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RBE2 AA radar, Rafale fighters have one of the best radars for ground bombing missions and penetrating enemy air defenses in the world.

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The Dassault Rafale aircraft is an advanced multi-role fighter equipped with high technology. They are designed to perform a wide range of missions including air superiority, interdiction, air reconnaissance, ground support, deep strike, anti-ship strike, and nuclear deterrence missions.

The Rafale features the RBE2 AA Active Electronic Scanning Array (AESA) radar that provides advanced detection, tracking, imaging, ground bombing and air defense penetration capabilities. This radar is considered one of the latest in its class and contributes to making the Rafale one of the most advanced aircraft in the world.

The RBE2 AA radar is an advanced Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar designed specifically for the Dassault Rafale aircraft. Here are some key details about this radar:

• High performance: It features exceptional detection, tracking and imaging capabilities, allowing precise identification and tracking of targets.

• Flexibility: The radar can track multiple targets simultaneously and in all directions, thanks to electronic beam control technology.

• Resistance to jamming: It has the ability to resist jamming, which enhances its effectiveness in complex combat environments.

• Synthetic Radar Imaging: Provides advanced synthetic radar (SAR) imaging capabilities, helping improve situational awareness and support reconnaissance missions.

• Extended range: supports detection of low-visibility targets and is fully used with new weapon systems such as the Meteor air-to-air missile.

• Reliability: It is highly reliable, reducing the need for maintenance and lowering costs over the lifespan.

• The Rafale radar has the ability to detect 40 targets simultaneously and engage the 8 most dangerous targets.

• The radar can operate for 10 years without the need for maintenance and is characterized by very low energy use when operating at its maximum range. The radar’s range reaches 230 – 280 km.

This radar is the first of its kind in Europe and has been successfully tested in combat operations aboard Rafale aircraft of the French Air Force. It is also used on Rafale aircraft of the air forces of Egypt, Qatar, India, Greece, Croatia, the United Arab Emirates, and Indonesia.

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Your old buddy @Frogman hahahaha

You can see the EMB-312

He just posted a few weeks ago after a year or more being MIA. And his post was just one word in Arabic, "نكسة" heck I hope he's ok. Dude was VEEEEERRRRYYY critical of all things Armed Forces I hope he wasn't ahem....you know.

I bet he's reading this "eh yalla, fenak ya lo2lo2? Ta3ala ba2a join us back here again we miss your crap ya 7omar." :D Hopefully he doesn't appreciate that and comes back with a vengeance lol.
 

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@The SC & @Parallel_Politics & @Ghostkiller , not sure if SC posted this video already or not, so forgive if you did, bro. But take a look at what our friend from Sa7aat EL 3askareyya says @ minute 7:37 on, but particularly what he says towards the end @ minute 9:54 what do you fellas think? Is his "confirmation" plausible? Just because it's displayed on the model does that mean it's an automatic guarantee? Or is there a possibility that the model was issued to the EAF with the full compliment of weapons just as a standard operating procedure and there's still some doubt and only believe it when we see it? What do you fellas think? And does anyone know his name?

 
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@The SC & @Parallel_Politics & @Ghostkiller , not sure if SC posted this video already or not, so forgive if you did, bro. But take a look at what our friend from Sa7aat EL 3askareyya says @ minute 7:37 on, but particularly what he says towards the end @ minute 9:54 what do you fellas think? Is his "confirmation" plausible? Just because it's displayed on the model does that mean it's an automatic guarantee? Or is there a possibility that the model was issued to the EAF with the full compliment of weapons just as a standard operating procedure and there's still some doubt and only believe it when we see it? What do you fellas think? And does anyone know his name?


Haven't seen this guy's videos in a while mainly because he repeats much of the content and reads out old posts from Arabic forums like they are his own. Thisdisplay has been around for a while now. I have no doubt in my mind that Egypt has/will receive the meteor. Everyone pulled **** out of their ass about how the EAF won't get the SCALP, yet they got it in decent numbers. The 2021 deal for 30 rafales would not have been signed without the Meteor. Even if they were to get the MICA-NG as an alternative for the Rafale, there's no such alternative for the ET and no talks would be on the table for the Typhoon without the meteor.
 

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Haven't seen this guy's videos in a while mainly because he repeats much of the content and reads out old posts from Arabic forums like they are his own. Thisdisplay has been around for a while now. I have no doubt in my mind that Egypt has/will receive the meteor. Everyone pulled **** out of their ass about how the EAF won't get the SCALP, yet they got it in decent numbers. The 2021 deal for 30 rafales would not have been signed without the Meteor. Even if they were to get the MICA-NG as an alternative for the Rafale, there's no such alternative for the ET and no talks would be on the table for the Typhoon without the meteor.

