Gaza-Israel Conflict | 2023-2024

[Antonius123]

Again its the zionist who are the invaders and colonialists. Palestinians are rightfully resisting a takeover of their ancestral land.

One more thing: a occupied peoole has the right to resist wuth violence according to internation law. But the occupying force does not have the “right to self defence” in that case.

These all are just one sided claim by arab nations which is considered irrationale by world. UN didn't and never buy it.

Jews purchased properties from local arab in Palestine, not robbing or stealling as you guys like to accuse, it was documented and proven. During the nakba 1948 arab Palestine were not expelled but they had chosen to flee away and become refugee and as refugee they defied and said something bad against Israel government so Israel government didn't view them could be a good citizen if they come back, and Israel also received a lot of jewish refugees from arab nations.

Jewish land purchase in Palestine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So your fighting to resist is based on this claim which is considered ridiculous.

Arab Palestine had always rejected Israel peace offer and UN resolutions for the peace and chosen war/violence instead for their illegal claim. Unfortunately for them they lost and now they are crying for what they perceived as injustice.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

Bhai kis duniya mein reh raha hai, two state solution died the day Rabin and Americans pulled a fast one on the quintessentially gullible and complicit Arafat/PLO with the Oslo accords. While they compelled Palestinians to keep their end of the bargain, Israelis with support from each successive US president continued to build up settlements rendering the two-state solution untenable.

Thats why I said United Nations is a failure. I still think two state solution is the best solution to the problem.

 

[Lehrasap]

Again its the zionist who are the invaders and colonialists. Palestinians are rightfully resisting a takeover of their ancestral land.

One more thing: a occupied people has the right to resist wuth violence according to internation law. But the occupying force does not have the “right to self defence” in that case.

Ukrainians forexample have the right to resist Russian invasion, if neccesary with violence. But Russia cannot claim “right to self-defence” in this situation, in order to justify further attack on Ukrainians.

Are you able to see Double Standards here where you claim that Azerbaijan has a right to Nagorno Karabakh and that resistance by the Armenian population of Nagorno Karabakh is illegal, but at the same time you claim the total opposite in the Israel/Palestinian issue?

Zionists may have been invaders in the PAST, but today Israel is a reality. If you deny Israel's right to exist today, then you cannot hide behind International law.

Hamas and all others (who deny Israel's right to exist) cannot be considered as resistance today according to International law.

How can you expect Israel to follow international law and not attack Palestinian civilians, but then you allow the killing of Israeli civilians by Hamas and the destruction of the whole Israeli state against International law?

 

[hussain0216]

Same story before 7th October. Your side is the side who always refuse peace then start the attack and invasion then after loss they cry out for suffering/injustice/violence against humanity/ genocide/etc.

And even if it was Israel who started before 7th October, then what result do you expect from the 7th October attack?
a. destruction of israel as a nation
b. IDF paralizyed?
c. Israel will be sitting idle and being permissive to hamas?

I dont think any of those options will happened. Dont you? Has hamas calculated these all including the how many civilian will die due to retaliation?

Resistance against a occupier isn't easy, nor is it free

You keep fighting until your people are free


MUSLIMS fought the crusaders for 100 years to free Palestine

Why would they give up against the Jews after 75?

It's a continuous struggle, to stop a treaty or peace with a occupier until you can put yourself in a place to get justice and victory

 

[Mr X]

Guys please discuss without attacking each other. Using words like moron or inciting hate speech will do no good to anyone. It will only lead to warnings and post deletion

 

[hussain0216]

These all are just one sided claim by arab nations which is considered irrationale by world. UN didn't and never buy it.

Jews purchased properties from local arab in Palestine, not robbing or stealling as you guys like to accuse, it was documented and proven. During the nakba 1948 arab Palestine were not expelled but they had chosen to flee away and become refugee and as refugee they defied and said something bad against Israel government so Israel government didn't view them could be a good citizen if they come back, and Israel also received a lot of jewish refugees from arab nations.

Jewish land purchase in Palestine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So your fighting to resist is based on this claim which is considered ridiculous.

