Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Unnecessary , country should have full control of all Defence matters

The idea to move the enrichment to another country makes no sense
Should continue to develop in house capabilities
 
BBC, the propaganda arm of the British, interviews the former prime minister, who claims that it was Israel's strategic patience that paused to give Iran time to reconsider. You have analysts like Scott Ritter, Prof Mearsheimer, and people like Steve Bannon saying Trump had to step in to save Israel. Who is telling the truth?
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FUB said:
BBC, the propaganda arm of the British, interviews the former prime minister, who claims that it was Israel's strategic patience that paused to give Iran time to reconsider. You have analysts like Scott Ritter, Prof Mearsheimer, and people like Steve Bannon saying Trump had to step in to save Israel. Who is telling the truth?
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Just remember that Netanyahu, on the first day of war, said that the war would last for 12 days. So, that should tell you everything you need to know.
 
ShapurII said:
Just remember that Netanyahu, on the first day of war, said that the war would last for 12 days. So, that should tell you everything you need to know.
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So, you agree with what the former PM is saying? Where is that quote from Netanyaboo? I remember him asking the people to rise, and Reza Pahlavi had packed his bags ready to land, but it did not turn out that way.
 
FUB said:
So, you agree with what the former PM is saying? Where is that quote from Netanyaboo? I remember him asking the people to rise, and Reza Pahlavi had packed his bags ready to land, but it did not turn out that way.
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They really (for real) expected Iran to total surrender on day 3

The name of the operation says enough about what were their intentions
 
Back to Pezeshkian. Either the entire establishment is incompetent in Iran, or something else is going on. He is begging in his interview. This clip is saying the opposite. So which is it? Iran does not want to fight an Afghan-style war for 20 years, Afghan style. We all know that Israel, without the US, can not win. You can look at 1973 with Egypt. They were losing until the US came and flipped the script.
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Nuffle said:
What's the point in that? Doesn't Iran have capable SAM systems?

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Iran does have capable SAMs, but struggle to produce them in significant number, especially the long range ones like Bavar-373 and its latest missile configuration. The number of active Bavar pre-war was thought to be 1 battery but no conclusive satellite image shown it was operational

Mixing SAM systems from various country is useful

Just like China does with HQ-9 and S-400
 
Clearly these two countries China and Russia have much more inside info about Iran and do not want to help Iran for some very good reasons.

For those you do not know, Iranian Revolution came FROM PARIS where Ayatollah Khomeini conveniently lived. Yep apparently French were love with Islam and wanted it to spread to Iran and suported it wholeheartedly. :rolleyes:
 
A big chunk of the Jews in occupied Palestine are former Russians - never expect the Russians to take sides against them.
 
FUB said:
This account never provides any links to what he posts.
Here is the full article from Reuters. It does not mention zero enrichment.

Russia says it's ready to remove highly enriched uranium from Iran​

MOSCOW, June 11 (Reuters) - Russia said on Wednesday it stood ready to remove highly enriched uranium from Iran and convert it into civilian reactor fuel as a potential way to help narrow U.S.-Iranian differences over the Islamic Republic's nuclear programme.
Tehran says it has the right to peaceful nuclear power, but its swiftly-advancing uranium enrichment programme has raised fears in the wider West and across the Gulf that it wants to develop a nuclear weapon.

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Reuters.......... so much for indépendant sources......you may also quote Radio Free Europe, AFP, wall Street journal, etc...
 
RealNapster said:
Iran had very limited numbers of Kheyber missiles it seems. Thats why they were firing one or two of these missiles in a salvo of 40. I believe Iran need to quickly manufacture many of these. As Israelis systems were unable to intercept these missiles and out of the. 3-4 Kheyber missiles fired, all hit targets.

I know Iran still have hundreds of older generation missiles. But if it can fire 20 Kheyber missiles in a salvo of 100 with 80 older generation ones. I don't believe Israel will be able to do much.

Also, now is the time for Iran to take help. Take satellite help from China and other sources if you got. And identify targets throughout the Israel. 100+ ready to be fired on targets. As we all witnessed in recent war that Iran had 6-7 targets only where they were striking, and occasional 1-2 missiles on other targets. While Israel targeted 100+ targets throughout Iran.
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Kheybar was first unveiled in 2022, it has a very good production rate for such a recent missile. But it is the go-to missile for hitting Israel, it was made solely for that reason

If we trust Iran, Iran says that they first fired the old liquid missiles (Shahab-3, Ghadr, Emad) and put in the mix some Kheibar or Fattah for the last ones of the salvo
 
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