Agreed. I also don't think a model, which was most likely gifted by Dassault and no one else would've included a Meteor missile if it wasn't part of the expected package. That would make absolutely no sense whatsoever. Strange as it may be, a small detail like that actually makes a huge difference.
 

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Haven't seen this guy's videos in a while mainly because he repeats much of the content and reads out old posts from Arabic forums like they are his own. Thisdisplay has been around for a while now. I have no doubt in my mind that Egypt has/will receive the meteor. Everyone pulled **** out of their ass about how the EAF won't get the SCALP, yet they got it in decent numbers. The 2021 deal for 30 rafales would not have been signed without the Meteor. Even if they were to get the MICA-NG as an alternative for the Rafale, there's no such alternative for the ET and no talks would be on the table for the Typhoon without the meteor.
Agreed. I also don't think a model, which was most likely gifted by Dassault and no one else would've included a Meteor missile if it wasn't part of the expected package. That would make absolutely no sense whatsoever. Strange as it may be, a small detail like that actually makes a huge difference.
For me. if France gave us limited weapons for SCALP missiles then you should ask them to mount any cruise missile that we want (JV, cooperations, local production etc...).
We need cheap cruise missile to overwhelm enemies's AD.
 

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For me. if France gave us limited weapons for SCALP missiles then you should ask them to mount any cruise missile that we want (JV, cooperations, local production etc...).
We need cheap cruise missile to overwhelm enemies's AD.

If they haven't already done that, then we should be running the EAF and not them! Seriously, that's a no-brainer. Knowing that they're negotiating for at least local production of special parts for the Rafel (like they did with the F-16), that's the least they should do with the Rafale, if not complete assembly which is what they're trying for. All of that should come with the standard munitions as well, just like the F-16 and even more since with the Rafale, we've paid for those. The F-16s came with the AID money through Peace Vector, so it goes without saying.

This is why the Russian side of the EAF is CRITICAL. No shortages of cruise and KH missiles with the MiG-29M and potentially much more from that end. That was why the Su-35SE was so important.
 

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There is a policy in place to export weapons
Especially in the field of selling fighter jets

For example, when Egypt chose F-16 fighters in 1987, and due to its possession at that time of 87 fighters of this model, the AIM-7 missile was integrated, and Egypt at that time decided to purchase 1,300 for the defense of this model, while assembling 5,000 AIM-9 missiles for the benefit of the entire fleet of Egyptian fighters. As a standard missile for the F-16 F-4E MIG-21 F-6 F-7 fighters as a replacement for the AA-2 "Atoll" missile.
On most of the American and Russian fighter fleet at this time


We come to French fighters, as the number of fighters increases, there becomes flexibility on the part of the country supplying the fighters in the field of integrating the ammunition available in the country importing the fighters, and we all know that the MIRAGE-2000 fighter in India incorporated various Russian ammunition, the R-73 KH-29, which was integrated into the fighter MIRAGE F-1
Even India had stipulated the integration of the KH-31 missile into the Laravale fighters. The French welcomed the integration of this missile, and in the same way the French will integrate the entire French ammunition series
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the INDIA bought a first batch of 36 planes and then requested 26 planes for the Indian Navy. It is not natural for Indian fighters to rely on SCLAP METEOR MICA missiles at their high prices as well as their limited quantities, especially since the fighters always use ammunition in large quantities. What applies to India applies to Egypt, which will supply The Rafale is equipped with Indian ammunition produced under license in Egypt. The Indians see that Egypt will be a large market for their ammunition products, so they were interested in opening a market with even 20 LCA fighters, because their eyes are on supplying the MIG-29 SU-35 fighters, the French Rafale, and the French Mirage 2000, meaning no less than 200 fighters supplying Indian ammunition. The same thing is the case, why are the Turks and the SOUTH KOREA breathing down Egyptian fighter deals, because Egypt owns 208 F-16 fighter jets, supplying them with ammunition produced by these countries, a large market for them, in addition to advanced training aircraft. The American restrictions are themselves a disaster for America. Egypt has presented to the world a model that American fighters and American weapons have a French alternative. Rather, the revitalization of the French arms industry came due to Egyptian requests. Egypt is the catalyst for France to produce alternatives to American weapons. France was importing the HELFIRE missile, and its industry was shrinking when Egypt opened the arms market for Laval fighters and GOWIND-2500 corvettes.
These products became successful in the international market, and the French developed an alternative to the RIM-116 system. The same thing encouraged them to produce an alternative to the American MQ-9 aircraft.
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The French aircraft AAROK, which simply means Egypt, created French competition in the arms market. Likewise, Egypt, the largest customer of Chinese drones, bought huge quantities through announced and unannounced deals that made countries ignore American drones and made American sales limited to Europe and countries affiliated with USA
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You, as a customer, ignoring American fighters made other countries search for a source. Why did Pakistan turn to the Chinese J-10CE plane and ignore the search for more American fighters? America will not achieve the success in the fighter industry that was achieved in the F-4 and F-16 fighters in the future because alternatives are simply available. South Korea has become an alternative to American fighters, and South Korea wants to manufacture its own engine to get rid of any American restrictions on exporting future versions of its KF-21 plane. So, if America’s largest customer for fighters turns away from it, Turkey is forced to develop the F-16 fleet and is forced to buy more of them because it has no alternative but Its future local aircraft, if it succeeds in manufacturing an engine for it, that is, simply the market for fighter producers expands, and the American restrictions countries get rid of them.