Arab Palestine had always rejected Israel peace offer and UN resolutions for the peace and chosen war/violence instead for their illegal claim. Unfortunately for them they lost and now they are crying for what they perceived as injustice.

If you buy some land or houses

How the hell can you declare a Jew state over the entire land a d millions of Palestinians???

What are you talking about

Why the hell would their be peace with a foreign Jew state that is set up as a colonial state in the middle east

 

[Antonius123]

Thats why I said United Nations is a failure. I still think two state solution is the best solution to the problem.

Then what about their aspiration to rule from the river to the sea? will they be willing to abandon it for the peace?

 

[SaadH]

There is no such thing as embarrassment in international geopolitics.

Ironically, embarrassment was all the rage in the western capitals just a year ago with regards to Russia and Ukraine and at Russia's expense.

 

[Antonius123]

If you buy some land or houses

How the hell can you declare a Jew state over the entire land a d millions of Palestinians???

What are you talking about

Why the hell would their be peace with a foreign Jew state that is set up as a colonial state in the middle east

Entire Palestian? Not entire, but just partially in fact. It was and is always arab Palestinian that want entire land for themshelf.

Israel accept UN offer for partition land 1947, but arab rejected and want use violence instead.

 

[VCheng]

Ironically, embarrassment was all the rage in the western capitals just a year ago with regards to Russia and Ukraine and at Russia's expense.

LOL. Please do not confuse between fodder for the public and real policies.

 

[Lehrasap]

Bhai kis duniya mein reh raha hai, two state solution died the day Rabin and Americans pulled a fast one on the quintessentially gullible and complicit Arafat/PLO with the Oslo accords in 1994. While they compelled Palestinians to keep their end of the bargain, Israelis with support from each successive US president continued to build up settlements rendering the two-state solution untenable.

I request you to please understand that this world is not 100% perfect and we, as humans, have to make a lot more information to bring justice to this world.

Nevertheless, the Western world didn't recognise Israeli illegal settlements. But if extremists come in power (like Trump), then the situation will change.

Violent resistance in the name of Jihad is not a way to go. But a peaceful resistance is a way to go.

Just look at peaceful resistance in South Africa, which indeed brought success.

Yes, it took decades in South Africa till the peaceful resistance brought success, but this should serve as an example in these modern times.

 

[SaadH]

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U.S., Allies Give Houthis Ultimatum: Stop Ship Attacks or Face Consequences​

American military readies options to strike Iran-backed rebel group​

U.S., Allies Give Houthis Ultimatum: Stop Ship Attacks or Face Consequences

The American military is preparing options to strike the Iran-backed rebel group.

www.wsj.com

Saudis will full backing of western genocide powers tried as well...nothing came out of it...

 

[SaadH]

LOL. Please do not confuse between fodder for the public and real policies.

Of course you were one of the biggest consumers of that fodder...

How does it feel to come off your high horse...

 

[hussain0216]

Entire Palestian? Not entire, but just partially in fact. It was and is always arab Palestinian that want entire land for themshelf.

Israel accept UN offer for partition land 1947, but arab rejected and want use violence instead.

Of Courtney rejected it,, why would they give up their land to be stolen by foreign Jews

The Palestinians have lands and homes their and the Jews came from outside and want to declare a Jew state

Why would Palestinians accept that, it make no sense

Do you think Palestinians are native Americans or aboriginals that they should just accept this injustice from the Jew criminals

 

[Antonius123]

Resistance against a occupier isn't easy, nor is it free

You keep fighting until your people are free


MUSLIMS fought the crusaders for 100 years to free Palestine

Why would they give up against the Jews after 75?

It's a continuous struggle, to stop a treaty or peace with a occupier until you can put yourself in a place to get justice and victory

Again... this is your naration and considered irrationale by international community. In fact international community recognize and accept Israel as a soverign nation.

They established a country in 1948 in land without government without invading other sovereign nation, and in compliant with UN resolution.

So there is no occupation that they are fighting for in fact.