As China Unleashes 80,000-Ton Fujian, India’s Ex-Naval Chief Wants France’s Help To Construct Nuke-Powered Aircraft Carrier

[Han Patriot]

In China, mllions were wiped out like animals just a few decades back because their own dictator did not consider them worthy enough for a grain of rice.

So save your endangered brain cells wumao.

Millions? You sure? It was a billion. Mao killed a billion Chinese didn't you know? While India did not starve anyone. Lol

 

[Han Patriot]

As per India's perspective, they consistently track your submarines as they traverse the Malacca Strait, earning your submarine fleet the nickname "underwater orchestra." If they can even come to the IOR for a war, they would find themselves in a situation where they would get their ass whooped and handed it over to them on a platter.

Yes and Indian couldn't build a submarine until recently. Even Arihant had to copy Russian reactor. Lolol

 

[DDG-80]

Yes and Indian couldn't build a submarine until recently. Even Arihant had to copy Russian reactor. Lolol

It's quite ironic to hear such criticism from someone whose military has copied almost everything from Soviet/Russian designs, including fighter jets, tanks, and warship radar systems. Even your helicopters are not indigenous designs; you've had to seek assistance from Kamov, paying royalties for their designs. Your Yuan class submarines is essentially a third-rate imitation of the kilo class, equipped with outdated Stirling engines. LMAO

 

[Beijingwalker]

It's quite ironic to hear such criticism from someone whose military has copied almost everything from Soviet/Russian designs, including fighter jets, tanks, and warship radar systems. Even your helicopters are not indigenous designs; you've had to seek assistance from Kamov, paying royalties for their designs. Your Yuan class submarines is essentially a third-rate imitation of the Yuan class, equipped with outdated Stirling engines. LMAO

The human history is about people copying each other, US is a copy itself and human science is not only 300 years old, and it's a neccessory stage of the development process if a less developed country move up to a developed country, India has never managed to at least start this process, or India believes it can become the top tech country overnight?

 

[Han Patriot]

It's quite ironic to hear such criticism from someone whose military has copied almost everything from Soviet/Russian designs, including fighter jets, tanks, and warship radar systems. Even your helicopters are not indigenous designs; you've had to seek assistance from Kamov, paying royalties for their designs. Your Yuan class submarines is essentially a third-rate imitation of the kilo class, equipped with outdated Stirling engines. LMAO

Our submarines use our own reactors mate. Our planes use our own engines, our helicopters are designed in China, we don't have to pay Dassault for consultation fees or Fincanteri for design fees. Whether we are 'inspired' by others, lol, that's a different matter. Lolol. You can't even copy correctly for God's sake. You had to be spoon fed, ask everyone about your so called indigenous weapons, and compare it with China we make all our weapons domestically, you friggin have to import the ejection seat and the nose cone and even the friggin steel. Lololol. India is a joke, even spoonfed with open arms, you still can't make any decent weapon, not even rifles. Lolol

 

[DDG-80]

You can't even copy correctly for God's sake. You had to be spoon fed, ask everyone about your so called indigenous weapons, and compare it with China we make all our weapons domestically, you friggin have to import the ejection seat and the nose cone and even the friggin steel. Lololol. India is a joke, even spoonfed with open arms, you still can't make any decent weapon, not even rifles. Lolol

India's diverse defense capabilities encompass a wide range of equipment, including artillery such as ATAGS, MaRG, Bharat 52, and 105mm ULH, along with fighters like LCA Tejas, trainers, EW systems, long-range BMD, SAMs, MBRLs, SR/MR/LRBMs, cruise missiles, nuclear submarines, aircraft carriers, warships, and nuclear weapons. Additionally, India develops drones among numerous other focuses. Despite allocating a fraction of the budget compared to Western economies, India continues to expand its military-industrial complex, with ongoing advancements like the formidable S-band naval radar, which rivals the AN/SPY-6.


●India's successful tests of a shipborne Ballistic Missile Defense system, employing an advanced naval S-band radar, establish a significant lead over China, which has not yet attained comparable milestones.

 

[DDG-80]

Whether we are 'inspired' by others, lol, that's a different matter. Lolol.

See what fellow Pakistanis are asserting regarding the Chinese BVRAAM, which they claim is smoky and unsuitable for air combat compared to the smokeless propellant of India's Astra BVRAAM. This, they argue, is the result of dedicated research versus a third-rate derivative of Soviet junks. LMAO

 

[DDG-80]

and even the friggin steel. Lololol.

It's the Chinese who import iron ore from India, Australia, and Brazil to manufacture steel in-house. The supply chain relies on foreign suppliers, and yet you have the audacity to speak about India. LMAO

 

[Beijingwalker]

It's the Chinese who import iron ore from India, Australia, and Brazil to manufacture steel in-house. The supply chain relies on foreign suppliers, and yet you have the audacity to speak about India. LMAO
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Talking about the steel, China beats the rest of the world hands down

 

[FuturePAF]

Didn't the French themselves need US help for their first carrier?

France still needs US support to get EMALS and a carrier based AWACS, even for this future carrier.

 

[Beijingwalker]

India imports a lot of steel from China, the steel for your navy ships may be also from China

India's Apr-Jan steel imports at six-year high as China shipments surge​

By Neha Arora
February 27, 20242:44 PM GMT+8

NEW DELHI, Feb 27 (Reuters) - India's steel imports touched a six-year high in the first 10 months of the fiscal year to March, led by Chinese shipments, and India was a net importer of finished steel, according to provisional government data seen by Reuters on Tuesday.