In the Egyptian aircraft factory, there was an Egyptian engineer speaking to members of the Lockheed Materin delegation for years, perhaps 10 years, about the fact that Egypt was developing F-16 fighters. The American company said one thing: inform us of the updates because we cannot force you not to develop through us only as long as the American government does not respond to your requests.

The American-Egyptian point of contention for American weapons in Egypt is that America wants to develop F-16 fighters by developing a new mission computer that Egypt cannot modify or add any other ammunition that Egypt desires. Egypt refused, as it prefers F-16 BLOCK-40 fighters. Egypt can integrate weapons and ammunition and develop war ammunition. Electronics outside US control are better than the F-16 BLOCK-72
It places America in complete control over the fighter jets in the possession of the Egyptians. Egypt also rejects any American restrictions on the use of fighter jets in carrying out anti-terrorism missions, whether in Libya or Ethiopia, and the same applies to M1A1 tanks. Because of this, Egypt ignores any American fighter offers or American modernization outside the framework of the Egyptians’ desire to Controlling their fighters, as Egypt prefers old fighters that it can develop, and Egypt plays with the time factor of the F-16 as an old fighter. The factor controlling it by America is declining because America is focusing on fighters such as the F-35, and the F-16 is considered, like the F-5E fighter in 1981, an old plane, even if it was manufactured. It is modern and its performance is low, so Egypt incorporated Al-Tariq bombs without even caring about the Americans’ approval or disapproval, and not like some gullible Americans. They want to control the level of Egyptian weapons, so the Americans left the Egyptian arms market, and Egypt actually refuses to obtain weapons that it does not have the ability to control and prefers to buy fighters from countries that provide Egypt has the flexibility to develop it and integrate various ammunition on it. The French are smart and know that the flexibility of their weapons is the reason for marketing and high-priced fighters. This reason is not only for its quality but also for its authoritarianism. Egypt prefers France as a competing arms supplier, which is better than leaving America in control of the global arms market and restricting countries. All countries have come to hate America’s control and control. But it does not enter into a direct conflict with it, but rather leaves it to diminish its ability, even with the growth of the American economy over the past two years, but also the Eurasian-Chinese war against America will not embarrass a victorious America.
 
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There is a policy in place to export weapons
Especially in the field of selling fighter jets

For example, when Egypt chose F-16 fighters in 1987, and due to its possession at that time of 87 fighters of this model, the AIM-7 missile was integrated, and Egypt at that time decided to purchase 1,300 for the defense of this model, while assembling 5,000 AIM-9 missiles for the benefit of the entire fleet of Egyptian fighters. As a standard missile for the F-16 F-4E MIG-21 F-6 F-7 fighters as a replacement for the AA-2 "Atoll" missile.
On most of the American and Russian fighter fleet at this time


