Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

[hydrabadi_arab]

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[mythbuster]

I have been listening to all sides on this issue of IWT for several days, including international experts and there is another perspective to this as well. First of all, even if India builds reservoirs to stop complete water from Pakistan, India can only ever block upto 35% of Pakistani water. As that much water originates and flows through India before adding into our own sources of water and ice. We get 65% of water form mountains, rainfall and snowfall within our own Northern Areas, or which originate too close to our borders to be blocked. But we have no capacity to store it and it just wastes away into the Ocean. Thus we keep relying on all year around natural flow of rivers to sustain our agriculture. Unlike many others including China who have built up capacities to store as much water as they can, from within their own territories, especially.

The water wars ARE going to happen. There is no way around it. Indian states are infighting for water already. Two years back, 3 of the Indian states had actual fights between their police forces at their borders, due to water sharing. So India will also have no choice but to do something about it.

I think its more important for us to build effective Dams on our side. If we do, we won't have to rely on India anyway. Our own Ice, rain and other sources will fill our reservoirs enough for our needs, by the time India finishes any projects on their side. For another 5 - 8 years we will really not face any meaningful issues from India on this matter, but if we ignore this now and do not start building Dams of our own, then yes ! We will ! So its also important for us to stop making this an issue of our ego.

Lets face the reality. We can either go to war with India so neither they, nor we store any water. Or we can also take responsibility for ourselves and start building as many dams to store enough of the water that originates within our borders and I hope our politicians and establishment are aware of this. If not then we also need to take responsibility and push our politicians to take responsibility and take care of this matter before India builds up their own reservoir capacities. China can easily help us o this matter and we can take care of it all.

It makes sense but we need something to talk about something to fret about and something to fight about, that's who we are ( we means humans )

 

[hussain0216]

Immense effort was taken to build dams and reservoirs, and new ones are being built but we MUST deal with the backwards stupidity of some communities and wake them up to reality

 

[Anaa]

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Immense effort was taken to build dams and reservoirs, and new ones are being built but we MUST deal with the backwards stupidity of some communities and wake them up to reality

Let India make dams and the people of certain areas should be asking for water from their regional political parties opposing any iota of social and industrial progress . Punjab won't be taking any blame for it if india tightens the screw .

 

[Great Mal]

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The water comes from a variety of sources, monsoon, glaciers etc

You still need dams and reservoirs to store the water genius

We have incredible jahils in places like Sindh, Balochistan and KP, who have blocked these things for decades because of ethnocentric jahilat

Are you serious? I pointed it out but it seems it went over your head.

The only river which gets most of the glacial run off is Indus within Pakistan.

and party jhelum. Chenab, Ravi, Sutlej all depend on Indian glaciers

 

[Yasser76]

The uniforms.. we are asking the wrong question.

Real question is how did this take place

No, that could be anywhere and is no proof at all, in fact if you look at the floors and plants it was taken in a outdoor hallway, and there are civilians present. That could be anywhere.

Maybe not promote enemy propaganda here unless its from a reliable source

 

[Anaa]

It was amusing how Bilawal was shouting and screaming at Modi as it's the real existential threat to the agrarian elite of Sindh .

 

[Yasser76]

You can’t blind eye everything this is hard evidence whether recent or old that intrusive actions have taken place inside military institutions

Hard evidence by an Indian Propoganda account that also claimed we lost an F-16?

 

[hussain0216]

Are you serious? I pointed it out but it seems it went over your head.

