‘I want to cry’: Afghan medical students in Pakistan face expulsion fear

You are absolutely correct.
Therefore - regardless of the absolute corruption by the establishment and its cronies - The Afghans are still a real problem for Pakistan and have at the end from a pure ledger balance perspective caused more damage to Pakistan and therefore need to be returned to their homeland to fix their own country.

There is simply ZERO return on goodwill that has ever been gained from them due to various factors including the missteps by the establishment of Pakistan - but that is not costs that the people of Pakistan should have to endure.

Therefore their return to their country is as much a movement against terrorism and exploitation of a corrupt system as it is a Pakistani protest against the rotten system created and sustained by the elite capture of Pakistan.
 
The debate about who is “anti‑Pakistan” outside our borders misses the real point. The deeper tragedy is what Pakistan’s own establishment has done to its people over decades. Our wounds are not primarily inflicted from the outside, they are self‑inflicted, through short‑term thinking, political engineering, and a refusal to build a stable, dignified future for ordinary citizens.

For forty years, Pakistan has been governed like a crisis factory. Instead of long-term planning, we got improvisation. Instead of institutions, we got proxies. Instead of stability, we got manufactured chaos because chaos keeps certain actors relevant. And while the powerful played their games, the public paid the price.

History Has Seen This Before (that’s why it’s important to remember history)

In ancient Rome, the elite lived in luxury while the plebeians struggled for bread. The ruling class spent lavishly on villas and banquets, while the lower classes survived on grain handouts but not in Pakistan. Rome didn’t fall because of foreign enemies alone, it fell because its own leaders hollowed out the state from within.

Pakistan today mirrors that pattern. Our elite live like Roman patricians, insulated from the suffering around them, while ordinary families fight for basic staples like flour, rice, and daal.

India’s caste system offers another painful parallel. For centuries, lower castes were denied opportunity, mobility, and dignity. Their poverty wasn’t accidental, it was engineered. Pakistan has recreated a similar dynamic, not through caste, but through economic and political structures that keep the powerful powerful and the poor permanently struggling.

The World Sees What Our Leaders Pretend Not to See

IMF, Europe, and China are not blind. They see the money laundering. They see the corruption. They see politicians spending money like water, money received through kickbacks and offshore channels, while the awam cannot afford basic food. They see a country surviving on borrowed money, remittances, petroleum levies, and emergency bailouts.

When a nation’s economy stands on such fragile pillars, it cannot have an independent foreign policy. It becomes a client state, shaped by lenders who understand exactly how its elite operate.
In my opinion, Makkah pact may have some short term benefits but it will have far more consequences in long run.

What is Real Anti-Pakistan Force ?

The real threat to Pakistan isn’t Afghans claiming territory, or external narratives, or the proportion of “anti‑Pakistan” sentiment abroad. The real threat is internal decision making, decisions made by those who were supposed to protect the country but instead protected their own power.

Pakistan didn’t collapse because of enemies.
Pakistan collapsed because its rulers behaved like Roman elites and caste gatekeepers guarding privilege while sacrificing the nation.

And the human cost is unbearable, families skipping meals, children dropping out of school, elders choosing between medicine and food, young people losing hope in a country that never gave them a fair chance.

This will be my last post on this topic. There are far bigger issues in the world that deserve attention. It’s exhausting trying to reason with people who are locked into a manufactured reality or who have lived in the West for decades yet still cling to the same old feudal ways of thinking.
Appreciate your input and the time you have taken to respond. I respectfully disagree with some of your perspectives. I don't wish to derail the thread topic by talking further about Pakistan's "management problems". We can save that for another day. Regarding Afghans - kick em all out. If they learn to respect Pakistan's sovereignty and identity, by all means, they can come and visit again (and I don't deny that life saving work or disaster relief should indeed continue unhindered...even when the illiterate bastards rip the Pakistani flag off our aid transport vehicles!). But the endless gravy train for ungrateful Afghans facilitated by weak Pakistanis ends now - this is something the current government is getting right 100%.
 
Maybe you should read the history of the regain to under historical facts.

Real enemy of Pakistani people are not Afghan Nationals (public will not buy this churan), real enemy is this system and whoever is supporting it (establishment, elite class, feudal lords and corrupt poitical mafia). They are the real enemy of Pakistan and Pakistani people.
Thanks for the advice but I would request you to act on it first .

As far as your point about the system is concern it's not even valid here as issues of Afghan population in Pakistan surpass the current installed system.

Again read the history even the recent history of last few decades of Pakistan
 
Field Marshall expelled millions of innocent refugees just to pressure the Taliban, did it work ? Nopes.

So you choose Banana Republic lawlessness with no border control, good to know

Field Marshall and his genius colleagues should have thought about whether handing over a country to a terrorist militia was the right policy. When that lunatic policy predictably failed then why target refugees ???

And here the classic, what the heck are Afghans choosing for themselves

They choose Taliban 2.0 and backward policies to life itself
 
So they need proper governance and focus on their own. Great

Really, and your Avatar is of a realist?

Anyhow please be more articulate, the opposing poster created a Roman empire and destroyed it in handful amount of post. Like come up with some Porus level resistance or atleast Tipu style last salute. Don't make it like a catwalk across the Panipat. Be more dramatic like Punnu or Mahiwal.

This tragedy is enough to make me cry.
 
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Really, and your Avatar is of a realist?

Anyhow please be more articulate, the opposing poster created a Roman empire and destroyed it in handful amount of post. Like come up with some Porus level resistance or atleast Tipu style last salute. Don't make it like a catwalk across the Panipat. Be more dramatic like Punnu or Mahiwal.

This tragedy is enough to make me cry.

Very good, yes where is my grand theory traversing history and empires on why you don't have border control
 

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