We come to French fighters, as the number of fighters increases, there becomes flexibility on the part of the country supplying the fighters in the field of integrating the ammunition available in the country importing the fighters, and we all know that the MIRAGE-2000 fighter in India incorporated various Russian ammunition, the R-73 KH-29, which was integrated into the fighter MIRAGE F-1
Even India had stipulated the integration of the KH-31 missile into the Laravale fighters. The French welcomed the integration of this missile, and in the same way the French will integrate the entire French ammunition series
ASTRA-MK 1/2/3 RUDARM-1/2/3. BRAHOMOS- NG Simply put,
the INDIA bought a first batch of 36 planes and then requested 26 planes for the Indian Navy. It is not natural for Indian fighters to rely on SCLAP METEOR MICA missiles at their high prices as well as their limited quantities, especially since the fighters always use ammunition in large quantities. What applies to India applies to Egypt, which will supply The Rafale is equipped with Indian ammunition produced under license in Egypt. The Indians see that Egypt will be a large market for their ammunition products, so they were interested in opening a market with even 20 LCA fighters, because their eyes are on supplying the MIG-29 SU-35 fighters, the French Rafale, and the French Mirage 2000, meaning no less than 200 fighters supplying Indian ammunition. The same thing is the case, why are the Turks and the SOUTH KOREA breathing down Egyptian fighter deals, because Egypt owns 208 F-16 fighter jets, supplying them with ammunition produced by these countries, a large market for them, in addition to advanced training aircraft. The American restrictions are themselves a disaster for America. Egypt has presented to the world a model that American fighters and American weapons have a French alternative. Rather, the revitalization of the French arms industry came due to Egyptian requests. Egypt is the catalyst for France to produce alternatives to American weapons. France was importing the HELFIRE missile, and its industry was shrinking when Egypt opened the arms market for Laval fighters and GOWIND-2500 corvettes.
These products became successful in the international market, and the French developed an alternative to the RIM-116 system. The same thing encouraged them to produce an alternative to the American MQ-9 aircraft.
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The French aircraft AAROK, which simply means Egypt, created French competition in the arms market. Likewise, Egypt, the largest customer of Chinese drones, bought huge quantities through announced and unannounced deals that made countries ignore American drones and made American sales limited to Europe and countries affiliated with USA
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You, as a customer, ignoring American fighters made other countries search for a source. Why did Pakistan turn to the Chinese J-10CE plane and ignore the search for more American fighters? America will not achieve the success in the fighter industry that was achieved in the F-4 and F-16 fighters in the future because alternatives are simply available. South Korea has become an alternative to American fighters, and South Korea wants to manufacture its own engine to get rid of any American restrictions on exporting future versions of its KF-21 plane. So, if America’s largest customer for fighters turns away from it, Turkey is forced to develop the F-16 fleet and is forced to buy more of them because it has no alternative but Its future local aircraft, if it succeeds in manufacturing an engine for it, that is, simply the market for fighter producers expands, and the American restrictions countries get rid of them.

In the Egyptian aircraft factory, there was an Egyptian engineer speaking to members of the Lockheed Materin delegation for years, perhaps 10 years, about the fact that Egypt was developing F-16 fighters. The American company said one thing: inform us of the updates because we cannot force you not to develop through us only as long as the American government does not respond to your requests.

The American-Egyptian point of contention for American weapons in Egypt is that America wants to develop F-16 fighters by developing a new mission computer that Egypt cannot modify or add any other ammunition that Egypt desires. Egypt refused, as it prefers F-16 BLOCK-40 fighters. Egypt can integrate weapons and ammunition and develop war ammunition. Electronics outside US control are better than the F-16 BLOCK-72
It places America in complete control over the fighter jets in the possession of the Egyptians. Egypt also rejects any American restrictions on the use of fighter jets in carrying out anti-terrorism missions, whether in Libya or Ethiopia, and the same applies to M1A1 tanks. Because of this, Egypt ignores any American fighter offers or American modernization outside the framework of the Egyptians’ desire to Controlling their fighters, as Egypt prefers old fighters that it can develop, and Egypt plays with the time factor of the F-16 as an old fighter. The factor controlling it by America is declining because America is focusing on fighters such as the F-35, and the F-16 is considered, like the F-5E fighter in 1981, an old plane, even if it was manufactured. It is modern and its performance is low, so Egypt incorporated Al-Tariq bombs without even caring about the Americans’ approval or disapproval, and not like some gullible Americans. They want to control the level of Egyptian weapons, so the Americans left the Egyptian arms market, and Egypt actually refuses to obtain weapons that it does not have the ability to control and prefers to buy fighters from countries that provide Egypt has the flexibility to develop it and integrate various ammunition on it. The French are smart and know that the flexibility of their weapons is the reason for marketing and high-priced fighters. This reason is not only for its quality but also for its authoritarianism. Egypt prefers France as a competing arms supplier, which is better than leaving America in control of the global arms market and restricting countries. All countries have come to hate America’s control and control. But it does not enter into a direct conflict with it, but rather leaves it to diminish its ability, even with the growth of the American economy over the past two years, but also the Eurasian-Chinese war against America will not embarrass a victorious America.
you have made many bold claims before but egypt being able to modify its f-16's as it pleases is perhaps the boldest. If that was the case, the regional balance of power would be far different. Please provide a proof or source for this because otherwise it is just daydreams.
 

