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No, 4th gen were offered. F-35 was never offered or sent to India or even evaluated by Indian pilots. It was a no go.
Lockheed has never even mentioned India as a serious prospect.

Let us get over this fantasy.



 





From your own links

BBC

""paving the way", external for India to acquire F-35s, a jet primarily sold to close allies and partners."

Al Jezeera

"“We’re also paving the way to ultimately provide India with the F-35 stealth fighters,"

TWZ

"As to how realistic Trump’s F-35 offer is, that remains to be seen"


Thanks
 
F-35 has been dangled repeatedly - also the latest models of F-16, F-15 and F-18
IIRC, India had chosen the Rafale over the F-16 and F-18 and they are looking for a multi-role fighter, so the F-15 is out. The only fighter that the US can realistically hope to sell to India is the F-35, but they seem to want technology transfer, use of indigenous armaments and local production terms that the US does not usually entertain. If the deal happens at all, they will likely buy 2 or 3 squadrons off the shelf just to give the President a headline he can sell to his base.
 
@Terracotta Warrior

where did you get the data for rest of $3.43 trillion ?

Not sure but let me guess. I expect it to be something like the total exports + Remittances earned by IND from US in that period. According to Pakistani intellectuals, exports is the same as FDI.

Regards
 
China buys more oil from Russia than India does, but will you see Pakistanis starting threads about that or moralizing about that? Oh noes, how can one criticize Big Daddy?
 
@Terracotta Warrior

where did you get the data for rest of $3.43 trillion ?

Not sure but let me guess. I expect it to be something like the total exports + Remittances earned by IND from US in that period. According to Pakistani intellectuals, exports is the same as FDI.

Regards
even that will not add up to $3.5 trillion.. that dude must have some Illuminati level shit.. :)
 
IIRC, India had chosen the Rafale over the F-16 and F-18 and they are looking for a multi-role fighter, so the F-15 is out. The only fighter that the US can realistically hope to sell to India is the F-35, but they seem to want technology transfer, use of indigenous armaments and local production terms that the US does not usually entertain. If the deal happens at all, they will likely buy 2 or 3 squadrons off the shelf just to give the President a headline he can sell to his base.

Hope is not a strategy. India's inability to "get real": about global expectations is what has put the IAF in this mess.
 
You just made that up.
Trump himself has never said that.

Didn't they cancel trade talks with you just yesterday? It was reported all over the world media. Do you need more slaps on the face to realize the daddy is upset with the baby it raised with its trillions of dollars and nearly 10 million jobs?
 
Didn't they cancel trade talks with you just yesterday? It was reported all over the world media. Do you need more slaps on the face to realize the daddy is upset with the baby it raised with its trillions of dollars and nearly 10 million jobs?

Not just that, but India paying higher penalties then China on Russian oil. They are not just wacking India, they are laughing in their faces as they do it
 
Hope is not a strategy. India's inability to "get real": about global expectations is what has put the IAF in this mess.
I am not sure what to make of that inane statement, but from the US perspective, the F-35, unlike the F-22 or B-2, is not some cutting-edge platform. It can essentially be sold to any country willing to pay $$ that is not an enemy of the US and doesn't affect Israel's edge in the Middle East. Under the present strategic calculus, where India is still not in the Chinese camp, the only reason not to sell the plane to India, make $$ and support high-paying jobs in the US would be if Israel were to object, which is unlikely to happen given the relationship between India and Israel.

India has already either rejected ( F-16 and F-18) or is not interested in ( F-15) the other planes whose export is permitted . Assuming the US does want to sell fighter planes to India , which was definitely the case until at least a few weeks ago, the only viable candidate is the F-35. Of course, the other element to making the sale is India's willingness to buy them on terms the US is willing to sell them at.
 
Not just that, but India paying higher penalties then China on Russian oil. They are not just wacking India, they are laughing in their faces as they do it
The Russian oil tariffs have not been imposed yet. Given everything that is happening on the Ukraine front, it is far from clear they ever will be, but ultimately they are a leverage tool for obtaining a deal with India on favourable terms. Secretary Bessent, who you should really be following instead of the loony Navarro, has indicated an October timeline to wrap up the major outstanding deals with countries including India. The situation will be fluid until then.
 
I am not sure what to make of that inane statement, but from the US perspective, the F-35, unlike the F-22 or B-2, is not some cutting-edge platform. It can essentially be sold to any country willing to pay $$ that is not an enemy of the US and doesn't affect Israel's edge in the Middle East. Under the present strategic calculus, where India is still not in the Chinese camp, the only reason not to sell the plane to India, make $$ and support high-paying jobs in the US would be if Israel were to object, which is unlikely to happen given the relationship between India and Israel.

India has already either rejected ( F-16 and F-18) or is not interested in ( F-15) the other planes whose export is permitted . Assuming the US does want to sell fighter planes to India , which was definitely the case until at least a few weeks ago, the only viable candidate is the F-35. Of course, the other element to making the sale is India's willingness to buy them on terms the US is willing to sell them at.

Absolutely incorrect.

F-35s have been banned for sale to pretty much all of South America, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, Turkey in addition to the Mid East.
The fact the UK and US went on full security mod when one landed in India on a technical tells you everything.
It is only sold to very close US allies.

Right now, with the way the relationship is going, I sincerely doubt US will sell any modern platforms to India right now
 
The Russian oil tariffs have not been imposed yet. Given everything that is happening on the Ukraine front, it is far from clear they ever will be, but ultimately they are a leverage tool for obtaining a deal with India on favourable terms. Secretary Bessent, who you should really be following instead of the loony Navarro, has indicated an October timeline to wrap up the major outstanding deals with countries including India. The situation will be fluid until then.

25% imposed. Another 25% coming in 9 days. All trade talks have been called off.

Good luck.
 
25% imposed. Another 25% coming in 9 days. All trade talks have been called off.

Good luck.
The 25% additional secondary tariffs are primarily on Russia and secondarily on India. If the primary condition that Russia demonstrate enough commitment towards a peace deal is fulfilled, then the underlying reason for imposing these sanctions would itself not exist. If the primary condition is not fulfilled, then India , and potentially others, can still avoid them by demonstrating a commitment not to buy Russian oil. There are a lot of possible scenarios including an extension of the timeline. Even if the additional tariffs are levied, they can be negotiated. Don't count any chickens before October.
 

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