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China’s mock-up destroyer US Arleigh Burke floats out to sea​

By Boyko Nikolov On May 18, 2024


A recently surfaced photo online showcases a Chinese mock-up of the US Arleigh Burke-class destroyer being utilized by the PLA Navy as a “target ship” to train personnel in anti-ship targeting simulations.

China's mock-up destroyer US Arleigh Burke floats  out to sea
Photo credit: Top War


The training scheme used by the Chinese sailors also closely mirrors that of the Japanese Asahi-class destroyers. The PLA’s employment of a US warship mock-up for these exercises indicates that Beijing likely views the US as its chief adversary.

This strategy of using realistic models isn’t new for the Chinese People’s Liberation Army. Beijing has long adopted this method, even constructing realistic replicas of its J-31 fighter jets designed for aircraft carriers. Recent footage shows these models being positioned on the decks of China’s new carriers, providing crucial spatial references and valuable training scenarios.

U.S. aircraft carrier has appeared in the Chinese desert [photos]
Photo credit: Maxar

When it comes to training, China has definitely taken an innovative approach. They’ve constructed a life-size replica of a U.S. aircraft carrier right in the middle of the desert. And that’s not all. Satellite images have uncovered two realistic mock-ups of Arleigh Burke-class destroyers also situated in the desert sands. All of this became known before the war in Ukraine, with satellite company Maxar making the revelations public in November 2021.

But China’s use of models doesn’t end there. This strategy is also used to mislead enemy forces, drawing their resources toward fake targets and showcasing the tactical advantages of visual deception in today’s warfare.

In a recent update from BulgarianMilitary.com, a mock-up of an American Patriot anti-aircraft missile system was seen being transported on Chinese roads, loaded onto a truck. The sighting initially stirred excitement and speculation, leading to theories that Russia had captured this system in Ukraine and handed it over to China for analysis.

U.S. aircraft carrier has appeared in the Chinese desert [photos]
Photo credit: Maxar

However, these assumptions were incorrect. Experts identified the image as a ‘VISMOD’ [visual modification] training tool used by the People’s Liberation Army [PLA]. Intel analyst Ryan McBeth noted discrepancies in the tire treads and taillights visible in the photo, which did not match those of genuine U.S.-made Patriot systems, calling the photo’s authenticity into question.

Taiwanese officials report a significant increase in China’s military pressure on the island since Lai Ching-te assumed power, with the pressure intensifying as his inauguration day approaches. During President Biden’s meeting with Xi Jinping in San Francisco last November, both sides are believed to have reached agreements that point to a more restrained U.S. policy toward Taiwan.

Despite this, following Lai Ching-te’s election victory in Taiwan, tensions between the nations have escalated. Taiwanese experts suggest that Beijing is trying to exert pressure on the new government in Taipei through these actions.

Lately, there’s been a noticeable uptick in the presence of Chinese warships near the island, with PLA aircraft making deliberate approaches toward Taiwan. The PLA frequently holds diverse exercises in the area, including amphibious drills involving mine-clearing units, night operations, and air-to-air refueling practice.


 

The original 35 Type 052D destroyers were built in 10 years. Why is the price/performance ratio so high?​


2024-05-29 17:17
Published in: Henan Province

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In the previous article, I talked to you about a series of stories about the development of various main warships in our country, such as the Type 055 destroyer and the Type 054B destroyer. Today, we talk about the Type 052D destroyer. From 2014 to 2024, within 10 years, my country built a total of 35 052D series destroyers, becoming the largest number of destroyers built in my country. So, what is the cost performance of the 052D series destroyers, and why have more than 30 ships been built?

First, let’s talk about the development of our country’s main warships. Throughout the 1990s, our country successively developed two Type 052 destroyers and one Type 051B destroyer. However, the comprehensive performance of the above-mentioned ships is relatively limited, especially the air defense combat capabilities are obviously insufficient. In such a general environment, in order to further improve the modernization level of the PLA Navy and further improve its combat effectiveness. From the late 1990s to the early 21st century, our country successively imported four modern-class destroyers from Russia.

In the early 21st century, modern-class destroyers belong to the absolute elite main force of our country's navy. After entering the 21st century, our country has successively built two Type 052B destroyers, two Type 052C destroyers, and two Type 051C destroyers. In particular, the Type 052C destroyer is a regional air defense destroyer. It is equipped with 8 groups of 6 joints with a total of 48 units of circular vertical launch systems, which mainly launch Haihongqi 9 air defense missiles. However, due to the immature technologies in engines, radars, missiles and other aspects.

People's Liberation Army modern-class destroyers, a total of 4 ships

In the first batch of Type 052C destroyers, only two were built. It was not until after 2010, when all aspects of technology were fully stabilized, that my country began the construction of the second batch of Type 052C destroyers, totaling four ships. However, the Type 052C destroyer is still limited in all aspects of technology, and there is a clear gap with various main ships in the world's first echelon.

With the overall development of our country's scientific and technological level, our country has further developed the Type 052D destroyer based on the Type 052C destroyer. The Type 052D destroyer is a 7,000-ton-class ship. It is equipped with 8 groups of 8-unit 64-unit vertical launching systems. It can launch a series of weapons such as Haihongqi 9 air defense missiles, YJ 18 anti-ship missiles, and Yu 10 anti-submarine missiles. It is very cost-effective. In 2014, the first type 052D destroyer entered service. The PLA Navy is very satisfied with the comprehensive cost performance and reliability of the Type 052D destroyer.