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you have made many bold claims before but egypt being able to modify its f-16's as it pleases is perhaps the boldest. If that was the case, the regional balance of power would be far different. Please provide a proof or source for this because otherwise it is just daydreams.

I've learned being on here for a while that things can easily get lost in translation, and in the literal sense of the word not the figurative one.

As you know quite well, the United States already has specific mission computers in its export version of its F-16s, and that's for every single recipient, be it the zionist, the Turks, the Pakistanis, Egyptians etc. There is no such thing as the "US wanting to develop a new mission computer that Egypt cannot modify or add any other munition that it wants" like he said here:

The American-Egyptian point of contention for American weapons in Egypt is that America wants to develop F-16 fighters by developing a new mission computer that Egypt cannot modify or add any other ammunition that Egypt desires. Egypt refused, as it prefers F-16 BLOCK-40 fighters. Egypt can integrate weapons and ammunition and develop war ammunition. Electronics outside US control are better than the F-16 BLOCK-72

I'm pretty sure what he meant was that Egypt wanted access to the mission computers by requesting and obtaining the source codes which is the only way to integrate foreign munitions to an existing fighter jet.

The US already has mission computers specifically designed for US-made weapons only and the only way to get around that is to have the source codes to reprogram the software to not only fire the weapons, but to get them identified & guided via the AN/APG-68 radar. So I think that's what he was talking about and not the US wanting to change the mission computer to block Egypt from integrating. That's already the case anyway so it wouldn't make sense, right?

That's why Türkiye made a big stink about the source codes and finally got them since it was one of the few licensed assemblers of the F-16 and expanded the aircraft's exports for the its and the US' benefit. The zionist own the shameful American who bow down to every single wish made by the Jews so that's irrelevant. I don't even think Denmark gets the source codes and certainly no one else, for that matter.

So there is no such thing as the US wanting to change the mission computer. It's Egypt requesting the source codes and being denied, hence looking for other alternatives.

That point is even proven later with his mentioning of the Al Tariq missiles. We know they "installed" them on the F-16s but we have no idea if they were integrated through the aircraft's mission computer or remotely. Either the US allowed the integration and did the integration itself (since there is no way the US would give Egypt the source codes if it won't even supply the AIM-120 lol, the source codes are much more valuable than the AMRAAM), or the EAF incorporated the Al-Tariq's remote usage by tablet & either laser or GPS guidance. That would be the only way to circumvent the mission computer and that's what he must be referring to.

Same thing when he said this here.

In the Egyptian aircraft factory, there was an Egyptian engineer speaking to members of the Lockheed Materin delegation for years, perhaps 10 years, about the fact that Egypt was developing F-16 fighters. The American company said one thing: inform us of the updates because we cannot force you not to develop through us only as long as the American government does not respond to your requests.

Also pretty sure what he meant to say here is that Egypt was finding other ways to add different weapons systems to its F-16s and was going the traditional route of requesting the source codes from the US and the US wasn't responding. So it was doing its own thing and had been for 10 years and the US was turning a blind eye by ignoring the requests. This is true in a sense since we know that with the story about the Chinese delegation inspecting the F-16s. That was one of the primary reasons (just like @The SC said) of how the EAF was looking at other alternative to improve the F-16s weapons' capabilities, most likely in the A2A configuration.

They figured if the US is ignoring our requests for the source codes and seem to be turning a blind eye by telling us to "inform them of the updates" that they had the green light to go ahead with any way they saw fit. So they were trying to see the potential of installing the Chinese pylon adapter and I believe that finally drew the attention of the United States. They stopped ignoring Egypt's requests after that which led to the temporary blocking of the F-16 Block 52s and subsequently the reduction of the numbers from 24 to just 20. It also led to the Al-Tariqs AND, quite possibly what we saw in what looked like a newly modified AIM-7 Sparrow look-alike missile.

That all makes complete sense, but not developing the aircraft or free willingly modifying an entire F-16 aircraft. No way is that the case and that's what I mean by things getting lost in translation.
 

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you have made many bold claims before but egypt being able to modify its f-16's as it pleases is perhaps the boldest. If that was the case, the regional balance of power would be far different. Please provide a proof or source for this because otherwise it is just daydreams.

