Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Bratva said:
Thankyou for making it clear you gonna keep justifying the illegal attacks with your thoughts madeup as facts and NYT articles where Trump is making empty threats. You are speaking with such conviction and authority as if you were sitting with Sultan of Oman when they made a decision to bow infront of Trump and relinquished their authority over Hormuz. Please do better next time, don't mix-up your thoughts and personal opinions as a fact and if you gonna keep arguing about some made up fantasy where Oman bowed infront of trump. Let's stop it here. I was looking for facts which proves Iran has legal authority to manage Oman Jurisdiction whereas I was dragged into some NYT articles, trump threats and not a single thing on point or what I asked for. and I don't really wanna engage with personal analysis presented as matter of facts.
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That write-up is way too emotional...

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POLITICO Pro: Iran MOU leaves Strait of Hormuz in Tehran’s hands, analysts say

The proposed agreement bars Iran from charging fees to transit the waterway for 60 days but leaves its long-term future up to Tehran and Oman.
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Let's read what the MoU says
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4 — Immediately upon the signing of this MOU, the United States of America will begin the removal of its naval blockade and any disturbances or impediments against the Islamic Republic of Iran, and will fully end the naval blockade within 30 days. During this period, the traffic of vessels will be in proportion to the numbers of pre-war traffic being restored by the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America further undertakes to remove its forces from the proximity of the Islamic Republic of Iran within 30 days after the final deal.

You gave pass to the belligerent in this case who threatened Oman and continues to use its space.
nice!
 
VCheng said:
Your are absolutely right - Iran must fight back as best and as hard as it can with all of its might. It must also be prepared for the other side to do the same.

After all, war is war.
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Yanks dropped so much bombs that they ran out of their strategic reserves, what more can these hillbillies do? Drop a nuke?

Dont let trump's bluster fool you, this is the limit of their conventional military might.
 
Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ said:
That write-up is way too emotional...

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POLITICO Pro: Iran MOU leaves Strait of Hormuz in Tehran’s hands, analysts say

The proposed agreement bars Iran from charging fees to transit the waterway for 60 days but leaves its long-term future up to Tehran and Oman.
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Let's read what the MoU says
Point
4 — Immediately upon the signing of this MOU, the United States of America will begin the removal of its naval blockade and any disturbances or impediments against the Islamic Republic of Iran, and will fully end the naval blockade within 30 days. During this period, the traffic of vessels will be in proportion to the numbers of pre-war traffic being restored by the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America further undertakes to remove its forces from the proximity of the Islamic Republic of Iran within 30 days after the final deal.

You gave pass to the belligerent in this case who threatened Oman and continues to use its space.
nice!
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Are you trying to interpret MOU as per your understanding? Because clearly it is not mentioned anywhere in MoU that Iran can or will manage Oman side of Hormuz?

But what is clearly mentioned is

"The text specifies that Iran will allow ships to safely pass toll-free for 60 days. Afterward, Iran is required to negotiate the waterway's future with Oman and other Gulf states"

It is a clear violation of MoU where Iran is trying to assert control of Hormuz before 60 days has passed to negotiate the control with Oman.
 
Bratva said:
Are you trying to interpret MOU as per your understanding? Because clearly it is not mentioned anywhere in MoU that Iran can or will manage Oman side of Hormuz?
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Exactly!!! You got the point! Oman is not a party to the MoU. It is between the belligerent and fhe aggrieved party. Where the belligerent caused a material change in the operation of a waterways. Oman's part was said out loud by orange. And I simply shared a politico article, not written by me, and the actual term... which is between US and Iran...
Oman and the gulf states are tertiary to this... meaning, until this is resolved between these two.
 




Iran attacks ships using Omani corridor and US rescinds general waiver on Iranian oil sales. MOU going well.

but this situation still suits Iran, since Iran exports oil regardless of waivers. only a US naval blockade changes this situation for Iran. and if Iran agreed to allow toll-free transit of the Strait for 60 days, then it is what it is.
 
Pakistan Space Agency said:
Surprisingly, Ahmed al-Sharaa isn't barrel bombing his own people with the help of the US and Turkiye

Why was Butcher Al-Assad butchering and barrel bombing his own people in Syria with full support from Iran and Russia?

What exactly was peaceful Octopus Soleimani's job in Syria? Didn't he also build a "road from Iran to Israel" over dead Syrian, Lebanese and the Iraqi people?
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There months ago he was hunting christians like rabbits in southern Syria. Not to mention his past like Commander of Tahrir Al Sham. Everybody has questionable allies.... Specially right now.
 
Bratva said:
I don't understand why Pro-iran people engage in so much circular argument and try to justify Iran illegal imposition of its will on Oman sovereignty. Did Iran allow Iran to manage it's part of waterways? If not then either you stand against the illegal war in all it's forms and condemn all who tries to illegally attack others. Or you comeout in open and say yes We gonna support Iran no matter what they do, So I know where you stand and stop arguing with extremist mindsets.
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After 100 illegalities over Irán, I think they have gained just one or two illegal ways for rebuilding the country.

After all iranians didn't start this.

Don't bring Iranian illegalities in a World reigned by illegalities.
 
tsunset said:
America and Saudi Arabia are the biggest sponsors of global terrorism the humankind has ever witnessed
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Correct, it starts from using mass media power, literature, maddrassas, universities to brainwash poor people children, people never read the history of religious extremism, fundamentalism and terrorism in Algeria, Mali, Sudan, Libya, Iraq, Somalia, Nigeria, Niger, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Yemen, Syria etc, all fingers point to the horn of devil in Najd. The same way they waged jihad against the Ottomans and declared them as non muslims. Unfortunately they pay billions to buy loyalty of muslim leadership to turn a blind eye to this dajjali ideology.
 
Bratva said:
This is the most absurd logic I've heard. So Iran is acting like America and forcing their will on Oman how they can use their waterways ? The goodwill is eroding fast because of these antics. Iran expect others to respect their sovereignty while themselves giving F All.
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To hell with goodwill. You think Iran needs goodwill of a few fake tribal statelets? Go do something about it?
 
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