HAL LCA Tejas: Updates, News & Discussions

[Deino]

F16 is a 4th generation fighter jet or a 4.5 generation fighter jet?

Why diverting from your stupid post with an irrelevant comment?

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

Today Our Tejas programme is at the same stage where our SPACE programme was 20 years ago

At that time too , People used to laugh at our Space Ambitions

It is OK. We just need to Keep calm and wait for some time

Everything will be OK

 

[Bhojpuranchali]

Came on … just the recent reports mentioned that the Kaveri is just being prepared for 80kN, the one with the higher thrust is a plan, a project and so far nothing is signed with France or anyone.
As such your post is again pure chest-bumping and feel-good but bare any substance.

And regarding this BS, the J-20 is not a fifth generation type and other similar BLAHBLAH, the source is surely again this famous retired Air Marshal who is also a Rafale test pilot.

Rafale superior to Chinese J-20: A comparison of the two fighter jets

Even though Rafale is a 4.5 generation aircraft and China claims that its J-20 is a 5th generation, the Rafale has enough capabilities to counter the Chinese premier aircraft, say experts.

www.indiatoday.in

The current 80 kN Kaveri engine is being installed in Tejas as a proof of concept and for data collection. The production variant, called Kaveri 2, will have over 90 kN of thrust. HAL has negotiated and finalized their requirements with Safran and Rolls-Royce. The Indian government will soon announce the partner for developing a new 110 kN engine for the AMCA.

Regarding the J-20, it was then-serving IAF Chief Mr. Dhanoa who stated in an official press conference that the J-20 is not a fifth-generation fighter jet. If you reject the statement of the IAF Chief, then you must believe you know more about fighter jets than he does. I don't claim to know more about air warfare than any Air Force chief in the world.

 

[Bhojpuranchali]

Today Our Tejas programme is at the same stage where our SPACE programme was 20 years ago

At that time too , People used to laugh at our Space Ambitions

It is OK. We just need to Keep calm and wait for some time

Everything will be OK

This backstabbing by US will only make India stronger. Tejas MK1B will come with the Kaveri engine, more powerful avionics, higher payload, and longer range. Remember, the Tejas MK1 FOC has a higher range, payload, and better avionics than Tejas IOC. Tejas MK1A is even better, with a payload of 5.3 tons and a combat range of 749 km, which no other light fighter jet in the world can match—not even the Much bigger and heavier F-16, which has a combat range of just 550 km.
As for the Tejas MK2, I think the American F414 engine is out of the question. It will likely come with a French or Russian engine, or maybe even the Kaveri.

 

[silicon0000]

Today Our Tejas programme is at the same stage where our SPACE programme was 20 years ago

At that time too , People used to laugh at our Space Ambitions

It is OK. We just need to Keep calm and wait for some time

Everything will be OK

No. Indian Space Program is always with better vision and they always strive for success. Even indian navy has better people but indian air-force is full of look busy do nothing people.

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

No Indian Space Program is always with better vision and they always strive for success. Even indian navy has better people but indian air-force is full of look busy do nothing people.

You should advise your own Government

 

[silicon0000]

You should advise your own Government

Hahahaaa Nice Joke.

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

This backstabbing by US will only make India stronger. Tejas MK1B will come with the Kaveri engine, more powerful avionics, higher payload, and longer range. Remember, the Tejas MK1 FOC has a higher range, payload, and better avionics than Tejas IOC. Tejas MK1A is even better, with a payload of 5.3 tons and a combat range of 749 km, which no other light fighter jet in the world can match—not even the Much bigger and heavier F-16, which has a combat range of just 550 km.
As for the Tejas MK2, I think the American F414 engine is out of the question. It will likely come with a French or Russian engine, or maybe even the Kaveri.

There is a genuine supply chain issue with GE

Secondly for MK1A they have made so many changes that the problem is of Certification ie every new change has to go through Certification

That is causing all delays

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

Hahahaaa Nice Joke.

No your country needs good people to bring it out of all its Troubles

So many of your people are migrating

Advising Indians won't give you any thing

 

[silicon0000]

No your country needs good people to bring it out of all its Troubles

So many of your people are migrating

Advising Indians won't give you any thing

Dear you got me wrong I am not giving any advice, we are here just discussing and nothing else. I am not the one who just criticise India just for the sake of criticism. As this group is about HAL so obviously we will discuss HAL and India related things. In Pakistan section I also do the same. Don't take it personal.

 

[Bhojpuranchali]

Why diverting from your stupid post with an irrelevant comment?

He tends to get carried away by terms like "6th generation," "4.5 generation," "4.7 generation," "5th generation minus," etc. This question about the difference between a 4th and 4.5 generation will help him understand that these terminologies are just marketing gimmicks.

 

[Deino]

The current 80 kN Kaveri engine is being installed in Tejas as a proof of concept and for data collection. The production variant, called Kaveri 2, will have over 90 kN of thrust. HAL has negotiated and finalized their requirements with Safran and Rolls-Royce. The Indian government will soon announce the partner for developing a new 110 kN engine for the AMCA.

That’s a lie… neither Safran nor Rolls Royce would in such a three-party agreement on a joint development and NO reliable report ever claimed this. In fact I don’t know how on earth one could be so naive to believe such BS without a credible source and even more so to think that the new engine if ever would be based on the old Kaveri! This needs to be a new clean sheet design.

Regarding the J-20, it was then-serving IAF Chief Mr. Dhanoa who stated in an official press conference that the J-20 is not a fifth-generation fighter jet. If you reject the statement of the IAF Chief, then you must believe you know more about fighter jets than he does. I don't claim to know more about air warfare than any Air Force chief in the world.

Yes for sure again a lie for the stupid masses who does not care … and in the same way like the Indian helicopters are the best in the world since a test pilot says so … ever heard of propaganda?