The process of hacking the source code is done and there is professionalism in countries such as China in methods such as hack attack
Even Egypt builds cadres for such matters
The process of rewriting operating programs and connecting them to a computer was actually done in different countries
Some people ignore that the F-16 is an old plane

We will go back to a previous history and previous operations

In 2009, there was an operation to transfer French ammunition to China, including MICA Excoset missiles, through a joint operation that included Pakistan, the Emirates, and Egypt to reproduce these weapons by reverse engineering for the benefit of the three countries. The operation was revealed when a C-130 transport plane landed in India to refuel by air. The Indians revealed the operation and it was covered up.
Egypt had requested to purchase an ANKA UAV on the condition that Egypt manufacture an important computer in 2012. Simply put, Egypt aims to develop capabilities in this field.
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Why is Egypt developing command and control systems, C4i and C5i, simply at the level of the main arms and weapons branches? It aims to integrate eastern and western weapons, so what about us? Egypt aims to control the aircraft and transfer data through the command and control systems for the various aircraft. So, the munitions point and integrating them is not more complicated.
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Source points: It is clear that some of you do not understand that I am talking about historical information. In 1988, when Egypt agreed to integrate American air-to-air missiles into Egyptian and Russian fighters, at that time the web was not widespread and newspapers were not electronic.
Egyptian-Indian cooperation programs, Egypt’s interest in Indian ammunition, and India’s interest in participating in Egyptian defense exhibitions and displaying its missiles there. Why is it a waste of time?
When Egypt turns to countries such as India, China and Turkey, it seeks low-cost solutions and more freedom to transfer weapons and technology. Interests have emerged over the past years in sites such as Tactical Report and others.

Before 2013, Egypt was using Turkey as a back door for American weapons banned from Egypt, such as 105 mm tank ammunition. America did not allow Egypt to export them due to Egypt’s possession of huge numbers of Ramses A and M60 tanks using this caliber. Egypt obtained from Turkey a center for maintenance, reconstruction and development of warehouses. Targeting and reconnaissance warehouses instead of going to American or French sources. These are examples of what Egypt obtained from the American weapons back door, and the same goes for Greece and others.
I will give you a very simple example. Egypt did not buy Kornet missiles directly from Russia before 2013, but in 2003 it obtained Kornet missiles via Bulgaria to supply 250 special forces in 2003. Simply put, what happens is that Egypt uses different sources.
In the October War, Egypt obtained limited numbers of LUNA FROG-7 missiles from Russia and obtained Iraq's stocks of these missiles.
The same goes for Egypt. Libya contracted for French MIRAGE-5 aircraft before 1973. The pilots who were trained on these aircraft were Egyptians with Libyan travel passports. Egypt used one or two squadrons of Mirage-3/5 fighters in the Actor War. Two Egyptian aircraft were intervening against a formation of Israeli Mirage fighters to scatter the aircraft, so they began. Israeli fighters chased each other thinking they were Egyptian

I will give you an example that some consider impossible, but it was done in preparation for the October 1973 war. Egypt asked British arms dealers for a very strange request, which was to buy two F-4 FANTOM planes. The English side got over the shock and informed the Egyptians of a response after 48 hours. What happened? They informed the Egyptians that the required aircraft and the required ammunition were ready for them. For sale at a certain price. The Egyptians bought it and used it in experiments to destroy a defensive line similar to the Israeli Bar Lev Line in the Ismailia area. Egypt even wanted to test American fighters and American ammunition against fortifications similar to what Asrabel carried out along the Suez Canal. Some will say this is impossible, but things are becoming clear. The Americans were announcing preparations. The losses of American planes in Vietnam are greater than the real numbers that fell in order to resell these fighters to international customers to whoever pays the price without the American administration or Air Force leaders knowing. Money buys everything with it, so when I say buying the source code for the F-16 Block 40 fighter or inventing it is not a miracle. Or one of the seven impossibilities. My responses include information from the history of many of you who were not born at that time, and the point of every word must have a source becomes extremely ridiculous for a simple reason. I rely on the logic and sequence of events and the times of sources that cannot be disclosed. Is it like the discussions I have at Egyptian weapons exhibitions with my representatives? Foreign companies supplying weapons to Egypt must have voice and video. Of course, this becomes very surprising
A country like Egypt bought declared weapons worth $40 billion, and production licenses and local weapons amounted to $20 billion, including secret weapons, in addition to executing tenders for the sale of weapons worth $10 billion. This is according to Israeli sources. What are the secret weapons that were sold to Egypt, undeclared weapons? Are countries arming an open book if they are? The militias are surprising the world's countries by possessing weapons that were not expected, let alone an old country in a burning region. We do not ask for ratification when we say, we are presenting our vision. We simply do not need claims or wait for approval from anyone, who in fact does not evaluate material values at all. Some call a policy of marginalization or weakening of one country in return. Strengthening other countries that were defeated politically and regionally
 

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The Great Wall of Egypt! Al-Sisi built one of the strongest defense lines in the world before the war! What is the secret?!

