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PAF J-10CE News, Updates and Discussion
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Toxic
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Is this real? Looks a bit AI
Rational Philosopher
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Now that I look back at it, it does look fake. But the person who sent it to me said it was real. It could be because of low quality.
Scorpio
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Any Idea of PL17 (PL21) integration possibility with J10C..
If yes then what are chances of PAF J10s with have this integration and availability of Pl 17 .....
IMO of PAF if have this option, then that can wait for J35s maturity and availability as well.. ....
Plus can counter Indian new induction possibilities of long rang BRVs from Israel and Russia to counter PAF ...
Will reduce ... potential threat to our AWACS and EW , instead convert this thread towards India..
If yes then what are chances of PAF J10s with have this integration and availability of Pl 17 .....
IMO of PAF if have this option, then that can wait for J35s maturity and availability as well.. ....
Plus can counter Indian new induction possibilities of long rang BRVs from Israel and Russia to counter PAF ...
Will reduce ... potential threat to our AWACS and EW , instead convert this thread towards India..
MH.Yang
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For the time being, there are only photos of J-16s carrying these missiles. As for the J-10C, it may have to wait for a technology upgrade.
These missiles are too long to fit in the J-35 and J-20's magazines, but the 6G fighter's magazines should work. Of course, that is just a guess just out of the size of the 6G fighter.
Windjammer
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To India with love ... Look at the sizes of those weapons.
RajaBaja
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Back in the day, it used to be PDF and then something else. I used to champion this SAME idea. That Pakistan should build JF-17 in immediate needed numbers to build a low cost, high effect back-bone for 24-7 CAP mission / workhorse stuff.
And later, Pakistan should start production of J-10C (back then there was no CE even as C was about to come out). Since it's a medium tier jet, after a couple of blocks, a stealth project could've been started for evaluation to build a stealthier version of J-10C's future blocks. That would've been much easier to do, and done in block steps vs. big jumps for industry maturity. That would've retired our Mirages and F-7's with replacement having 4.5 gen capability and kept our JF-17 a workhorse with PL-15 like state of the art capability.
My analysis back then included the fact that as India grows, it will definitely domiss-adventures. That happaned in 2019 and 2025.
That SAME analysis is still valid today. @MastanKhan - Do you remember debating on the above? No one liked that theory back then. If you research J-20 on some aerodynamic system, you will find that it's smaller dimensions can bring it near J-10C size. The Chinese can create a single engine stealth design that we can develop locally.
NGAD IS THE BEST
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Na, PL-17 is not for J-10C which is a medium weight jet, PL-17 is for heavy weight jets like J-10C So its useless to integrate PL-17 on J-10C
Psyko70
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Like r37 missile?
says who...?
lo is not just take part -> make pointy.
'modifying' a design to be 'stealthy' is not the "easier" route to take.
VLO designs are baked deep into the fundamental design/structure.
NGAD IS THE BEST
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Yes like Su-35/R-37M combo
RajaBaja
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Ok. Its clear how much you know about airframe design! If we can build a JF-17's stealthy version, what on earth makes you think we can't do that with J-10C's canard design where J-20's canard design can easily be reduced to fit? In fact, you might see a stealthy design by the PAF based on J-20 like canards and J-20 cross with J-10.
NGAD IS THE BEST
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It's takes lots of time to develop stealth version of JF-17 we will have to re-design whole it from nose to tail
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