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In the past, China's nuclear submarines have consistently ranked at the bottom among the five permanent members of the UN Security Council. However, the latest 093B model has completely turned the tables and achieved a remarkable comeback!
The new 093B possesses all the features of a world-class high-performance nuclear submarine, including pump-jet propulsion and vertical launch systems—with none missing. Moreover, the 093B is equipped with a unique weapon: the recently unveiled hypersonic YJ family!
The YJ-19 can be launched from the 093B’s torpedo tubes, while the YJ-17 and YJ-20 can be fired from its vertical launch system. This means the 093B can carry three types of hypersonic anti-ship missiles with a range of up to 1,500 kilometers. It is important to note that, in actual combat, an aircraft carrier battle group would be unable to detect a submarine at such a distance. Thus, the 093B can launch missiles unimpeded to strike aircraft carrier groups. Combined with the powerful penetration capabilities of hypersonic anti-ship missiles, the 093B has truly transformed into a super carrier killer!
The new 093B possesses all the features of a world-class high-performance nuclear submarine, including pump-jet propulsion and vertical launch systems—with none missing. Moreover, the 093B is equipped with a unique weapon: the recently unveiled hypersonic YJ family!
The YJ-19 can be launched from the 093B’s torpedo tubes, while the YJ-17 and YJ-20 can be fired from its vertical launch system. This means the 093B can carry three types of hypersonic anti-ship missiles with a range of up to 1,500 kilometers. It is important to note that, in actual combat, an aircraft carrier battle group would be unable to detect a submarine at such a distance. Thus, the 093B can launch missiles unimpeded to strike aircraft carrier groups. Combined with the powerful penetration capabilities of hypersonic anti-ship missiles, the 093B has truly transformed into a super carrier killer!
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The latest high-definition satellite image of the new "Big Black Fish," captured by an Airbus satellite.
The pump-jet, cross-shaped tail rudder, and sail planes are clearly visible. Approximately 9-10 vessels of this type of "Big Black Fish" have been launched (with one possibly being an entirely new generation).
The pump-jet, cross-shaped tail rudder, and sail planes are clearly visible. Approximately 9-10 vessels of this type of "Big Black Fish" have been launched (with one possibly being an entirely new generation).
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The first vessel of Virginia Block 5 was originally scheduled to enter service in 2030, but it is now likely to be delayed by at least 2–3 years.
The last U.S. submarines to have their keels laid in dry dock were SSN-802 and SSN-805 in August 2023. The two American shipyards were supposed to perform keel-laying for 1–2 new submarines annually as planned, but this has been suspended for over two years due to unknown technical challenges.
As a result, with the retirement of the aging Los Angeles-class nuclear submarines, the U.S. will only have 38 attack submarines by 2030. Among them, eight are Los Angeles-class submarines that are already unable to leave port (the youngest of which is already 34 years old), and two are aging Seawolf-class submarines. This leaves only 28 Virginia-class submarines that can be considered as having substantial combat capability.
China has launched three SSNs annually for three consecutive years and will continue to accelerate this pace during the 14th Five-Year Plan period. The two final assembly plants shown in Figure 3 feature a total of 10 tracks and 20 construction bays. Over the next five years, China will launch at least four SSNs per year, and this does not even include the new SSBNs. Notably, this production volume does not even utilize half of the new facility’s maximum capacity.
By 2030, the PLA Navy will have at least 30 Type 09ⅢB and Type 09V submarines either commissioned or launched. Even excluding the nine older Type 09Ⅲ submarines and the newly launched and commissioned small "Xiao Hu Jing" submarines, the anti-ship and land-attack capabilities of the PLA Navy’s submarine fleet will far surpass those of the U.S. Navy by then.
The underwater fleet, which was once China’s most lagging area, is set to surpass the United States in both quantity and quality by 2030!
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The last U.S. submarines to have their keels laid in dry dock were SSN-802 and SSN-805 in August 2023. The two American shipyards were supposed to perform keel-laying for 1–2 new submarines annually as planned, but this has been suspended for over two years due to unknown technical challenges.
