation - Pakistan has a struggle to increase its yield to feed its own people.

 

[ghazi52]

DP World and NLC have carried over 1,000 containers since the start of the first direct shipping route between Pakistan and Bangladesh in October 2024.

The most recent consignment onboard the MV Yuan Xiang Fa Zhan left Karachi and is scheduled to arrive at Bangladesh’s Chittagong Port on 11 January with a range of items, including industrial raw materials, agricultural products, and textile fabrics, demonstrating the service’s importance in facilitating regional commerce.

 

[Michael Corleone]

@Michael Corleone China has built quite a few power stations for them - so don’t think energy is an issue. They also enjoy more favourable trade terms in US compared to BD.

I really don’t know what exactly effects their power generation for Pakistan but they lost their 2nd place to us because of this issue and even now when I see some YouTube vlogs, and accounts from my Pakistani friends… there’s often reports of loadsheddings lasting 24-48 hours on repetition.