Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

I feel like the sudden shift in narratives from Indian media as well as the Intl. Media is a ceasefire condition for a face saving for India. “Thori to ijjat rakhle meri”
Don't know why we seem to have this inferiority complex that we need to worry about offending india's "honour", as if they have any in the first place. Everyone seems to think that's the only reason for the ceasefire. How very sad.
 
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Amazing how insecure they are towards Pakistan.

Now imagine what their mental state will be like when Pakistan becomes 1st world.

Their asses will be on fire just like the afghandus.
 
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Is it true?



Apparantly Indonesians have already paid for these planes with no cancellation provisions so like their F 16s that ended up rotting and decaying in hangers they will continue the tradition by hiding their Rafael in hangers as well.


 
There was chatter about C-130 being damaged which is true, there was another chatter of a F-16 being damaged as well, i don't know if it's true or not
C-130 was damaged at Nur Khan Air Base when the cowards attacked at nite.

This is a nation that is obsessed with attacking at nite, quite possibly because they can't laid/lucky at those hours.

As for the Viper. The wet dream of shooting down a Viper will remain a dream, so they tried hitting one on round. Still unsuccessful.
 
6 s claimed by Pakistan

Neutral (foreign) government level and media sources have confirmed 3.

OSInt backed visual evidence have shown at least 4 different crash sites.

1 is confirmed to be rafale, 1 is confirmed to be a Mirage, 1 was only recently confirmed to be a Su30MKI. The final one is still up in the air, as the wreckage shows it could either be a sukhoi or a mig (most likely a mig in my opinion).
I can show you one screenshot which I took myself when live news was being shown
Now I can't find the video. It's a mig 29.
India is actively removing evidence online.
 
There is also the long held belief here that these LeT, JeM etc guys are asymmetric warfare tools of the Pak mil.

Those alleged indoctrination centers/seminaries got hit hard, the airbases attacks were more messaging than a real assault.

Of course, we keep scaling this ladder and eventually find ourselves in a good old proper war. We should all wish for things to not go that far.
non-sense!
sadly, paints very dismal picture of your mindset. It is very common in every household to get some kind of teaching (quran/fiqh/hadees) from these seminaries.
I am more worried about you total intentional ignornance towards '71 (mukti) and '47 (Indian Kashmir Invasion).

If we cant speak the truth, then, there is never going to be peace.
You sound like Javed Akhtar, who lives in his own barbie world.
 
ISPR has been transparent in their damage assessment.

A few airbases and airports were cratered with Bholari AFB hit with casualties and a SAAB 2000 AWACs suffering minor damage.

Time for India to come clean on 3 aircrafts down (reported by The Hindu with photo evidence) and another 3 jets down with videos on social media.

And the airbases, Brahmos facility being hit. And finally the S400 cheese board.

But can totally understand if they don’t. The truth will come out in the following weeks, just like when Balakot happened.


ISPR NEVER said that....Please do not add lies and false narrative...."a SAAB 2000 AWACs suffering minor damage."

The hanger that was hit and we suffered losses was built for Drones and not for a huge aircraft like SAAB.
 
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What Rabia Akhtar just said is the absolute crux of the matter.

Intellectual discourse and self reflection sacrificed at the altar of paranoia fuelled nationalism. This is descending into a Stalin-esque purge fuelled by fear of critique and paranoia driven inferiority complexes.

None of it is actually surprising.

We have discussed on these very pages that the smokescreen of "national security" being touted by the hindutva echo chamber is easy enough to see right through once our perspective is taken from any locus outside the echo chamber - it is simple discrimination against soft targets.
 
being a person who grew up and saw 80s and 90s of Karachi, i exactly know how and what a cult can be, heck when i was young i used to be excited and used to follow a set narrative, difference is my line always was/is Pakistan

Is it so? I wanst far from the incident of Bushra Zaidi, have seen the worst from own eyes, used to travel by bus in my student days in Karachi, the bus I was travelling in was fired upon.

That was cult what I saw back in the days. People's will all across Pakistan, from Karachi to Khyber, is what democracy looks like.
 
Amazing how insecure they are towards Pakistan.

Now imagine what their mental state will be like when Pakistan becomes 1st world.

Their asses will be on fire just like the afghandus.
They are absolutely insecure and this is something Pakistan has missed. Its not only a huge opportunity for psyops in military domain....but outside the military domain, if Pakistan can just be politically stable and economically strong, that alone will deter Indians. This type of battle can be won in the mind alone.

I'm not saying become another Israel, but borrow a page from their book. They have used propaganda and psyops to convince majority Arabs that resisting Israel is hopeless, impossible and exhausting. Thats why most Arabs now ignore Palestine and just focus on making money.
 

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