The only river which gets most of the glacial run off is Indus within Pakistan.

and party jhelum. Chenab, Ravi, Sutlej all depend on Indian glaciers

Those are Kashmiri glaciers, which should be part of Pakistan, part of the reason for partition was seperation from a Hindu enemy we hated and distrusted

But your not getting it, between the monsoon and our own water systems the vast majority of the water comes from areas the Indians can do nothing about

That DOESN'T change the fact that most usable water is WASTED because we don't store it anywhere or use it

We have ethnic dumb shits who will happily sit their watching the water run into the sea then actually try to use it or store it

So how do we knock sense into these clowns, almost all major new dam projects are up north where they are more reasonable people, we need projects in other areas and for the local idiots to grow a brain

 

[Great Mal]

Those are Kashmiri glaciers, which should be part of Pakistan, part of the reason for partition was seperation from a Hindu enemy we hated and distrusted

But your not getting it, between the monsoon and our own water systems the vast majority of the water comes from areas the Indians can do nothing about

That DOESN'T change the fact that most usable water is WASTED because we don't store it anywhere or use it

We have ethnic dumb shits who will happily sit their watching the water run into the sea then actually try to use it or store it

So how do we knock sense into these clowns, almost all major new dam projects are up north where they are more reasonable people, we need projects in other areas and for the local idiots to grow a brain

Monsoons & rainfall account for a small percentage of rivers water supplies. its mainly glacial melt. The only way you can secure your water security is to take kashmir or build dams on your side which help store water in dry seasons.

The best option is always controlling the source which is in Kashmir & Himachal which we aint getting anytime soon

 

[hussain0216]

These are some of the new dams being built in Pakistan

https://www.energyupdate.com.pk/2022/08/09/list-of-under-construction-dams-in-pakistan/#:~:text=For%20now%2C%20Diamer%2DBhasha%20Dam%2C%20Naulong%20Dam%2C%20Kurram,are%20in%20the%20initial%20stages%20of%20development.&text=Similarly%2C%20the%20Government%20is%20also%20planning%20to,Dam)%2C%20Tank%20Zam%20dam%20and%20Chiniot%20dam.

 

[hussain0216]

Monsoons & rainfall account for a small percentage of rivers water supplies. its mainly glacial melt. The only way you can secure your water security is to take kashmir or build dams on your side which help store water in dry seasons.

The best option is always controlling the source which is in Kashmir & Himachal which we aint getting anytime soon

India will partition again, the mass communal hatred is simply too much and with water at risk it's even more important we go after the hindus

 

[Yasser76]

WOW!

India's 'unfounded allegations' against Pakistan inflaming tensions in South Asia — OIC

TRT World - India's 'unfounded allegations' against Pakistan inflaming tensions in South Asia — OIC

Organization of Islamic Cooperation, a 57-member Islamic bloc, says unresolved dispute over Kashmir "remains the core issue affecting peace and security" in the volatile region.

trt.global

 

[MH.Yang]

Ethnicity, cultural influence etc is also a big factor.

Be very interesting to see if the Han jump in here, in 'different people' war.

I didn't understand what you meant, are you assuming that China will only use its military for Han Chinese countries?

First of all, North Korea is a Korean nation and Vietnam is a Gin nation.

Secondly, don't you understand that China is building a new international order? If we allow the sovereignty of our allies like Pakistan to be violated, how are we going to convince other countries that our new order will protect their security?

Isn't it enough that the Chinese government has repeatedly and clearly reminded that “Pakistan is our Israel”? Just as the US does with Israel, if you fire some rockets or artillery shells at Pakistan, China won't care too much, it will just give Pakistan some military aid and give India a few international scoldings. But if your army steps into Pakistani territory, that's a different end.

 

[PakAl]

Monsoons & rainfall account for a small percentage of rivers water supplies. its mainly glacial melt. The only way you can secure your water security is to take kashmir or build dams on your side which help store water in dry seasons.

The best option is always controlling the source which is in Kashmir & Himachal which we aint getting anytime soon

Not sure about Glacier melt but Rain and Mansoon water is alot. During the summer when it doesnt rain, the water is less. In Mangla dam people grow crops. If it rains within a few days we will see big amount of water, the water will comes from the mountains, the rainwater is collected via canals and then in to the main rivers.

Mangla dam when people grow crops and when it's full

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When it's dry months. Possibly around 4 months a year when it doesnt rain, this is when all canals and rivers start to dry. This is exactly where India will hurt us by closing the water, so for around 4 months Pakistan rivers will become dry.