Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[German Angst]

Let's cool it now.

Hopefully Israelis begin to become more rational also having experienced real TERROR.

Also, ask yourself if you were born into that society, how would you turn out? Most of us would oblige with the status quo...



Imagine being that child.
It's a sad state of affairs.

You are right but it is so funny reading that while seeing your profile picture

 

[mangekyo]

Instead of looking inward, Iran must develop and strengthen the Axis of Resistance as well as expand it in addition to its own economic and military development. Secondly, they should develop linkages and joint programs with Sunni resistance movements like Hamas.

Which resistance? Hezbollah said it’s not in their interest to fight, offered 0 support. Iraqi resistance were completely absent. Only one who offered support was Houthi

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Trump pissed off with Israel

 

[PakAl]

If we use unclassified CENTCOM data then Iran had 3000 ballistic missiles in 2020 up from 1000 missiles in 2010 indicating annual production rate of 200 missiles per year.

At this rate of production Iran had to produce another 1000 missiles between 2020 and 2025 bringing the total size of its arsenal to 4000 missiles.

Of these 4000 missiles, 150 missiles have been launched during Operation True Promise 1 and True Promise 2 and another 550 missiles during the recent war.

So Iranian missile arsenal at this moment might be around 3300 missiles left of which probably 1300 missiles are short range and 2000 missiles are long range and can reach Israel.

Of these 550 missiles fired most were old liquid fuel missiles produced between 2003 and 2010 with the age between 22-15 years.

Unclassified reports claim after October 2024 Iran produced 50 ballistic missiles per month or 600 missiles per year.

Short range missiles should be phased out and Iran should bring the total arsenal of its long range ballistic missiles (Khaybarshekan) to 12.000 missiles by 2035 in case if Iran has to fight a coalition of US+Israel+Saudi Arabia+UAE+UK+France+Turkey.

To achieve that, Iran must produce 10.000 missiles in the next 10 years or 1000 missiles per year or 83 missiles per month.

1000 Khaybarshekan missiles per year at an average cost of 1mln$ per unit means Iran must spend 1bln$ per year on ballistic missiles.

After this war, Iran should increase its military spendings to minimum 4,5-5% of GDP.

What about the claim of 100,000 ballistic missiles? This seems too less. Iran needs atleast 10,000 missiles ready to defend itself, if only Iranian multiple rocket launchers could reach Israel.

 

[Cash gk]

@Musings your favorite

 

[Trailer23]

They aren’t willing to sell. At least they haven’t in the past and I don’t see that changing anytime soon

Now would be a good time to use the Pakistan card...

Lord knows what good the Iran-India friendship has gotten you guys out of this War - other than a bunch of spies.

I think China gets a lot of Oil from Iran.

 

[El Sidd]

I cannot take another week of who requested who for whose ceasefire.

 

[tsunset]

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

I have been in Afghanistan few times, and yes, many are ready to do anything for 200$...that's wealthy sum for them...ircg employed a lot of them, I thing that only "real" proxy unit of IRGC is afagani-based...

Clear now how mossad so much penetrated IRGC and how proud Iranians are selling themselves for few hundreds % ...

It will not be easy cleaning-house process; but all traitors must be neutralized...

When nepotism and corruption is allowed to increase by our dear leader and thiefs like shamkhani and ghalibaf, it's very easy for mossad to enter the game.
I've been saying this for more than 10 years. This system always runs behind the facts, passive, never pro-active. Bunch of clerical thugs put in certain positions instead of fierce nationalists and technocrats.
Same reason for losing Syria to bunch of terrorists.

 

[ShapurII]

Which resistance? Hezbollah said it’s not in their interest to fight, offered 0 support. Iraqi resistance were completely absent. Only one who offered support was Houthi

Hezbollah betrayed us. It's time to throw them under the bus.
Not only Iraqi resistance did nothing, but the Iraqi sky was like an 8-lane expressway for the Israeli Air Force to move back and forth from Israel to Iran. They exerted zero pressure on their government for this.
Hamas and Palestinians stayed away completely. This could've been an opportunity for a new intifada. We could've hit Israel's anti-riot and police forces to help them, but the Palestinians were unwilling to participate in the war, it seems. Hamas didn't even fire rockets during the war. I don't blame the Palestinians though, they've been through a lot in the last 2 years, but they missed an opportunity.

Only the Houthies of Yemen proved to be at least potentially useful, even though one could argue that they didn't do much besides firing a single missile (maybe two?) during the war, but still, they showed willingness to help us. That's more than what the other members of the so-called "Axis of Resistance" did.

 

[mangekyo]

Hezbollah betrayed us. It's time to throw them under the bus.
Not only Iraqi resistance did nothing, but the Iraqi sky was like an 8-lane expressway for the Israeli Air Force to move back and forth from Israel to Iran. They exerted zero pressure on their government for this.
Hamas and Palestinians stayed away completely. This could've been an opportunity for a new intifada. We could've hit Israel's anti-riot and police forces to help them, but the Palestinians were unwilling to participate in the war, it seems. Hamas didn't even fire rockets during the war. I don't blame the Palestinians though, they've been through a lot in the last 2 years, but they missed an opportunity.

Only the Houthies of Yemen proved to be at least potentially useful, even though one could argue that they didn't do much besides firing a single missile (maybe two?) during the war, but still, they showed willingness to help us. That's more than what other so-called "Axis of Resistance" did.

Hezbollah, HAMAS and Iraqis thought we would lose the war and saw no reason to join the «losing side»

 

[vmro]

You misunderstood the zionist, they are testing the waters. The only issue was they faced big opposition from China, Pakistan, Algeria for a full invasion and regime change. They will be back and Iran needs to make to be ready.

Iran didn't go out of control and avoid internal fracture, Trump not impress them with proposal etc...

So in this case, first and foremost Iranian people preserved and keep their country's integrity

 

[OldTwilight]

Guys dont forget what Trump said last week when asked why he didn't ask Israel to cease fire he said you don't ask a winning side to ceasefire when they winning. So one can only assume israel was losing for Trump to ask for ceasefire

People tend to forget that Iran is country and has infrastructure and people who want to live their lives ...
Most countries don't even dare to say a polite "No" to USA and want Iran to fight with entirety of NATO and lose its infrastructure and a generation of its people lives to be ruined ....

we don't need to prove ourselves to anyone ... no one directly helped us in this conflict, we were on our own, we have to make hard and harsh decision ....

We just need be cautious and rebuild our strength from this moment ...

 

[ShapurII]

Hezbollah, HAMAS and Iraqis thought we would lose the war and so no reason to join the «losing side»

They just don't want to risk what they have for "Persians" or Iran.
@Persian Gulf and I talked about this thoroughly a few days before the war. Little did we know that I would be proven right just a few days later.

We have spent nearly 50 billion dollars in the region in a span of 15 years, enough for over 400 modern gen 4+ jet fighters. Imagine what 400 gen. 4 jet fighters would've done for us in this war, and what all these groups combined did for us.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

People tend to forget that Iran is country and has infrastructure and people who want to live their lives ...
Most countries don't even dare to say a polite "No" to USA and want Iran to fight with entirety of NATO and lose its infrastructure and a generation of its people lives to be ruined ....

we don't need to prove ourselves to anyone ... no one directly helped us in this conflict, we were on our own, we have to make hard and harsh decision ....

We just need be cautious and rebuild our strength from this moment ...

Some mossad thugs in the system will promote fierce islamism and horrible laws to destroy the economy (like the different dollar rates to steal subsidies massively), subsidized fuel etc.