Indus Water Treaty: Discussion, News & Updates

[Waz]

We need to build more dams, medium to smaller dams including. Pakistan has plenty of rain during mansoon and we never store this, the glaziers melt and we never store it.

100%, years of mismanagement, corruption and stupid regional nationalism has made the situation far worse. Try building new dams in Sind and Punjab first.

 

[Desprado123]

100%, years of mismanagement, corruption and stupid regional nationalism has made the situation far worse. Try building new dams in Sind and Punjab first.

There are 4 major dam being build till 2030s and all are in kpk. None in Punjab.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

This. Really there is a Indian journalist called kay, he said that quote to quote "Indian media purposely fed wrong analysis of Pakistan like it is a ruins or a desert kind of situation where there Army have no equipment and it would be a like walking in the park like in Iran or Afghanistan and our military can blast any structure or target they like in Pakistan and that was the reason we lost some jets due strike by Pakistan. He said that there are Indian army retired analysis who purposely feed wrong news that Pakistan has no fighter jets or not maintained and it would counter it like running on motor cycle like in bollywood style movie climax".

Just imagine where would 170 plus nuclear including 2700 plus tanks, 400 fighter jets, 400 plus high tech large drones including 600 plus rocket artillery along with many others would go? Of course there pin point would be only India with full on Mutual destruction.

Indian army generals are shit scared of politicians. So any general/chief/coas who want to preserve his job which doesn't pay much to begin with need to kiss current ruling regime at any cost. Thats a price they pay to get top job.

They wanted to make a army that was complete opposite of Pakistan army. That have made their army generals bheeghi billi who cannot dare to question ruling political elite. Instead of taking inspiration from Pentagon, they said lets see what Pakistan is doing and do opposite of that.

But hindutva political elite want ROI on $90bn budget and what they sell to their audiences. Thats why blunders like Balakot and Sindoor happened.

 

[PK781]

“Pakistan plans to tap provincial funds to meet defense needs over the next three years, Finance Minister Muhammad Aurangzeb says.”

I said Pakistan have 3 years to prepare and thats what is going on at higher level. Now it make sense why PPP decided to give up Sindh share.

Water wars are coming. Pakistan build nukes for this day. From Kolkota to Madras, everything will burn in nuclear fire.

Man i can’t wait, even if it means ww3 for whole planet. Bring it on!
Time to crush the enemy into dust

 

[M. Sarmad]

My bad.
I meant Chenab's peak monsoon flow is 3.3 MAF for those 4 months (at that tunnel point), off which 1.1MAF (tunnels capacity) can ideally be pulled out. Which would be ~0.9 MAF with desilting losses.

I am not converting annual cusec figures. I am converting specific months's cusec figures in MAF for that particular 4 months season.

Even then, converting peak discharge into " 1.1 MAF extracted, 0.9 MAF net" is still theoretical capacity arithmetic, not operational hydrology....

Also, just for reminder, the nearby 9 km Atal Tunnel was supposed to be a Rs 500 crore, 4-year project...... It ended up taking roughly 10 years and costing about Rs 3,200 crore...

Himalayan geology has a long history of humbling engineering projections....

 

[PK781]

We definitely need more dams, but also to manage the water that comes through better. Implementation of drip irrigation, as well as water reservoirs and overflow channels to hold flood waters the years they come.

Furthermore, we need to build economic leverage with friendly GCC countries, to have economic means to have consequences for India. We should also look at products traded with India via ports such as Dubai, and look to ways to ending that trade (so Indian traders will want to lobby their government to maintain relations with Pakistan).

Ain’t gonna happen. The indians are only interested in destroying us completely so they can gloat about being a superpower of shit sorts.
They cannit be reasoned with.

The only solutions is a final decisive war with them. Nothing else will ever work.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Even then, converting peak discharge into " 1.1 MAF extracted, 0.9 MAF net" is still theoretical capacity arithmetic, not operational hydrology....

Also, just for reminder, the nearby 9 km Atal Tunnel was supposed to be a Rs 500 crore, 4-year project...... It ended up taking roughly 10 years and costing about Rs 3,200 crore...

Himalayan geology has a long history of humbling engineering projections....

Do you know how much water they could divert in lean phase of November-April period? Because diverting water to Satluj in monsoon would be pointless, as it will end up in Pakistan anyway.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Do you know how much water they could divert in lean phase of November-April period? Because diverting water to Satluj in monsoon would be pointless, as it will end up in Pakistan anyway.

Yes, broadly correct... Even with diversion into Beas-Sutlej, you don't eliminate downstream flows, monsoon peaks, spillovers, and system limits ensure substantial water still reaches Pakistan.... And even within India, the Sutlej system is already under storage capacity stress.... Diversion changes timing and share, not total elimination...

In the lean phase (Nov-Apr), the upper Chenab simply doesn't carry anything close to "multi-MAF surplus" in usable form.... Total flow over those six months at the proposed tunnel point is already limited (under 1 MAF), and only a fraction of that (15 to 20 percent max) can realistically be diverted due to ecological releases, sediment loads, and operational constraints....

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Yes, broadly correct... Even with diversion into Beas-Sutlej, you don't eliminate downstream flows, monsoon peaks, spillovers, and system limits ensure substantial water still reaches Pakistan.... And even within India, the Sutlej system is already under storage capacity stress.... Diversion changes timing and share, not total elimination...

In the lean phase (Nov-Apr), the upper Chenab simply doesn't carry anything close to "multi-MAF surplus" in usable form.... Total flow over those six months at the proposed tunnel point is already limited (under 1 MAF), and only a fraction of that (15 to 20 percent max) can realistically be diverted due to ecological releases, sediment loads, and operational constraints....

Still Pakistan will treat it as act of war even if real hit is only 0.2 MAF of water. One call from USA will stop India going ahead, if USA isn't interested then all out war is only way forward.

Their plans of removing silt from Bakhra etc dams are going nowhere. Last year Pakistan floods in ravi and satluj was just a teaser. Pakistan should prepare for more water coming from India in Ravi/Satluj monsoon season going forward.

Cost, tender hurdles sink Bhakra, Pong desilting plan​

Cost, tender hurdles sink Bhakra, Pong desilting plan

BBMB says sedimentation has consumed over one-fourth of Bhakra and Pong reservoirs’ total storage capacity

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