First specs of Turkish AC project

[xbat]

i have never heard 3 aircraft carriers , why do some posters insist to post that idiot account?

 

[eIsQengiz]

Oh not again this fan-boy! Come on ... even one ac until 2035 would be a feat but "3 Turkish Type Aircraft Carriers by 2035" is even more ridiculous that some Indian wet-dreams.

The anti-Turkish circke jerks are here. This tweet cannot and should not be taken out of context, as having this ability does not mean delegating it all within the time frame. Firstly, the order date is within the realm of possibility if you compare it to similar projects such as HMS Queen Elizabeth, et al, which were built within just 5-6 years of the project being announced. If you talk to those cockfest about the Turkey 2020s resolution and denigrate MMM_E, what will vilified when he says to wait for the design of flying wings and unmanned fighter jets concept and does not think that the Turkish country can start a war in a short time? time? Now you start having the same WET DREAM about it. Keep denying it.

 

[lacy]

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This is utter bullshit. How many times have we wrote that this twitter account has no connection to reality. He writes his fantasy. I mean how can any sensible person believe that claim? The project's design has just been started and the dude claims 3 ACs by 2035. Have some common-sense people!

Need I remind anyone how many years did TF2000's design took(still ongoing btw)?

 

[MMM-E]

He says 3 ACs as of 2035

maybe
He consider 232 m TCG ANADOLU as an Aircraft Carrier
and TCG TRAKYA maybe on agenda
also 285 m Aircraft Carrier

otherwise Turkiye can not build 3 Aircraft Carriers until 2035

232 m TCG ANADOLU is also a light Aircraft Carrier to carry navalized HURJET and KIZILELMA

 

[hyperman]

He says 3 ACs as of 2035

maybe
He consider 232 m TCG ANADOLU as an Aircraft Carrier
and TCG TRAKYA maybe on agenda
also 285 m Aircraft Carrier

otherwise Turkiye can not build 3 Aircraft Carriers until 2035

232 m TCG ANADOLU is also a light Aircraft Carrier to carry navalized HURJET and KIZILELMA
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Yeah thats probably what he means, Anandolu(already commisioned), anadolu class # 2(Trakya) and then the 3rd bigger carrier.

Technically its 2 amphibious assault ships and 1 aircraft carrier.

Although Trayka might be cancelled, I haven't heard much about it, since the new aircraft carrier news.

There are also rumors about other countries buying Anadolu based ships, like the UAE and Indonesia.

 

[LegionnairE]

He says 3 ACs as of 2035

maybe
He consider 232 m TCG ANADOLU as an Aircraft Carrier
and TCG TRAKYA maybe on agenda
also 285 m Aircraft Carrier

otherwise Turkiye can not build 3 Aircraft Carriers until 2035

I find it idiotic even if we could.

Instead of 3 STOBAR floating shits I'd rather have 1 proper CV akin to Nimitz class.

I say Nimitz but electromagnetic catapults are a necessity. More so for Turkey than America.

 

[MMM-E]

Instead of 3 STOBAR floating shits I'd rather have 1 proper CV akin to Nimitz class.

I say Nimitz but electromagnetic catapults are a necessity. More so for Turkey than America.

France may pay $1,3 billion to buy EMALS catapult system from USA for using it on future Aircraft Carrier

btw 3 STOBAR Aircraft Carriers far better than 1 NIMITZ class AC

even navalized KAAN with 2 x 35.000 lbs engines can take off from 285 m STOBAR Aircraft Carrier which has ski jump

KAAN Turkiye
Length: 21 m
Gross weight: 25.000 kg
Powerplant: 2 × TF-35.000 turbofan engines, (2 x 35.000 lbf)


SU-33 Russia
Length: 21.19 m
Gross weight: 29,940 kg
Powerplant: 2 × Saturn AL-31F3 turbofan engines, (2 x 28,200 lbf)

SU-33 takes off from Admiral Kuznetsov Aircraft Carrier STOBAR

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J-15 China
Length: 22.28 m
Gross weight: 27,000 kg
Powerplant: 2 × WS-10B turbofan engines, (2 x 30.000 lbf)

J-15 takes off from Shandong Aircraft Carrier STOBAR

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[Indos]

There are also rumors about other countries buying Anadolu based ships, like the UAE and Indonesia.