Japanese Kongo-class destroyers, 4 in total

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In fact, Japan was very concerned about the construction of the Type 052D destroyer. At that time, some Japanese media had already begun to speculate on the number of Type 052D destroyers to be built. Some Japanese media believe that by 2020, my country will have about six Type 052D destroyers in service. Together with 6 Type 052C and 2 Type 051C destroyers, it forms the main ship formation of our navy.

In comparison, Japan has 4 Kongo-class destroyers, 2 Atago-class destroyers, plus various types of general-purpose destroyers, such as Takaha-class, Murasame-class, etc., and still has "the advantage." However, I never expected that my country's Type 052D destroyer has entered the mass construction stage. The number of constructions exceeded the speculations of the United States, Japan and other media, and even exceeded the speculations of many institutions or experts in our country. As of April 2024, within 10 years, my country has built a total of 35 052D series destroyers.

People's Liberation Army Type 052C destroyer, a total of 6 ships

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According to statistics, as of April 2024, our country's navy has a total of 27 or 28 052D series destroyers in service. In addition, there are 7/8 052D series destroyers still in the process of sea trials and outfitting, and are expected to enter service in 2024 and 2025. Of course, the Type 052D destroyer is a ship developed in the 2010s, and it has been more than 10 years. With the development of science and technology and feedback from the naval forces, my country's 052D series destroyers have also made a series of improvements.

According to statistics from a series of foreign media, the 35 052D series destroyers built in our country are divided into 4 batches. Among them, the first and second batches are basic models, with a total of 13 ships. Compared with the first two batches, the third batch has seen great improvements, called Type 052DL, with a total of 12 ships. Compared with the first two batches, the length of the hangar and helicopter platform of the third batch has been appropriately lengthened, and it can park, take off and land Z-20 anti-submarine helicopters.

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At the same time, the YLC-8B shipborne warning radar (jokingly called a flyswatter by netizens) was used to replace the original 517B meter-wave radar. The first two batches of Type 052D destroyers could only take off and land Z-9 or Ka-28 helicopters due to their relatively short hangars and helicopter platforms. There are 4 batches of Type 052D destroyers, and so far, there are a total of 10 ships. Whether it will be built in batches again is still unknown.

Compared with the previous three batches, the fourth batch of Type 052D destroyers uses the 368 X-band double-sided phased array masttop radar to replace the original H/LJQ-364 quick response radar on the main mast. It is conducive to blind filling at low altitude, and the detection range and reaction time are significantly increased for sea-skimming stealth targets that are increasingly threatening. Especially various low, slow and small targets, such as cruise missiles, drones, etc.

PLA Type 052D destroyer, 35 in total

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A question arises, why are 35 052D series destroyers built? First of all, after entering the 2010s, as the economy continued to develop at a rapid pace, our country's navy entered a period of rapid development. The navy has a very high demand for various large and medium-sized ships, especially the number of large-tonnage destroyers, which is very urgent. Second, the Type 052D destroyer has a very high overall cost performance and can take into account all aspects of combat needs. The Navy is still very satisfied with the Type 052D series destroyers.

Of course, the main reason is the support of strong national power. Without sufficient financial and material resources, and without our country's huge development in steel, electronic equipment, power systems, aviation industry and other aspects, our navy will definitely not be able to make great strides in development. In comparison, the naval development of other established naval powers in the world has obviously declined in recent years. All kinds of large main ships can be counted on two hands. Take my country's Type 055 destroyer as an example. Currently, there are more than 10 destroyers.

Eight PLA Type 055 destroyers have been put into service

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Let’s take the U.S. Navy as an example. More than 60 U.S. Ari Burke destroyers have been in service. Currently, the United States is building Arleigh Burke 2A and Arleigh Burke 3 destroyers in batches. According to the U.S. Navy's plan, the Ari Burke 3 destroyers will gradually replace the old Ari Burke early batches. In the 2030s, the United States plans to further develop the 13,000-ton DDGX destroyer.


 
A real beast...
 
With 055 being the destroyer, I can see Type 052D being demoted to heavy frigate.
 
With 055 being the destroyer, I can see Type 052D being demoted to heavy frigate.

China is now mass producing the Type 055 like the Type 052D from 5 years ago.

I think the real deal should be the nuclear powered cruiser with direct energy weapons such as the laser & railgun.

Professor Ma Weiming has suggested a new kind of battleship in the years of 2030s.

 
No, China still needs lots of 052D for blue water open seas and oceans operations. 055 are not going to be built as numerous as 052D.

China is planning to build more than 60 Type 052D destroyers, but it could be eventually surpassed 100 units of this class.

The Type 055 is also going to be numerous, maybe not as much as the Type 052D or AB class Aegis destroyers, but still a lot of more compared to other destroyer classes.
 
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I think they still need to make a bigger design, around ~16000 tons.

- Larger and more advanced radar for anti-ballistic capability
- Increase number of VLS cells from 112 to 128
- Integrated electric propulsion
- Shipboard laser
- Stealthier hull
 

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