 

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I've learned being on here for a while that things can easily get lost in translation, and in the literal sense of the word not the figurative one.

As you know quite well, the United States already has specific mission computers in its export version of its F-16s, and that's for every single recipient, be it the zionist, the Turks, the Pakistanis, Egyptians etc. There is no such thing as the "US wanting to develop a new mission computer that Egypt cannot modify or add any other munition that it wants" like he said here:



I'm pretty sure what he meant was that Egypt wanted access to the mission computers by requesting and obtaining the source codes which is the only way to integrate foreign munitions to an existing fighter jet.

The US already has mission computers specifically designed for US-made weapons only and the only way to get around that is to have the source codes to reprogram the software to not only fire the weapons, but to get them identified & guided via the AN/APG-68 radar. So I think that's what he was talking about and not the US wanting to change the mission computer to block Egypt from integrating. That's already the case anyway so it wouldn't make sense, right?

That's why Türkiye made a big stink about the source codes and finally got them since it was one of the few licensed assemblers of the F-16 and expanded the aircraft's exports for the its and the US' benefit. The zionist own the shameful American who bow down to every single wish made by the Jews so that's irrelevant. I don't even think Denmark gets the source codes and certainly no one else, for that matter.

So there is no such thing as the US wanting to change the mission computer. It's Egypt requesting the source codes and being denied, hence looking for other alternatives.

That point is even proven later with his mentioning of the Al Tariq missiles. We know they "installed" them on the F-16s but we have no idea if they were integrated through the aircraft's mission computer or remotely. Either the US allowed the integration and did the integration itself (since there is no way the US would give Egypt the source codes if it won't even supply the AIM-120 lol, the source codes are much more valuable than the AMRAAM), or the EAF incorporated the Al-Tariq's remote usage by tablet & either laser or GPS guidance. That would be the only way to circumvent the mission computer and that's what he must be referring to.

Same thing when he said this here.



Also pretty sure what he meant to say here is that Egypt was finding other ways to add different weapons systems to its F-16s and was going the traditional route of requesting the source codes from the US and the US wasn't responding. So it was doing its own thing and had been for 10 years and the US was turning a blind eye by ignoring the requests. This is true in a sense since we know that with the story about the Chinese delegation inspecting the F-16s. That was one of the primary reasons (just like @The SC said) of how the EAF was looking at other alternative to improve the F-16s weapons' capabilities, most likely in the A2A configuration.

They figured if the US is ignoring our requests for the source codes and seem to be turning a blind eye by telling us to "inform them of the updates" that they had the green light to go ahead with any way they saw fit. So they were trying to see the potential of installing the Chinese pylon adapter and I believe that finally drew the attention of the United States. They stopped ignoring Egypt's requests after that which led to the temporary blocking of the F-16 Block 52s and subsequently the reduction of the numbers from 24 to just 20. It also led to the Al-Tariqs AND, quite possibly what we saw in what looked like a newly modified AIM-7 Sparrow look-alike missile.

That all makes complete sense, but not developing the aircraft or free willingly modifying an entire F-16 aircraft. No way is that the case and that's what I mean by things getting lost in translation.
It is also possible that the Signing by Egypt of the CISMOA was another attempt of getting those source codes and more high tech..
 

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Egypt is looking to achieve air superiority by acquiring more combat aircraft and ground-based missile defense systems
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Facing threats across the region, Egypt is looking to achieve air superiority through more fixed-wing military aircraft and ground-based missile defense systems.

Arab Defense Website June 5, 2024: Egypt’s latest list of acquisitions of defense platforms indicates its great need to secure its airspace in the region.

Egypt faces tense relations with Ethiopia, instability in Libya, tense relations with Israel, and the need to update its old programs dating back to the Soviet era.

According to the latest report by GlobalData (a data analytics and consulting company, headquartered in London, England) on Egypt's defense market, 2024-2029, the country is prioritizing several fighter aircraft and missile defense. These priorities indicate that the government's solution to its problems lies in air superiority.

Egypt will continue to modernize its fleet of combat aircraft, as the Republic seeks to acquire an additional 30 Rafale F4 fighter aircraft from France, in addition to the 24 units already delivered, in a deal worth $4.5 billion between 2027 and 2036.

