1st HANGOR Class Submarine of Pakistan Navy has been launched at Shuangliu

[maverick]

The tech transfer wouldn't cost $1 billion. China isn't transferring industrial capacity (like forging steel, diesel engine tech, etc) to Pakistan. The manufacturing at KSEW is being done through kits supplied by China. So, tech transfer is more about ensuring KSEW has the right tooling and facilities to support the program, nothing else.

The next PN submarine program - i.e., SWATS - could cost more per boat than the Hangor. Like the PN MILGEM program, the SWATS will involve a follow-on original project (i.e., submarine for replacing the PN's Agosta 90Bs). Now this project will involve serious transfer-of-technology so that the PN can use its choice of steel, propulsion, and other inputs.

Thats sucks, it sounds like the same Tech transfer of putting modular sub together as Agosta90B.

i do not consider it ToT.

 

[Quwa]

Thats sucks, it sounds like the same Tech transfer of putting modular sub together as Agosta90B.

i do not consider it ToT.

Yep, but some real know-how was transferred to the PN via the Agosta 90B, which the PN kept as best as it could (in lieu of new projects) via the NRDI.

 

[Admiral General Aladin]

First we have to do R&D for SSK from scratch than think of SSN or SSBN, there is no shortcut on any defense fields

He is a delusional guy.he doesn’t know the reality.what Pakistan is doing is the right step.you just can't built a SSK because some fanboys demanded it

 

[Admiral General Aladin]

We could buy at least 2 submarines in the same budget of that 8 subs we are procuring.

Yes.in your dream you can buy a lot of things.

 

[Admiral General Aladin]

Surface/Sub Fleet (Current/on active duty):

• 04 (FFGs) - F22Ps
• 04 (FFGs) - 054A/Ps
• 01 (FFGs) - OHP
• 01 (CORs) - Milgem (Commissioned but not yet joined the fleet)
• 02 (CORs) - Damen OPV design
• 03 (SSKs) - A90Bs (MLU-ed)

Surface/Sub Fleet (post 2025-30):

• 04 (FFGs) - F22Ps (will receive MLU)
• 04 (FFGs) - 054A/Ps
• 04 (FFGs) - Jinnah (2+2 batch, based on AS3400/3600 design)
• 04 (CORs) - Milgem
• 04 (CORs) - Damen OPV design
• 03 (SSKs) - A90Bs (MLU-ed)
• 08 (SSKs) - 039Bs

Surface/Sub Fleet (post 2030-35):

• 04 (FFGs) - F22Ps (MLU-ed)
• 04 (FFGs) - 054A/Ps
• 08 (FFGs) - Jinnah (2+6 batch, based on AS3400/3600 design)
• 04 (CORs) - Milgem
• 04 (CORs) - Damen OPV design
• 03 (SSKs) - A90Bs (MLU-ed)
• 08 (SSKs) - 039Bs
• 06 (SSK-Ns) - New upcoming Chines design
• 03 (SSPs) - Italian Design (S800)

You can also call type-39b as ssp.

 

[Bentley777]

India is not little, you idi***.they're 7 time larger than Pakistan.

Size of a country has nothing to do with it.

 

[Admiral General Aladin]

Ababeel can't carry 8 stop making things up bro, you are ruining the minds of newcomers

Sometimes i have doubt if this zarvan guy is mentally ok or not.any one can see the size of ababeel missile and can identify that it can carry mirv warheads.but not 8.it is not that big missile. It can't carry, 8 mirv warheads.

 

[Admiral General Aladin]

Size of a country has nothing to do with it.

Well.size does matter.india proved it all the times you went to war with them.

 

[Waz]

Well.size does matter.india proved it all the times you went to war with them.

Stalemated two wars and won one.
Now keep to the topic please.

 

[Bentley777]

Well.size does matter.india proved it all the times you went to war with them.

Where india came from topic of nuclear subs. size of country has nothing to with having nuclear subs its depends on your war doctrine and technology superiority and country economy . If size of country had something to do with nuclear subs both france uk wont have it they combine make pakistan total area.

 

[Admiral General Aladin]

Where india came from topic of nuclear subs. size of country has nothing to with having nuclear subs its depends on your war doctrine and technology superiority and country economy . If size of country had something to do with nuclear subs both france uk wont have it they combine make pakistan total area.

Well.Pakistan is economically too small compare to india.you just can't compete with india. If you want to compete with india,you have to be smart.thankfully,Pakistani establishment are thinking smartly.they’re not going for gun to gun with india.they're competing with india very smartly

 

[Admiral General Aladin]

Stalemated two wars and won one.
Now keep to the topic please.

Even with those stalemate war,initiative was on India's fever.

 

[Waz]

Even with those stalemate war,initiative was on India's fever.

No it wasn't and it's been discussed to death with plenty of writers references. Stay on topic now.

 

[Dalit]

Well.size does matter.india proved it all the times you went to war with them.

Share your flags. I don't trust you.

 

[Bentley777]

Well.Pakistan is economically too small compare to india.you just can't compete with india. If you want to compete with india,you have to be smart.thankfully,Pakistani establishment are thinking smartly.they’re not going for gun to gun with india.they're competing with india very smartly

Only pak can defeat pak by which i mean internally india is not even back of our mind pak need sustainability internally we will take care all rest of them external threats no need to worry.