As a result, with the retirement of the aging Los Angeles-class nuclear submarines, the U.S. will only have 38 attack submarines by 2030. Among them, eight are Los Angeles-class submarines that are already unable to leave port (the youngest of which is already 34 years old), and two are aging Seawolf-class submarines. This leaves only 28 Virginia-class submarines that can be considered as having substantial combat capability.
China has launched three SSNs annually for three consecutive years and will continue to accelerate this pace during the 14th Five-Year Plan period. The two final assembly plants shown in Figure 3 feature a total of 10 tracks and 20 construction bays. Over the next five years, China will launch at least four SSNs per year, and this does not even include the new SSBNs. Notably, this production volume does not even utilize half of the new facility’s maximum capacity.
By 2030, the PLA Navy will have at least 30 Type 09ⅢB and Type 09V submarines either commissioned or launched. Even excluding the nine older Type 09Ⅲ submarines and the newly launched and commissioned small "Xiao Hu Jing" submarines, the anti-ship and land-attack capabilities of the PLA Navy’s submarine fleet will far surpass those of the U.S. Navy by then.
The underwater fleet, which was once China’s most lagging area, is set to surpass the United States in both quantity and quality by 2030!
from ：lyman2003
j_hungary
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The author knows shit about anything military..LOl, you can write to the author of the article.
And they won't be there for long at this speed
A2/AD is a defensive strategy, laying mine, for example, is one of the prime A2/AD Example. China A2/AD strategy is to stop the USN from coming into the Chinese Coast and the claimed island in the South China Sea. You can't do A2/AD if you do not own that part of the area. And China has no presence in INDO-PACIFIC.
The US can use an A2/AD strategy by positioning anti-ship missiles, anti-submarine asset, and anti-air assets on bases to deter China with respect to Guam and the Mariana Islands. The Philippines can use A2/AD to limit access to anyone, so did Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Australia and New Zealand. China has no presence in Indo-Pacific, if China have any opeation in Indo-Pacific, that would have been an offensive operation, trying to break the regional A2/AD
And posting a bunch of random images online with nothing to do with the topic at hand wouldn't support your point.
@RescueRanger Can you come here and take down this post? Thanks
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RescueRanger
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Done.
j_hungary
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Thanks, man, I don't mind Trolling, but the false information is just too much. You may need to limit sources to reputable sources only; some sources are just outright shit and solely used to fan troll..
RescueRanger
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I've actually mentioned this before to members that dubious sources should be avoided.
j_hungary
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Yeah, this is pretty bad. The article had no military value, as most of what the author said is just outright wrong. It's like declaring India can A2/AD Pakistan's own backyard or vice versa, and people here (assorted members in this forum mainly) love to pick up these articles and then start trolling........which is mostly what these articles are designed to do.
I mean, in this day and age, anyone can just open a website and then blare out whatever they want, information can only become information when we had processed it from raw data, and people posting these type of thing here won't do the forum any good.
Beijingwalker
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lOl , You trolled first, and you got it back. What your music video has to do with this thread?
Beijingwalker
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Why you deleted US plane crash pics in the South China Sea but not his unrelated musical video?
j_hungary
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Dude, exactly how thick are you?
The YouTube video is titled "All I have to do is Dream"
IE. YOU HAVE TO BE DREAMING TO THINK CHINA CAN TURN INDO-PACIFIC INTO A NO-GO ZONE with A2/AD as the article suggests.
While your post is just a bunch of random aircraft crashes, it had nothing to do with the topic YOU STARTED, unless it's the Chinese Strategy to wait for every one of the US Navy Aircraft to crash by its own accord
@RescueRanger can you please take care of this as well thank you
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Yellow is Okay
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Are US military bases in Thailand still active? I thought the US and Thailand shut them down years ago?
j_hungary
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Same as the Philippines and Australia, the US does not maintain a Permanent Structure in Thailand, but has a visiting force agreement with Thailand to use Udon and U-Tapao Air Base. Not sure about Naval Base
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