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The 25% additional secondary tariffs are primarily on Russia and secondarily on India. If the primary condition that Russia demonstrate enough commitment towards a peace deal is fulfilled, then the underlying reason for imposing these sanctions would itself not exist. If the primary condition is not fulfilled, then India , and potentially others, can still avoid them by demonstrating a commitment not to buy Russian oil. There are a lot of possible scenarios including an extension of the timeline. Even if the additional tariffs are levied, they can be negotiated. Don't count any chickens before October.

Lots of ifs and hope in there. Right now India is paying the highest tarriffs in South Asia at 25%. That is a fact. 25% will be added in 9 days, that is a fact. US Trade delegation visit to India called off, that is a fact.

Sure, things can change, like they can for anyone. So yes, I guess you better hope circumstances change quickly. You are relying on possibilities, not facts.
 
Absolutely incorrect.

F-35s have been banned for sale to pretty much all of South America, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, Turkey in addition to the Mid East.
The fact the UK and US went on full security mod when one landed in India on a technical tells you everything.
It is only sold to very close US allies.

Right now, with the way the relationship is going, I sincerely doubt US will sell any modern platforms to India right now
The combination of ignorance and arrogance is always amusing. There is no list of countries that are banned from buying the F-35. There is only a list of countries that Congress has approved. Typically Congressional approved is requested by the Administration after it has determined it is not against American interests. China and allies of China will obviously not be approved and none are likely to be interested, in any case. There has been bipartisan support for the strategic relationship with India for decades now. If the request is made, it is unlikely not to be approved unless, like I said earlier, India has gone over to the Chinese camp. The US benefits from $$, jobs and significant leverage over India since the latter will now be dependent on the US for repairs, maintenance and armaments.
 
Lots of ifs and hope in there. Right now India is paying the highest tarriffs in South Asia at 25%. That is a fact. 25% will be added in 9 days, that is a fact. US Trade delegation visit to India called off, that is a fact.

Sure, things can change, like they can for anyone. So yes, I guess you better hope circumstances change quickly. You are relying on possibilities, not facts.
India's base tariff is set at 25% because they have not made any trade concessions . Afghanistan has the lowest rate in South Asia , but that is because they are economically insignificant. All other countries of any significance that have rates lower than India have made significant trade concessions that India has refused to make. China, Canada, Mexico and Switzerland among others have even higher rates than India and for the same reason. They have all not signed on the dotted line yet. Like I said, wait till October before you count your chickens.
 
The combination of ignorance and arrogance is always amusing. There is no list of countries that are banned from buying the F-35. There is only a list of countries that Congress has approved. Typically Congressional approved is requested by the Administration after it has determined it is not against American interests. China and allies of China will obviously not be approved and none are likely to be interested, in any case. There has been bipartisan support for the strategic relationship with India for decades now. If the request is made, it is unlikely not to be approved unless, like I said earlier, India has gone over to the Chinese camp. The US benefits from $$, jobs and significant leverage over India since the latter will now be dependent on the US for repairs, maintenance and armaments.

You talk of ignorance and arrogance. Maybe a little self reflection needed here?
If US could happily kick out Turkiye with it's 100 jet order and deny UAE a massive F-35 deal, what makes you think Indian money is better? This is the constant delusion about your position in the world and how important you think your spend is. It os the same attitude now that finds Modi and Jaishankar running around to any global capital that will have them knowing they get a cold shoulder in Beijing and Washington.
It is the same attitude that despite billions on Rafale, Scorpene and Mirage 2000 upgrades the French have ensured you still cannot make a fighter engine or sub by yourself with their tech, despite the "ToT' you are shouting about.
It is the same attitude that despite India spending literally Billions on European defence products, Pakistan can still go out and buy CAMM-ER or Erieye.
Right now US gains more from screwing over India on tariffs then it will only any F-35 sale (of which they have a huge backlog of)

Time to start living in the real world now
 
India's base tariff is set at 25% because they have not made any trade concessions . Afghanistan has the lowest rate in South Asia , but that is because they are economically insignificant. All other countries of any significance that have rates lower than India have made significant trade concessions that India has refused to make. China, Canada, Mexico and Switzerland among others have even higher rates than India and for the same reason. They have all not signed on the dotted line yet. Like I said, wait till October before you count your chickens.

Well October can come and go, right now US trade delegation will not even fly to India, so admire your optimism, however misplaced it is

As you can imagine, this saga has all the makings of a Tejas delivery deadline.....
 
China buys more oil from Russia than India does, but will you see Pakistanis starting threads about that or moralizing about that? Oh noes, how can one criticize Big Daddy?

China doesn't use the US to curry favour and prevent them from building ties with other countries like Pakistan.