As such, this Aur Marshal surely knows more and better, he is simply lying…

He tends to get carried away by terms like "6th generation," "4.5 generation," "4.7 generation," "5th generation minus," etc. This question about the difference between a 4th and 4.5 generation will help him understand that these terminologies are just marketing gimmicks.

Yes, and you pick them up so eagerly whenever they fit your agenda …

 

[DDG-80]

Despite engine delays, production of indigenous LCA jets on​

Despite delays in the deliveries of jet engines, India is marching on with the production of indigenous light combat aircraft (LCA) to meet requirements of the air force, with 14 airframes and integrated systems expected to be completed in the current financial year.

The latest version of the aircraft-LCA Mk1A-is currently undergoing extensive flight tests and the first fighter is likely to be delivered within two months. The air force has ordered 83 of these aircraft. While airframes are being manufactured and all other systems integrated on production aircraft, the delay in supply of GE 404 engines by the US manufacturer has led to a lag in delivery. The first LCA Mk1A was scheduled to be handed over in July.

Sources said GE, which is facing supply chain issues in manufacturing the engines as some suppliers closed production due to Covid-related complications, is expected to start supplies by September-October this year.

It is learnt that manufacturer Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), which had been mandated to deliver 16 aircraft this financial year, has devised a plan in which the manufacturing of air frames and integration of all other systems will go on, with the engines to be fitted at a later stage when GE manages to streamline supplies. As per projections, at least 14 air frames in a ready-to-go state should be available within the financial year. For now, the aircraft maker will keep manufacturing the aircraft and completing all tests with standby engines that it has in inventory. Once the engine supplies start coming, they will be integrated on the completed airframes-a process that can take a few weeks-before being handed over to the air force.

Two production lines for the LCA Mk1A are currently active in Bengaluru while a third at Nashik is likely to be operational by October. The first aircraft from the Nashik line is expected to be ready this financial year as well. Each of the lines can make eight aircraft per year. Even with the engine delays, the delivery of all 83 jets on order is expected to be completed within the 2028 deadline. Sources said that at present, the first LCA Mk1A aircraft is undergoing flight tests and will shortly demonstrate firing of indigenous weapons such as the Astra beyond visual range (BVR) air-to-air missile.

The second production aircraft is undergoing ground trials while four more are in an advanced stage of manufacturing. India is already in talks with GE for significantly increasing the order for its GE 404 engines that will be required for an additional order of 97 LCA Mk1A aircraft that has been approved by the government. The approach is to place orders well in time to avoid any delays in deliveries.

air force: Despite engine delays, production of indigenous LCA jets on - The Economic Times

India is pushing ahead with the production of indigenous light combat aircraft (LCA) despite delays in jet engine deliveries, aiming to complete 14 airframes with integrated systems this financial year. The LCA Mk1A is undergoing extensive flight tests, with the first fighter expected to be...

m.economictimes.com

 

[Faceless]

Despite engine delays, production of indigenous LCA jets on​

Despite delays in the deliveries of jet engines, India is marching on with the production of indigenous light combat aircraft (LCA) to meet requirements of the air force, with 14 airframes and integrated systems expected to be completed in the current financial year.

The latest version of the aircraft-LCA Mk1A-is currently undergoing extensive flight tests and the first fighter is likely to be delivered within two months. The air force has ordered 83 of these aircraft. While airframes are being manufactured and all other systems integrated on production aircraft, the delay in supply of GE 404 engines by the US manufacturer has led to a lag in delivery. The first LCA Mk1A was scheduled to be handed over in July.

Sources said GE, which is facing supply chain issues in manufacturing the engines as some suppliers closed production due to Covid-related complications, is expected to start supplies by September-October this year.

It is learnt that manufacturer Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), which had been mandated to deliver 16 aircraft this financial year, has devised a plan in which the manufacturing of air frames and integration of all other systems will go on, with the engines to be fitted at a later stage when GE manages to streamline supplies. As per projections, at least 14 air frames in a ready-to-go state should be available within the financial year. For now, the aircraft maker will keep manufacturing the aircraft and completing all tests with standby engines that it has in inventory. Once the engine supplies start coming, they will be integrated on the completed airframes-a process that can take a few weeks-before being handed over to the air force.

Two production lines for the LCA Mk1A are currently active in Bengaluru while a third at Nashik is likely to be operational by October. The first aircraft from the Nashik line is expected to be ready this financial year as well. Each of the lines can make eight aircraft per year. Even with the engine delays, the delivery of all 83 jets on order is expected to be completed within the 2028 deadline. Sources said that at present, the first LCA Mk1A aircraft is undergoing flight tests and will shortly demonstrate firing of indigenous weapons such as the Astra beyond visual range (BVR) air-to-air missile.

The second production aircraft is undergoing ground trials while four more are in an advanced stage of manufacturing. India is already in talks with GE for significantly increasing the order for its GE 404 engines that will be required for an additional order of 97 LCA Mk1A aircraft that has been approved by the government. The approach is to place orders well in time to avoid any delays in deliveries.

air force: Despite engine delays, production of indigenous LCA jets on - The Economic Times

India is pushing ahead with the production of indigenous light combat aircraft (LCA) despite delays in jet engine deliveries, aiming to complete 14 airframes with integrated systems this financial year. The LCA Mk1A is undergoing extensive flight tests, with the first fighter expected to be...

m.economictimes.com

Just so that I am getting it right :
HAL will manufactue 14 airframes and park them so that whenever the engines become available the completed Jet will be delivered to IAF.

Makes the most logical sense

 

[hembo]

You should advise your own Government

He is not entirely incorrect IMO. And PAF, with their limited resources, has a 100-times better procurement strategy, help from China notwithstanding.