Indonesian PAL is likely the shipyard to build the LHD for our Navy

 

[Harbyharb]

I find it idiotic even if we could.

Instead of 3 STOBAR floating shits I'd rather have 1 proper CV akin to Nimitz class.

I say Nimitz but electromagnetic catapults are a necessity. More so for Turkey than America.

Don't baselessly attack STOBAR designs. Yes, they are inferior to CATOBAR, but you have to realize exactly why they are inferior, and inferior in what aspect.

The lazy answer of "Oh STOBAR doesn't allow jets to carry full payload" doesn't give you the full picture. On Pr.1143.5 "heavy aircraft-carrying cruisers" there are 3 take-off points, 2 closer to the bow and one starting further back rear. While the forward-most 2 does indeed pose strict limitations on takeoff weight, the rearmost takeoff route enables much greater liberty at the expense of the sortie rate. This setup provides the 1143.5 designs with a flexible option, either to use short-takeoff routes with higher sortie rates to provide greater CAP cover for the fleet or conduct attack sorties with greater payload. In fact, a lot of the newer STOBAR designs such as INS Vikramaditya and INS Vikrant do not have short takeoff points at all and are entirely optimized for heavy take-offs at the expense of peak possible sortie rate.

If Turkey intends to build carriers not as supercarriers contending against a near-peer foe, but rather just to enable power projection within its sphere of influence, then conventional STOBAR carriers are very much a more realistic and economic choice.

 

[eIsQengiz]

Indonesian PAL is likely the shipyard to build the LHD for our Navy

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TCG Anadolu is based on the Spanish Navy amphibious assault aircraft carrier Juan Carlos I (L-61). The 58-meter-tall ship can be equipped with the Turkish combat management system GENESIS-ADVENT. What is the function of onboard and subsystem local sensors based on?​

 

[LegionnairE]

While the forward-most 2 does indeed pose strict limitations on takeoff weight, the rearmost takeoff route enables much greater liberty at the expense of the sortie rate. .

Let's empty the whole flight deck because 1 KE has to take off sounds brilliant mate.

China isn't investing so much on EMALS just to improve sortie rate. it's because STOBAR is shit. Every navy worth its salt discovered this.

 

[MMM-E]

one Gerald R Ford class costs more than 30 Anadolu Class LHDs not 3 These Americans must be idiots amirite?

I did not say GRF class Aircraft Carrier costs 3 ANADOLU class LHD

I said that 3 STOBAR Aircraft Carriers far better than 1 NIMITZ Aircraft Carrier for the Turkish Navy



And We can not build a Nuclear powered Aircraft Carrier with EMALS catapult System without USA .... And USA never can give these technologies to Turkiye even we pay billions of Dollars


A STOBAR Aircraft Carrier will be enough for Turkiye to operate in the Eastern Mediterranean , horn of Africa and Indian Ocean

Turkiye will use stealth platforms like KIZILELMA , ANKA-3 and maybe even navalized KAAN on Aircraft Carrier in 2035

We dont need full payload capacity in beast mode

the most impotant thing is stealth capability .... to carry missiles in internal weapon bays

 

[LegionnairE]

A STOBAR Aircraft Carrier will be enough for Turkiye to operate in the Eastern Mediterranean , horn of Africa and Indian Ocean

If you wanna go there 0 aircraft carrier is enough for Turkey. You open airbases in Somalia, Libya and Cyprus and you can reach everywhere within hours.

 

[LegionnairE]

Wow you got some jokes haha now long shawarma isn't enough for a racist shit.

@Waz can we get the kids off the stage?

 

[Musings]

Guys please respect each other