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The Egyptian government is also seeking to acquire 46 F-15 aircraft from the United States, as the US ban on Russian military systems has prevented Egypt from obtaining Sukhoi Su-35 aircraft in 2021, aircraft that will now go to Iran.

In addition, Egypt is now seeking to acquire an Indian Akash surface-to-air missile defense system, a deal worth $3.8 billion over the next 10 years.

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Three years ago, there was a lot of talk that Egypt would obtain F-15 planes and place a squadron of them in the Sudanese Benishangul, which is now occupied by Ethiopia, to protect the sources of the Nile. These are sayings by some.
The other story: The United States offered to provide F-15 aircraft, and Egypt requested AIM-260 missiles as long-range missiles.
The third story is that Egypt will get rid of the Russian SU-35 fighters in exchange for F-15 fighters, and Egypt will give Ukraine MIG-29M fighters in exchange for Egypt getting the development of F-16 fighters, as well as a new batch of F-16 BLOCK 72 fighters.
The third story: The United States wants to develop military and economic cooperation with Egypt in exchange for reducing the volume of trade and industrial exchange with China and Russia, and for Egypt to be a promoter of American influence in Africa, given that Israel’s project has failed and the state will not last more than 10 additional years.

All of this remains within the realm of lies
For very simple reasons

Since 2003, Egypt has wanted to obtain non-American armament and for the American component to become limited. In fact, for 10 years, the American weapons presence in Egypt has been shrinking. The Americans offered American training aircraft to Egypt, and Egypt did not care about the American offers.
Egypt's armament plans and methods of using weapons require it to have no restrictions on the use of weapons to protect its national security and interests. Therefore, America restricts the use of weapons according to its desire. Whoever buys American weapons puts himself and his weapons hostage to America.
Egypt is not affiliated with America, nor is it affiliated with China or Russia, nor is it an ally, but rather an exchange of interests
There is no real indication of Egypt’s desire to buy advanced American weapons, nor any American desire to supply weapons to Egypt to meet its needs.
Indonesia was going to buy 36 F-15 fighters worth $13 billion, and the Indonesians were reluctant to even accept the American offer because Indonesia’s trade exchange with America was largely in favor of Indonesia, while Egypt’s trade exchange with America was largely in favor of America.
Also, the price of Russian MIG-35 fighters is average at $50 million, including ammunition in a large package. Egypt bought 52 MIG-29M/M2 fighters, including 300 WVR missiles, a BVR 300 missile, and 100-200KH31 missiles.
100-200 KH35 and large numbers of KH-29 and KH-36, and I want the American one to double the price with the same performance.

The same story: 32 SU-35s worth $3,400 million and a huge package of weapons accompanying them
Russian offers for the next batch of Russian fighters at a better price than the first batch, despite global inflation. There are no Russian restrictions on Samar’s use of Russian weapons against any country, and the Russians have no restrictions even on integrating Eastern or Western munitions into their fighters or until Egypt develops Russian fighters with radars, warehouses, or electronic warfare systems. From any source, there is simply no greater flexibility than what the Russians offer

The other point is that Egypt benefited from the Russian-Ukrainian war, whether in transferring technology from Russia or even receiving Russian investments, while America used it as economic pressure against Egypt. So how can some people imagine that America is imposing economic pressure on Egypt and Egypt will obtain advanced American weapons?
Western sources are both skeptical about Egyptian armament or the Egyptian economy, and they also widely publish that Egypt canceled deals with the Russians out of fear of America. All of this has not been proven to be true. The Russians were not stupid to leave the international arms market, but rather provided India, Egypt and Algeria with licenses to produce weapons, even heavy weapons, in accordance with their desires. Each of them and India chose to be a source of spare parts and components for Russian weapons in exchange for expanding the scope of commercial dealings

We are now in the middle of 2024, and the lie about supplying F-15 fighters to Egypt has not been completed. Moreover, the political situation makes there a Western fear of exporting weapons to Egypt. The slowness in supplying weapons to Egypt for fear of the outbreak of any war between Egypt and Israel. All of this makes America more reluctant to perpetuate advanced weapons for Egypt. Then there are other factors
If Turkey signs a contract to purchase 40 F-16 fighters, it will receive the first plane after 3 years, that is, simply in 2027 at the earliest. Any Egyptian contract will be after 4 years, meaning that Egypt will wait until 2028 at the very least to obtain any American fighter that Egypt requests.
While there are other Russian and Chinese solutions that are faster
 

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