Full Text of Controversial Imran Khan Cypher Released

[PakAl]

Bro, what do you propose political parties do?

I would personally hate PMLN, PPP for requesting US to sanction Pakistan, curse the Army Chief & institutions, Dawn Leaks, Memo gates. The PTI is somewhat in the same boat.

Look deeper, whats the underlying constant that forces politicians to do this.

This time as I mentioned above, as a result of overthrowing the previous government, sweets weren’t distributed but they came out and sang the anthem. A tacit message to the all powerful that enough of these games.

After all these rolas I propose all political parties and the establishment to give and take, reach some kind of agreement so everyone stays out of each other business, then agree on free and fair elections and winner takes the seat. This is so we can move on as a nation, similar to Turkey and Indonesia, both nations had plenty of military interventions but now the situation is alot better. The political instability, name calling, conspiring against each other and the rest harms the nation and economy. We need to work together to build a powerful Pakistan, we have high potential. The people of Pakistan also need to rise up and demand this.

 

[Jango]

The definitive economic blow came in February 2022 when He introduced an unbudgeted fuel and electricity subsidy package that cost up to Rs. 300 billion monthly; this populist move directly violated Pakistan's agreement with the IMF, freezing the program, draining central bank reserves, and leaving the country on the absolute brink of default.

1- It wasn't 300 billion PKR monthly. Are you seriously saying the government of Pakistan was giving a US$ 1 billion dollar a month subsidy on fuel? Our fuel import was at an all time high this April....where we imported fuel product worth US$ 964 million in April 2026.

So how the heck was IK giving a 300 billion a month subsidy back in 2022?

Kuch aur maheenon main log kahain gay IK gave a 300 million PKR a day subsidy! Or the reason it got so hot in Pakistan? Water issues? Everything under the sun? Meri khala kay bete ka rishta?

2- Do you know how much subsidy the current setup is giving on fuel? (Hint, it's 3 digit millions)

I mean you wanna do IK bashing or whatever, but either stick to actual numbers, or keep it general. But at least do not make claims on "definitive economic blows" on fake numbers dude.

Idhr abhi tak 300 billion saal ki subsidy par rona araha hai, while your current government is shoving loans down your throat at 7 times markup just got getting 150 billion and doing everything it can to screw over the salaried person and avoid it's own incompetencies in taxation? I think that's a more pressing problem than the 300 billion "monthly" subsidy in 2022

 

[VCheng]

Makes sense but another political reality is millions of people since 1977 have gone to foreign nations, made millions and now have a strong voice, they now want their foothold in Pakistan aswell as foreign nations, they have made connections in foreign nations, have their own interests, so they also want a big piece of cake.

Just because now they want a big piece of the cake does not mean they will get it. Sure, they can try all they want. Please go ahead.

Thus far, projecting influence from aborad is not working, despite the odd statement from a lobbyist-inspired Congresscritter or two. What is clear is that social media echo chambers run from abroad have absolutely failed, and will remain ineffective.

I just know it is not stable. It had buffers and was cyclic in nature (army has been at the front foot and then the back foot). It should change according to precedence, in addition to the falling economy and unpopularity. Every declining power dies out fighting.

It has been stable, now in buffer and going towards instability.

Public, judges, journalists, junior generals, etc., acceptance (before) and incumbency (now) are the main guarantors of the current system.

Till a level is reached, where a nudge takes the system ti instability.

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You just "know"? How, exactly?

What you posted above is your personal opinion, with no data, or a factual basis for what you are claiming.

 

[VCheng]

a campaign driven on this cipher by a man unwilling to accept he was outmaneuvered in politics & statecraft due to his own ego and compromises made for his personal subservience to a unprincipled spouse

.... ended quite predictably, as we can see, and nearly four years ago at that.

(That quote above is written masterfully.)

 

[Goenitz]

You just "know"? How, exactly?

What you posted above is your personal opinion, with no data, or a factual basis for what you are claiming.

