India’s long submarine journey: What went wrong and the plan ahead

[Faani83]

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As India’s submarine plans desperately look for a strong anchor amid Pakistan’s resurgence and China far ahead, Snehesh Alex Philip ThePrint’s Editor - Defence and Diplomacy, speaks to Rear Admiral Chandra Shekhar Rao (Retd), former Director General, Naval Design (Submarine Design Bureau) to understand what went wrong and what can be done to salvage the situation.

 

[nahtanbob]

Indian Navy P-8s can blow out Pakistani Chinese subs. The only catch is air superiority to protect the P-8s. It would help to have a larger fleet of P-8s

 

[RandomThoughts7]

Indian Navy P-8s can blow out Pakistani Chinese subs. The only catch is air superiority to protect the P-8s. It would help to have a larger fleet of P-8s

Hi, I love your confidence. LOL!

The key is will the P8 be grounded or have to fly far out of range of the PAF? I am sure in a shooting war they will be a priority to be shot down. To politely point out, we all know how well the IAF has done in 2019 and 2025...

 

[nahtanbob]

Hi, I love your confidence. LOL!

The key is will the P8 be grounded or have to fly far out of range of the PAF? I am sure in a shooting war they will be a priority to be shot down. To politely point out, we all know how well the IAF has done in 2019 and 2025...

Submarines operate in the ocean. How far the Pakistani submarines operates before losing air cover?

P-8s are Boeing 737s with pretty good range. P-8s fly at 500 mph. your fastest sub is 40 mph

 

[RandomThoughts7]

Hi, not to get into a pissing fight, but how much was the Su-30 touted, how much was the Rafale touted?

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[nahtanbob]

Hi, not to get into a pissing fight, but how much was the Su-30 touted, how much was the Rafale touted?

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Irrelevant. Pakistani subs got to operate in the ocean far away from Pakistani airspace. they do not stand a chance against P-8s

 

[peacemaker99]

Indias 4th nuclear submarine is already in waters undergoing testing. Pakistan has zero nuclear subs. Munir asked china for some who laughed it off.

How is this 'resurgence of pak navy submarine"

Comparing hangor with capabilities of nuclear subs is a delusional joke.

Pak is not in the same league and will never be in the same league as india in these areas. Anyone who thinks so needs psyciatric help.

 

[nahtanbob]

Indias 4th nuclear submarine is already in waters undergoing testing. Pakistan has zero nuclear subs. Munir asked china for some who laughed it off.

How is this 'resurgence of pak navy submarine"

Comparing hangor with capabilities of nuclear subs is a delusional joke.

Pak is not in the same league and will never be in the same league as india in these areas. Anyone who thinks so needs psyciatric help.

even though you can counter subs with subs, you have to factor in ASW assets of both sides. Pakistani subs are a good sea denial platform. it is just they would be sitting ducks if they went too far out of their coastal waters

 

[peacemaker99]

even though you can counter subs with subs, you have to factor in ASW assets of both sides. Pakistani subs are a good sea denial platform. it is just they would be sitting ducks if they went too far out of their coastal waters

ASW from small navies like pak has zero effect, indian nuclear subs have near infinite range, spend months in continuious patrol and have missiles with 1000s of km range...and increasing.... They can movie to arctic or jamaica and wait thrre to get ordees to shoot.pak navy cant even patrol immedeate areas well.

This is a joke thread.

 

[RandomThoughts7]

Hi, I'm so shaking... you are right this is a waste of a thread.

Someone Left a Hatch Open and Crippled India’s $2.9 Billion Submarine

Water damage put the submarine out of action for ten months.

www.popularmechanics.com

 

[Sea_phoenix]

ASW from small navies like pak has zero effect, indian nuclear subs have near infinite range, spend months in continuious patrol and have missiles with 1000s of km range...and increasing.... They can movie to arctic or jamaica and wait thrre to get ordees to shoot.pak navy cant even patrol immedeate areas well.

This is a joke thread.

Just don't forget to close the hatches prior you dive..

 

[Big_Strong_Brother_India]

Indias 4th nuclear submarine is already in waters undergoing testing. Pakistan has zero nuclear subs. Munir asked china for some who laughed it off.

How is this 'resurgence of pak navy submarine"

Comparing hangor with capabilities of nuclear subs is a delusional joke.

Pak is not in the same league and will never be in the same league as india in these areas. Anyone who thinks so needs psyciatric help.

There hangoor are not some technological undersea marvel, except little bit of more endurance they provide nothing. They are slow, has inferior senors & equipment & are quite loud even by modern SSK standards, louder than Kalvari class & close to upgraded kilo in our inventory.

 

[Yasser76]

Loving the cope here, absolutely loving it

 

[delta2]

ASW from small navies like pak has zero effect, indian nuclear subs have near infinite range, spend months in continuious patrol and have missiles with 1000s of km range...and increasing.... They can movie to arctic or jamaica and wait thrre to get ordees to shoot.pak navy cant even patrol immedeate areas well.

This is a joke thread.

No, the Indian submarines will go the arctic to die and to never return.

Lol the Indians cannot even change the light bulbs inside the ovens on those Russian subs without Russia's help/approval. And here you think the Indians will survive a voyage to the arctic and back? Your comms will be jammed and hacked so badly you will hear each other's voicemails on your systems, and here you talk about trans-oceanic comms LOL! And that is if they are not sunk first or poisoned due to the infiltratration of food supply logicists.

The brand new Indian Rafael jets didn't know who was flying next to them once they got jammed, and you think those old Russian junked out legacy system trash death traps so called submarines will do you any good?

You have no idea what will happen to the Indians in the next war.

I warned you Indians about Pakistan's capabilities in the old forum but you didn't take it seriously.

The arctic is a US Navy playground. They will not be allowed anywhere near without USA approval or Russian support.

Invite your utter destruction if you want to. But don't say you werent warned.

Sometimes the Indians' delusions are mind boggling.

 

[El Sidd]

Indian naval forces will spearhead the 2.5 front war against Pakistan and China. The buildup of naval forces at the astonishing pace suggests India to escalate and dictate matters at the sea before the end of decade.