Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[FUB]

Just remember that Netanyahu, on the first day of war, said that the war would last for 12 days. So, that should tell you everything you need to know.

So, you agree with what the former PM is saying? Where is that quote from Netanyaboo? I remember him asking the people to rise, and Reza Pahlavi had packed his bags ready to land, but it did not turn out that way.

 

[tsunset]

So, you agree with what the former PM is saying? Where is that quote from Netanyaboo? I remember him asking the people to rise, and Reza Pahlavi had packed his bags ready to land, but it did not turn out that way.

They really (for real) expected Iran to total surrender on day 3

The name of the operation says enough about what were their intentions

 

[FUB]

Back to Pezeshkian. Either the entire establishment is incompetent in Iran, or something else is going on. He is begging in his interview. This clip is saying the opposite. So which is it? Iran does not want to fight an Afghan-style war for 20 years, Afghan style. We all know that Israel, without the US, can not win. You can look at 1973 with Egypt. They were losing until the US came and flipped the script.

 

[tsunset]

What's the point in that? Doesn't Iran have capable SAM systems?

@Persian Gulf @Emirzad @Immortals

Iran does have capable SAMs, but struggle to produce them in significant number, especially the long range ones like Bavar-373 and its latest missile configuration. The number of active Bavar pre-war was thought to be 1 battery but no conclusive satellite image shown it was operational

Mixing SAM systems from various country is useful

Just like China does with HQ-9 and S-400

 

[ARMalik]

Clearly these two countries China and Russia have much more inside info about Iran and do not want to help Iran for some very good reasons.

For those you do not know, Iranian Revolution came FROM PARIS where Ayatollah Khomeini conveniently lived. Yep apparently French were love with Islam and wanted it to spread to Iran and suported it wholeheartedly.

 

[313Ghazi]

A big chunk of the Jews in occupied Palestine are former Russians - never expect the Russians to take sides against them.

 

[StrategicBear]

This is what a Russian military expert said about Shahed drones recently.

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Iranian drones suck?

 

[Arash]

Iran International journalist and former Mossad asset

Journalist for Gay Magazine ?

 

[StrategicBear]

Russians will always stick with other White Supremacists to betray non-European countries...

 

[Arash]

This account never provides any links to what he posts.
Here is the full article from Reuters. It does not mention zero enrichment.

Russia says it's ready to remove highly enriched uranium from Iran​

MOSCOW, June 11 (Reuters) - Russia said on Wednesday it stood ready to remove highly enriched uranium from Iran and convert it into civilian reactor fuel as a potential way to help narrow U.S.-Iranian differences over the Islamic Republic's nuclear programme.
Tehran says it has the right to peaceful nuclear power, but its swiftly-advancing uranium enrichment programme has raised fears in the wider West and across the Gulf that it wants to develop a nuclear weapon.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-it-is-ready-remove-excess-nuclear-materials-iran-2025-06-11/

Reuters.......... so much for indépendant sources......you may also quote Radio Free Europe, AFP, wall Street journal, etc...

 

[tsunset]

Iran had very limited numbers of Kheyber missiles it seems. Thats why they were firing one or two of these missiles in a salvo of 40. I believe Iran need to quickly manufacture many of these. As Israelis systems were unable to intercept these missiles and out of the. 3-4 Kheyber missiles fired, all hit targets.

I know Iran still have hundreds of older generation missiles. But if it can fire 20 Kheyber missiles in a salvo of 100 with 80 older generation ones. I don't believe Israel will be able to do much.

Also, now is the time for Iran to take help. Take satellite help from China and other sources if you got. And identify targets throughout the Israel. 100+ ready to be fired on targets. As we all witnessed in recent war that Iran had 6-7 targets only where they were striking, and occasional 1-2 missiles on other targets. While Israel targeted 100+ targets throughout Iran.

Kheybar was first unveiled in 2022, it has a very good production rate for such a recent missile. But it is the go-to missile for hitting Israel, it was made solely for that reason

If we trust Iran, Iran says that they first fired the old liquid missiles (Shahab-3, Ghadr, Emad) and put in the mix some Kheibar or Fattah for the last ones of the salvo

 

[ShapurII]

So, you agree with what the former PM is saying? Where is that quote from Netanyaboo? I remember him asking the people to rise, and Reza Pahlavi had packed his bags ready to land, but it did not turn out that way.

Yes, I agree with Ehud Olmert on this particular issue. Israel had planned for 12 days and asked for ceasefire exactly when they wanted. Israel was obviously better prepared for the war as well.

Olmert says that Israelis didn't leave their large cities but that's only because they had bunkers. And most people in Tehran, or other large cities of Iran, did not leave their homes either.

The funny thing is, now that I'm looking for this 12-day claim, I cannot find it anymore. But everyone here remembers that they had said the operation would take 12-14 days from the very first day of the war. Even Iran International had repeated this multiple times during the war. It's weird that it has been completely censored now.

 

[Shags101]

Makes it even worse that the surprise attack came over months while Israeli operatives were inside the country with Iranian intelligence not even aware than for them to takeout many of their best air defenses so quickly and quite a few other targets showed the Iranians didn’t learn anything from what occurred with Hezbollah they either were totally incompetent or had more than quite a few people turning a blind eye for cash

 

[Watandar]

But I think what pushed USA to cause ceasefire was two Chinese cargo planes that landed in Iran.
What was inside?

Equipment to switch to Chinese GPS and communications equipment that Israel could not compromise.

Israel has been focused on Iran for many years and compromised almost all of its communications. This hurt Hezbollah and Houthis as well with reports Houthis were rapidly replacing all iranian origin communications stuff.

 

[Hack-Hook]

We had 2 choice :

1- Buying J10A with cash and without any joint production and without ability to upgrade fighter and doing any change in subsystems unless China gave permission (they even didn't let us Upgrade J7s)...
2- Buying Su35 without paying in cash and with Joint Production and with full control on subsystems and platform ...

Well , the choice is obvious ...

Side note: we have history of being first or one of first customer(s) of many Chinese products, from their cars to Oil Tanker ( in fact they started their Oil Tanker production by getting first orders from Iran ).
In all case after using Iran as test subject, they ditched Iran when they got more advanced and found new market or customer and didn't sell their goods to us anymore ... Their best car makers stop doing business with us after they used Iran as test subject and gained experienced in Iran, the moment they could enter new markets they stop business with us completely , their Cellphone makers did some to us and even right now they don't allow Iranians to even create an account for their Cellphone while even South Korea and USA allow Iranian to make account in their platforms!!!

third choice Was to spend the Money to develop indigenous platform