Can the US win a war with China? Shocking new simulation reveals what could happen if Taiwan is attacked

[Beijingwalker]

Lol, we are so used to those US big talks since day one

Macarthur bragged about bringing US soldiers back home by Christmas 1950, and he ended up going back home all by himself. ( Fired by US president Truman)

 

[KingQamaR]

Exactly, the US will sink the majority of Chinese ships, and destroy its airlift capacity.

Without those China cant gain sea control and resupply its forces on Taiwan. This isn’t Russia-Ukraine, where Chinese forces can just drive to Taiwan.

The US will destroy the PLAN and its naval production capacity. At that point, it’s over for China.

Well, Taiwan is only 200km away from mainland China, at this distance, China already has advantage even against both U.S+ Japan. Since any air base and carrier group that can reach taiwan will also be inside China's land, sea and air based anti-ship missile range. China always avoid risks, and when the navy is strong enough to challange U.S at indian ocean, there will be minimum risk, since U.S will not able to block the trade route.

 

[UKBengali]

Well, Taiwan is only 200km away from mainland China, at this distance, China already has advantage even against both U.S+ Japan. Since any air base and carrier group that can reach taiwan will also be inside China's land, sea and air based anti-ship missile range. China always avoid risks, and when the navy is strong enough to challange U.S at indian ocean, there will be minimum risk, since U.S will not able to block the trade route.

Iran showed that good ballistic missiles can slot through any ABM defence.

Chinese missile tech is probably the best in the world.

 

[F-22Raptor]

Well, Taiwan is only 200km away from mainland China, at this distance, China already has advantage even against both U.S+ Japan. Since any air base and carrier group that can reach taiwan will also be inside China's land, sea and air based anti-ship missile range. China always avoid risks, and when the navy is strong enough to challange U.S at indian ocean, there will be minimum risk, since U.S will not able to block the trade route.

The US is already expanding its surface fires to Japan and Philippines. Combined with USN, USAF air and undersea domain fires, the PLAN WILL be destroyed.

Philippines, Japan to host advanced US missile units in move to counter China

The Philippine Army has confirmed the deployment, saying the plan is at its early planning stage.

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[Pingle]

Because rule number 1 of war.

YOU FIGHT WITH WHAT YOU GOT, NOT WHAT YOU WILL HAVE.

Industrial Capacity means nothing if you are at war, because you cannot make things instantly, especially if you are on the side that facing active warfare (again, bullet and missile will not just going 1 direction if China go to war with Japan and US) if you bank on producing military equipment during an active war, you have already lost that war.

He is a troll better ignore

 

[F-22Raptor]

Iran showed that good ballistic missiles can slot through any ABM defence.

Chinese missile tech is probably the best in the world.

Iran demonstrated how ineffective its ballistic missile arsenal is. Out of the 300 fired since April a handful hits it targets. Less than a dozen, and it’s had no military effect on Israeli forces.

 

[Beijingwalker]

The US is already expanding its surface fires to Japan and Philippines. Combined with USN, USAF air and undersea domain fires, the PLAN WILL be destroyed.

Philippines, Japan to host advanced US missile units in move to counter China

The Philippine Army has confirmed the deployment, saying the plan is at its early planning stage.

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Does US have the industry to sustain a prolonged war? your missiles will run out less than a month, now you don't have a industrial capablity to replenish your lost ammos.

 

[UKBengali]

Iran demonstrated how ineffective its ballistic missile arsenal is. Out of the 300 fired since April a handful hits it targets. Less than a dozen, and it’s had no military effect on Israeli forces.

Err, do you know the sophistication of the fired missiles each time?

TP2 had around 50 confirmed hits out of maybe 200 fired missiles. I am guessing that those intercepted were older generation missiles(10-20 years old) and the ones that got through were newer(<10 years old).

Latest Chinese missiles like HGV types will slice through and destroy any target they please, especially as they get mid-course Beidou guidance.