A predictable economic model is required to sustain instability. If there is none and the regime is not* working towards it, then we should "know" that.
*Betting on foreign aid, investment in SFC, etc., are hopes.

 

[Auqab13]

After all these rolas I propose all political parties and the establishment to give and take, reach some kind of agreement so everyone stays out of each other business, then agree on free and fair elections and winner takes the seat. This is so we can move on as a nation, similar to Turkey and Indonesia, both nations had plenty of military interventions but now the situation is alot better. The political instability, name calling, conspiring against each other and the rest harms the nation and economy. We need to work together to build a powerful Pakistan, we have high potential. The people of Pakistan also need to rise up and demand this.

end the political party system in general arrest Imran, Sharif, Zardari, Bhutto, Fazl Rahman, and there cronies or put them in exile.

 

[PakAl]

end the political party system in general arrest Imran, Sharif, Zardari, Bhutto, Fazl Rahman, and there cronies or put them in exile.

Will not happen, Pakistan has moved on from martial laws etc. The new project is hybrid regime (until it lasts)

 

[Hazard]

It's quite pointless releasing this news now. It is unlikely to make any political difference.

What is important to note is that this hybrid farce regime has been in power for 4 years and has failed to provide any vision or solutions for any of the country's pressing problems.

The average Pakistani is brain dead, and gladly sell his vote for a plate of biryani. Pakistan gets the rulers it deserves.

 

[PakAl]

The average Pakistani is brain dead, and gladly sell his vote for a plate of biryani. Pakistan gets the rulers it deserves.

In AJK people sell it for a tarmac road, no joke. Whichever leader makes the road gets the vote.

 

[Watandar]

The average Pakistani is brain dead, and gladly sell his vote for a plate of biryani. Pakistan gets the rulers it deserves.

I accept this. I would just say that we can find such average voters in established democracies like the US and UK as well. As Churchill commented "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."

But that does not mean that autocracy is better than democracy.

 

[That_Guy]

I was clearly referring to the cipher saga.

Okay, but what specifically did he do?

The point is that Pakistan has moved on from the IK era.

It has not.

The difference here is between idealism and realism. You may think that the establishment needs to be run through a meat grinder, but I know that there is no practical way to do that..

It has been in the past, which is why overt coups are no longer possible. This is why they're forced to share power with the civilian government.

Further, it will be impossible to do that from abroad, which is where the majority of the social media noise originates from, while claiming widespread public support within Pakistan that never materializes.

You mean a majority that PTI got, that was proven stolen...never materialized.

Look, I dont know if you haven't been paying attention, or you're just trying to push your own narrative, but this is clearly not true.

Just how many more failed initiatives to protest for IK's release does one need as proof?

The initiatives to protest didn't fail, they protests happened.

They were brutally crushed, but they happened.

You're being deliberately disingenuous.

Please carry on hoping and wishing for that tomorrow in Pakistan, while living life abroad.

I go back and forth. I have family in Pakistan as well.

But please, go on attacking me as a foreigner. All it does it prove that you have no actual argument to make.

 

[Goenitz]

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[KingQamaR]

The question then is, Why now?

Who published it? Cui Bono...
The opposition in Pakistan... resentment towards military to bring back the previous set up or... ones who instigated it now putting their foot on the tail to make them do something...

Is it US now pressuring Pakistan to do its bidding... another "Do More" moment? A move to do something on foreign policy?

Who or what it might be to time it now is the question... the former premier was walked off the cliff by those who carried him along... to bring back the coterie of tried and failed back to power... what gives...

Anyone who exposes Pakistani politicians & militarily Corruption anywhere in this criminal act is a Hero... What Pakistani people have to do for truth, a sad world we live in.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Anyone who exposes Pakistani politicians & militarily Corruption anywhere in this criminal act is a Hero... What Pakistani people have to do for truth, a sad world we live in.

This!
It is exactly why it is so easy to control the narrative. Because it's so easy to be a wolf in sheep's clothing.

 

[Goenitz]

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