First specs of Turkish AC project

[hyperman]

it's pretty shameful if you can make nuclear weapons but not a simple pressurized water reactor.

Thats b/c one is more difficult than the other. lol

Even China has not developed a nuclear reactor for Aircraft carriers, the soviets opted for conventional power on theirs, and the French needed American help with their first nuclear carrier. Nothing embarassing/shameful about that.

 

[GatlingGun]

it's pretty shameful if you can make nuclear weapons but not a simple pressurized water reactor.

But both India and Turkey's biggest problem is that the carrier based fighter options are so shitty.

Weapons and pressurised miniaturised reactors are not same.

India has ordered 26 Rafales for Vikrant and building Rafale-esque TEDBF for our future carriers.

HAL TEDBF - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Not dabbling with 5th gen CBF yet.

 

[drkrn86]

Nothing to do with Greece. AC is the last thing you need against a neighbouring country which is in reach by different means.

Aircrafts are floating airfields.
Indian aircraft carrier did wonders in 1971 war against Pakistan.

 

[RedBeard]

1. Diesel generators and electric propulsion accomplishes the same thing

2. What objectives does Turkey have in Atlantic or Indian oceans?

Colonialism race ended 110 years ago. We're a bit late to the party.

The Turkish navy wants it. According to ret. Admiral Cihat Yaycı things would be different if we had them 10 years ago.

Powerprojection, anti-terror ops on the other side of the world , humanitarian missions etc.

 

[LegionnairE]

The Turkish navy wants it. According to ret. Admiral Cihat Yaycı things would be different if we had them 10 years ago.

Powerprojection, anti-terror ops on the other side of the world , humanitarian missions etc.

There's nothing more normal for a naval officer to have naval ambitions, everybody thinks their field is the most important. But did Cihat Yaycı say what planes he wanted on this hypothetical carrier? Are Americans going to sell us Super Hornets in this political climate?

We don't even have enough fighters in the Turkish Air Force. What's this urgent need for power projection in other parts of the world when we're outgunned in our own backyard?

 

[RedBeard]

There's nothing more normal for a naval officer to have naval ambitions, everybody thinks their field is the most important. But did Cihat Yaycı say what planes he wanted on this hypothetical carrier? Are Americans going to sell us Super Hornets in this political climate?

Hurjet will be devellopped in different variants, a navalized version of Hurjet is not unimaginable.

 

[LegionnairE]

Weapons and pressurised miniaturised reactors are not same.

India has ordered 26 Rafales for Vikrant and building Rafale-esque TEDBF for our future carriers.

HAL TEDBF - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Not dabbling with 5th gen CBF yet.

Obviously, but you can safely assume that Indian universities physics departments are better funded due to having a nuclear program. I can go into details and go on and on until the morning, derailing the thread. But I think you understand what I mean.

Rafale isn't an amazing solution but it is a solution. Alas, Turkey doesn't even have access to that.

Hurjet will be devellopped in different variants, a navalized version of Hurjet is not unimaginable.

it's not, it's just a shitty option.

Mind you, we didn't even make the trainer version yet. and considering the fact that even today, an F-16 Block 50 being as inadequate, what use could navalized hürjet be in 2030ies and 40ies?

Do I really need to elaborate more?

 

[GatlingGun]

Hurjet will be devellopped in different variants, a navalized version of Hurjet is not unimaginable.

Single engine Naval aircraft ?? If no, will it even be a hurjet derivative.

 

[Faceless]

simple pressurized water reactor.

Say what now
Miniature Pressurized water reactor are infinitely more harder than nukes.

Even China has not developed a nuclear reactor for Aircraft carriers, Soviets opted for Conventional powerplant even though they took nuclear research so seriously.

The French needed substantial American help with their first nuclear carrier.

Also FYI We do have miniature Pressurized water reactor, how else do you think we power our SSBNs however making one powerful enough for an aircraft carrier is far harder

 

[LegionnairE]

Also FYI We do have miniature Pressurized water reactor, how else do you think we power our SSBNs however making one powerful enough for an aircraft carrier is far harder

Doesn't really make much sense to me, you could put 2-3 of the same ones in an aircraft carrier, there's lots of space, what's the issue?

 

[War Lord]

Power projection, especially with Greece.

Greece is right next door lol

 

[War Lord]

Why do you limit its role to Mediterranean Sea when its literally able to operate anywhere in the world.

But it can't lol

It has a range which can be extended by refuelling ofc.

Does Turkey have enough assets to protect it?

 

[Oublious]

But it can't lol

It has a range which can be extended by refuelling ofc.

Does Turkey have enough assets to protect it?

untill the AC project is delivered we will have TF2000 4 AAW frigate 8500 ton, 8 i-class frigatte, 4 Barbaros frigatte, 4 Ada-class corvette, 10 HISAR-class corvette, 6 AIP Reis class submarine, 4 Gur class submarine, 4 Preveze class submarine all modern subs. Against Agean Sea we will have STM500 ton subs and what the most suits for carrier group will be MILDEN 2800+ ton AIP sub.

 

[MMM-E]

But it can't lol

It has a range which can be extended by refuelling ofc.

Does Turkey have enough assets to protect it?

New Weapons of the Turkish Navy in the next 10 years

-- 1 Aircraft Carrier
-- 8 ISTIF class Frigates
-- 4 modernized MEKO-200 class Frigates
-- 4 TF-2000 class Destroyers
-- 10 HISAR class OPVs
-- 6 Type-214TN ( REIS ) class AIP Submarines
also MILDEN class AIP Submarine project



Upcoming Carrier Strike Goup in 2035

1 Aircraft Carrier
2 TF-2000 class Destroyers
2 ISTIF class Frigates
2 Type-214TN ( REIS ) class AIP Submarines
1 Sea Supply Combat Support Ship

ISTIF class Frigate

TF-2000 class Destroyer 166m

Type-214TN ( REIS ) class AIP Submarine


TCG DERYA Sea Supply Combat Support Ship 200m

also MILDEN class AIP Submarine

Aircraft Carrier 285m


If needed TCG ANADOLU can join the Carrier Strike Group



even in the coming years AS-3600 Frigate can be officially added to the Turkish Navy modernization project

64 cells MIDLAS VLS to carry great fire power

-- 64x SAPAN SAMs 40+ km
-- 32x SIPER SAMs 150+ km
-- 16x GEZGIN Cruise Missiles 1.000 km

and 8x ATMACA anti-ship Missiles 220+ km

 

[RedBeard]

Obviously, but you can safely assume that Indian universities physics departments are better funded due to having a nuclear program. I can go into details and go on and on until the morning, derailing the thread. But I think you understand what I mean.

Rafale isn't an amazing solution but it is a solution. Alas, Turkey doesn't even have access to that.


it's not, it's just a shitty option.

Mind you, we didn't even make the trainer version yet. and considering the fact that even today, an F-16 Block 50 being as inadequate, what use could navalized hürjet be in 2030ies and 40ies?

Do I really need to elaborate more?

I agree with Hurjet it will not be capable enough to use as a fighter however things change when its about Kaan.

Please watch this, according to Dr. Eray Güçlüer Kaan will be devellopped in 3 variants including VTOL.

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