 

[hussain0216]

Well, Taiwan is only 200km away from mainland China, at this distance, China already has advantage even against both U.S+ Japan. Since any air base and carrier group that can reach taiwan will also be inside China's land, sea and air based anti-ship missile range. China always avoid risks, and when the navy is strong enough to challange U.S at indian ocean, there will be minimum risk, since U.S will not able to block the trade route.

If Taiwan was in Africa then the U.S ability to project power would ensure China would be unable to take it

But Taiwan is 100 miles or so off the Chinese coast

It doesn't matter what the U.S has, that close to the Chinese mainland and China will simply blast anything in its path and that Includes the U.S navy and it's aircraft carriers

The only thing holding China back is probably the economic and world fall out, once china decides it can deal with that, then it's game over for Taiwan regardless of what anyone else thinks or wants

 

[F-22Raptor]

Does US have the industry to sustain a prolonged war? your missiles will run out less than a month, now you don't have a industrial capablity to replenish your lost ammos.

The PLAN will be long sunk before the US ever runs out of missiles and torpedos.

US current missile stocks are over 10,000 cruise missiles and 2,000 ballistic missiles.

Current JASSM-ER production rate is 545 per year, and that’s increasing to 800 per year soon.

JASSM and LRASM will be at a rate of 1,100/year by 2026/27

 

[Beijingwalker]

The PLAN will be long sunk before the US ever runs out of missiles and torpedos.

US current missile stocks are over 10,000 cruise missiles and 2,000 ballistic missiles.

Current JASSM-ER production rate is 545 per year, and that’s increasing to 800 per year soon.

JASSM and LRASM will be at a rate of 1,100/year by 2026/27

lOl, you talk big just like your fired generals 70 years ago. You also said Huawei was dead a couple of years ago, didn't you?

 

[F-22Raptor]

Err, do you know the sophistication of the fired missiles each time?

TP2 had around 50 confirmed hits out of maybe 200 fired missiles. I am guessing that those intercepted were older generation missiles(10-20 years old) and the ones that got through were newer(<10 years old).

Latest Chinese missiles like HGV types will slice through and destroy any target they please, especially as they get mid-course Beidou guidance.

TP2 hit about 5-10 targets. Irans BM performance was terrible and had no effect on Israeli forces. Hitting desert sand is not something to brag about. If you can’t hit targets with precision, then you had no effect on target.

 

[UKBengali]

TP2 hit about 5-10 targets. Irans BM performance was terrible and had no effect on Israeli forces. Hitting desert sand is not something to brag about. If you can’t hit targets with precision, then you had no effect on target.

So what were those hits on the buildings and runways at Nevatim?

Also when are we going to see the damage at Tel Nof where an enormous secondary explosion was seen?

Around 50 hits were counted and Iran mainly fired their older missiles as most analysts think.

If PLA goes ham on the USN, your sailors would be wishing for a painless death as quick as possible as nothing will save them from thousands of super accurate and non-interceptible missiles. Try intercepting a HGV that has unpredictable flattened trajectory to the target.

 

[KingQamaR]

If Taiwan was in Africa then the U.S ability to project power would ensure China would be unable to take it

But Taiwan is 100 miles or so off the Chinese coast

It doesn't matter what the U.S has, that close to the Chinese mainland and China will simply blast anything in its path and that Includes the U.S navy and it's aircraft carriers

The only thing holding China back is probably the economic and world fall out, once china decides it can deal with that, then it's game over for Taiwan regardless of what anyone else thinks or wants

The Tyranny of distance has always been Washington biggest concern in a hypothetical US-China conflict.

That aside, the robust A2//AD capabilities the Chinese have built also worries Washington.

 

[F-22Raptor]

lOl, you talk big just like your fired generals 70 years ago. You also said Huawei was dead a couple of years ago, didn't you?

Huawei went from near #1 smartphone sales in the world to an afterthought globally. It now resorts to using older technology and only alive due to Chinese nationalism and support for the company.

Huawei is effectively dead globally.