Just the other month Jaishankar was trying to lecture the americans on US soil how to treat them when in reality India trades freely with Russia and Iran and then demands geopolitical, economical and social benefits from the US and the western world which it is flooding with its people desperate to flee the 3rd world improvished poverty stricken filthy corrupt and immoral country of India.
 
You talk of ignorance and arrogance. Maybe a little self reflection needed here?
If US could happily kick out Turkiye with it's 100 jet order and deny UAE a massive F-35 deal, what makes you think Indian money is better? This is the constant delusion about your position in the world and how important you think your spend is. It os the same attitude now that finds Modi and Jaishankar running around to any global capital that will have them knowing they get a cold shoulder in Beijing and Washington.
It is the same attitude that despite billions on Rafale, Scorpene and Mirage 2000 upgrades the French have ensured you still cannot make a fighter engine or sub by yourself with their tech, despite the "ToT' you are shouting about.
It is the same attitude that despite India spending literally Billions on European defence products, Pakistan can still go out and buy CAMM-ER or Erieye.
Right now US gains more from screwing over India on tariffs then it will only any F-35 sale (of which they have a huge backlog of)

Time to start living in the real world now
I had already explained why Turkey and UAE would not get the planes, but it seems you were not able to comprehend the obvious. They are both in Israel's neck of the woods and the US is committed to ensuring that Israel always has a qualitative edge in its neighborhood.
 
I had already explained why Turkey and UAE would not get the planes, but it seems you were not able to comprehend the obvious. They are both in Israel's neck of the woods and the US is committed to ensuring that Israel always has a qualitative edge in its neighborhood.

Nope, the Turkiye issue had nothing to do with Israel,. Israel may not want them to get the plan, but US made it very clear, hand over the S-400s and you can get the F-35s.

Tragically for you, instead of believing your BS, the rest of us can read.....
 
Another day, another global demonstration of nationally institutionalised ineptitude.

Playing both sides with this ancient chanakiya mentality is formally defunct as a geopolitical strategy. It is pathetic seeing Indians constantly spinning this as "clever strategy to keep all parties pleased with them".

Russia, USA and China are not that stupid, that a supposedly mature and responsible nation has committed itself quite literally as an "ally" of one while also pretending to be an "ally" of others.



Yes, the nonsense has been ongoing since the Biden era, so the Dems had already cottoned on to these shenanigans. Trump is just being consistent and any accusation that he or his cabinet are somehow at fault for being substandard negotiators is merely a deflection from Indians by way of personal attacks on individuals.

American interests - in general and regardless of party politics - are not served by false alliances with immature nation states who think they can perpetually game the system.
 
Nope, the Turkiye issue had nothing to do with Israel,. Israel may not want them to get the plan, but US made it very clear, hand over the S-400s and you can get the F-35s.

Tragically for you, instead of believing your BS, the rest of us can read.....
And yet, the US has offered F-35s to India despite it buying the S-400s. I am sure you can read, but comprehension is something entirely different.
 
And yet, the US has offered F-35s to India despite it buying the S-400s. I am sure you can read, but comprehension is something entirely different.

No formal off has been made. It was alluded to.

Now that is off the table too.

India is left with French and Russian options. Neither of which are cutting edge. In Frances case, planes failed in combat
 
Another day, another global demonstration of nationally institutionalised ineptitude.

Playing both sides with this ancient chanakiya mentality is formally defunct as a geopolitical strategy. It is pathetic seeing Indians constantly spinning this as "clever strategy to keep all parties pleased with them".

Russia, USA and China are not that stupid, that a supposedly mature and responsible nation has committed itself quite literally as an "ally" of one while also pretending to be an "ally" of others.



Yes, the nonsense has been ongoing since the Biden era, so the Dems had already cottoned on to these shenanigans. Trump is just being consistent and any accusation that he or his cabinet are somehow at fault for being substandard negotiators is merely a deflection from Indians by way of personal attacks on individuals.

American interests - in general and regardless of party politics - are not served by false alliances with immature nation states who think they can perpetually game the system.
Funnily enough, exactly the same thing can be said about Pakistan's strategy, perhaps even more so.
 
you do understand that money is not a problem for us right? what you told is the reality of a country on India's west.

Ah the troll awakes!

Money is a problem for every military on earth. If it was not IAF would have more then just 36 (sorry, now 32) Rafales....
 
No formal off has been made. It was alluded to.

Now that is off the table too.

India is left with French and Russian options. Neither of which are cutting edge. In Frances case, planes failed in combat
Like I said, wait till October. You must be really naive if you think the whole charade with at least Canada, Mexico, the EU, Japan, South Korea and other countries was not about securing favorable trade deals. Why would you think it is any different with India ? Actually, I do know the answer to that, but I have already spent far more time indulging you than I should have. Enjoy your fantasies while they last.
 

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