The demand for steel was strong in India, the world's second-biggest crude steel producer, as the country remained a bright spot globally with robust demand from its construction and automotive sectors.

Steel consumption in India jumped 14.5% to a six-year high of 112.5 million metric tons during the period, reflecting buoyant demand for the alloy in one of the world's fastest-growing economies.

India's steel demand is likely to stay strong as the government expects economic growth will outpace the global economy in the next fiscal year.

India imported 6.7 million metric tons of finished steel between April and January, up 35% from a year earlier, the data showed.

India's steel mills have called for government interventions and safeguard measures against surging imports. However, the federal Ministry of Steel has resisted calls for curbs, citing strong local demand.

China was the top exporter of finished steel to India between April and January, shipping 2.18 million metric tons of the alloy, up 80% from the same period a year earlier to hit a six-year high.

China primarily exported hot-rolled and cold-rolled steel products followed by galvanised plain and corrugated sheets as well as plates and pipes among others.

South Korea was the second-biggest exporter, whose shipments of finished steel to India reached a four-year high of 2.15 million metric tons during the period.

India's finished steel exports were at 5.5 million metric tons between April and January, up 3.6% on year. Crude steel output stood at 119 million metric tons, up 13.5% from a year earlier.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/indias-apr-jan-steel-imports-six-year-high-china-shipments-surge-2024-02-27/

 

[Han Patriot]

It's the Chinese who import iron ore from India, Australia, and Brazil to manufacture steel in-house. The supply chain relies on foreign suppliers, and yet you have the audacity to speak about India. LMAO
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Yes ah yes my genius Indian, steel is equals to iron. Yes exactly, India did not import steel for the submarines and carriers. Check the history of your DMR steel, they ran out of Russian import before 'researching' their new steel. Apparently you don't know China is also one of the largest producer of iron ore? The difference is we turn it into steel unlike genius India who sells it raw. Lololol

 

[Han Patriot]

See what fellow Pakistanis are asserting regarding the Chinese BVRAAM, which they claim is smoky and unsuitable for air combat compared to the smokeless propellant of India's Astra BVRAAM. This, they argue, is the result of dedicated research versus a third-rate derivative of Soviet junks. LMAO
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Wow, Indian is even more advanced that Soviets and Americans with their 'smokeless' propellant. Supapowa indeed. No wonder the range of their super duper missiles is so 'far'.

 

[Han Patriot]

India's diverse defense capabilities encompass a wide range of equipment, including artillery such as ATAGS, MaRG, Bharat 52, and 105mm ULH, along with fighters like LCA Tejas, trainers, EW systems, long-range BMD, SAMs, MBRLs, SR/MR/LRBMs, cruise missiles, nuclear submarines, aircraft carriers, warships, and nuclear weapons. Additionally, India develops drones among numerous other focuses. Despite allocating a fraction of the budget compared to Western economies, India continues to expand its military-industrial complex, with ongoing advancements like the formidable S-band naval radar, which rivals the AN/SPY-6.
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●India's successful tests of a shipborne Ballistic Missile Defense system, employing an advanced naval S-band radar, establish a significant lead over China, which has not yet attained comparable milestones.
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And the Indian with their progressive mindset. You do realise the world looks at your MIC as a joke right? You basically only do 'systems' engineering assembling imported parts. Most foreign arms maker love India because they know you guys will never learn from their tech and just import forever and get scammed in return. INDIA imports from everybody, making everybody happy and whatever project to 'indigenize' is essentially bullshit. The important thing in their mind is the kickback they will receive from these arms maker.

 

[Han Patriot]

India imports a lot of steel from China, the steel for your navy ships may be also from China

India's Apr-Jan steel imports at six-year high as China shipments surge​

By Neha Arora
February 27, 20242:44 PM GMT+8

NEW DELHI, Feb 27 (Reuters) - India's steel imports touched a six-year high in the first 10 months of the fiscal year to March, led by Chinese shipments, and India was a net importer of finished steel, according to provisional government data seen by Reuters on Tuesday.

The demand for steel was strong in India, the world's second-biggest crude steel producer, as the country remained a bright spot globally with robust demand from its construction and automotive sectors.

Steel consumption in India jumped 14.5% to a six-year high of 112.5 million metric tons during the period, reflecting buoyant demand for the alloy in one of the world's fastest-growing economies.

India's steel demand is likely to stay strong as the government expects economic growth will outpace the global economy in the next fiscal year.

India imported 6.7 million metric tons of finished steel between April and January, up 35% from a year earlier, the data showed.

India's steel mills have called for government interventions and safeguard measures against surging imports. However, the federal Ministry of Steel has resisted calls for curbs, citing strong local demand.

China was the top exporter of finished steel to India between April and January, shipping 2.18 million metric tons of the alloy, up 80% from the same period a year earlier to hit a six-year high.

China primarily exported hot-rolled and cold-rolled steel products followed by galvanised plain and corrugated sheets as well as plates and pipes among others.

South Korea was the second-biggest exporter, whose shipments of finished steel to India reached a four-year high of 2.15 million metric tons during the period.

India's finished steel exports were at 5.5 million metric tons between April and January, up 3.6% on year. Crude steel output stood at 119 million metric tons, up 13.5% from a year earlier.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/indias-apr-jan-steel-imports-six-year-high-china-shipments-surge-2024-02-27/

Bugger even had to import the insulation for their aircraft carrier boilers from China. I was like wtf, really? If you tear down their indigenous weapons, I can bet you a 1000$ it has all sorts of foreign components. Sanctions made us strong, while India with no sanctions is like that sponfed obese kid who can only walk on crutches.