Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

The IRGC would never give up on their MRBMs and I can understand why. Because it is Iran's only deterrence at this point.

What deterrence? Iran is literally being attacked for the 2nd time in 1 year.

The deterrence Iran had was actually:

“Oil deterrence” of 2000-2010
Weak presidents who didn’t want to start a war with Iran
2008 Global Financial Crisis
An Axis of Resistance of foreign legions
Iran’s entrenchment in Syria

Missiles were just the cherry on top, not the primary cause.

However since 2008, US has become a massive oil producer. OPEC has pumped record levels to offset Iranian oil production. And the foreign legions have been significantly weakened and Iran has had to flee Syria.

Iran’s deterrence was really its wide influence in the region and the U.S. reliance on Middle East oil. All of that has changed in the past decade.

US is in the best position to deal with Iran since 2010. Sure in 2005 it would probably have been much easier since Iran had no air defenses and just a highly inaccurate Shahab-3, but better late then never.

 

[jamal18]

Not only that but the Zionist are openly saying after Iran they will target Turkey and qatar

Yes. And Turkey will do absolutely nothing.

 

[mythbuster]

Not only that but the Zionist are openly saying after Iran they will target Turkey and qatar

The IRGC would never give up on their MRBMs and I can understand why. Because it is Iran's only deterrence at this point.
Iran lacks capable armed forces. Our air force, navy and ground forces still use many of the equipment bought during the Pahlavi era. Iran's ballistic missiles are all that Iran has at this point.

To resolve this issue, Iran needs some sort of guarantee that it won't need to use our MRBMs. In other words, Iran needs some sort of normalization with both the United States and Israel, which seems impossible with the current system in power, particularly with the IRGC.

So, in addition to our ballistic missiles, expect the IRGC and anti-Israel factions inside Iran to be hit really hard in the near future. I think the oligarchy in Iran would love the normalization of ties with the US and the West, even if it means to give Israel some sort of recognition, or security guarantees.

Agree with you , survival is the most basic human instinct , in fact for all life forms.. Agrachi has been throwing some sweeteners like cooperation in energy and mining and buying aircrafts .

 

[mangekyo]

 

[ShapurII]

What deterrence? Iran is literally being attacked for the 2nd time in 1 year.

The deterrence Iran had was actually:

“Oil deterrence” of 2000-2010
Weak presidents who didn’t want to start a war with Iran
2008 Global Financial Crisis
An Axis of Resistance of foreign legions
Iran’s entrenchment in Syria

Missiles were just the cherry on top, not the primary cause.

However since 2008, US has become a massive oil producer. OPEC has pumped record levels to offset Iranian oil production. And the foreign legions have been significantly weakened and Iran has had to flee Syria.

Iran’s deterrence was really its wide influence in the region and the U.S. reliance on Middle East oil. All of that has changed in the past decade.

US is in the best position to deal with Iran since 2010. Sure in 2005 it would probably have been much easier since Iran had no air defenses and just a highly inaccurate Shahab-3, but better late then never.

Nevertheless, it is all that Iran has left. It is not perfect, but it does give Iran some sort of deterrence to stay in power a little bit more. That's all this regime is about: buying time to stay in power for a few more months/years at the expense of us Iranians.

Khamenei and the IRGC will not accept to handover our missiles at any cost. So, the only plausible scenario is that the US defuses this last remaining threat as well, and then push for new negotiations until the regime agrees to all the 3 conditions and becomes a "normal" state, according to them.

 

[mangekyo]

Nevertheless, it is all that Iran has left. It is not perfect, but it does give Iran some sort of deterrence to stay in power a little bit more. That's all this regime is about: buying time to stay in power for a few more months/years at the expense of us Iranians.

Khamenei and the IRGC will not accept to handover our missiles at any cost. So, the only plausible scenario is that the US defuses this last remaining threat as well, and then push for new negotiations until the regime agrees to all the 3 conditions and becomes a "normal" state, according to them.

I am convinced factions inside Iran are working with USA and Israel. They are staging a coup by slowly purging all the hardliners and AoR. Soleimani and Quds commanders were purged. Raisi and Abdollahian purged. Salami, Hajizadeh, Bagheri purged. Whoever is left will be purged in the coming war for the final stage of the coup.

 

[BHAN85]

Epstein files have proven that the American people are not even bothered to rise up when American Children are Trafficked, Raped and ritualistically murdered by their Baal worshipping Zionist "elites".

They care about dead American soldiers. And they would care about sunk warships.

If Iran sinks USS Abraham Lincoln, the humiliation for USA military would be huge.

And it would justify a nuclear attack from USA to Iran.
Like Pearl Harbor attack justified Hiroshima and Nagasaki nuclear bombings.
Maybe, it's exactly what USA ruling elite is seeking.

Epstein is another thing, it's just text, it has no visual impact.
Coffins with USA flag have impact.
And a live streaming of a sinking aircraft carrier, it would have an impact of 9/11 attacks kind.
Besides world economy effects of a full Iran war will be huge too, a scapegoat is needed, and Israel is the perfect useful fool for that.

 

[ShapurII]

I am convinced factions inside Iran are working with USA and Israel. They are staging a coup by slowly purging all the hardliners and AoR. Soleimani and Quds commanders were purged. Raisi and Abdollahian purged. Salami, Hajizadeh, Bagheri purged. Whoever is left will be purged in the coming war for the final stage of the coup.

Even the IRGC is heavily infiltrated by these people.
Today I learned that Hanieh Safavi, the daughter of the former head of the IRGC, lives in Australia.

Let's not forget that most of these trustees are in fact family members of the IRGC officials. So, even the IRGC is not just one faction.

 

[Watandar]

A leopard never changes its spots. These Al Saud, Al Nahyan, Al Saba whatever would have remained local tribal lords eternally quarrelling with each other if not for the British/Americans who raised them to the present standard. They will all be fully participating in the upcoming attack on Iran, just like in the 1980s. Their energy infrastructure should suffer accordingly, unlike the 1980s.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

Pakistan PM kissing Trump’s ass….no honor in this man

 

[tsunset]

Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Kuwait and UAE are ready to give chunks of their land for Israel if they ask to, for free, and give their oil and free cash in exchange of Israel taking their land

Sunni Arabs love Jews, this is a long romantic story between the two of them, Arabs will commit suicide and kill their own mothers for the sake and personal interests of Jews

 

[Immortals]

Doesn’t seem like Iran is willing to accept Trump’s “deal”. Neither side looks to be willing to budge.

 

[Mehdipersian]

Everything is fair in war. Use that 3 million jews of isfahan wisely .
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Those jews will eventually sides with israel if iranian regime collapse . So use them wisely.

Isfahan has a total population of 2 million. I think there are no more than 20,000 Jews in all of Iran. Most Iranian Jews immigrated to America and Israel in 1979.

 

[mangekyo]

Even the IRGC is heavily infiltrated by these people.
Today I learned that Hanieh Safavi, the daughter of the former head of the IRGC, lives in Australia.

Let's not forget that most of these trustees are in fact family members of the IRGC officials. So, even the IRGC is not just one faction..

Of course they are. The actual true-believers who genuinely believed in resistance like Soleimani were purged. What’s left is mostly
a bunch of pretenders who finance their kids lavish lifestyles in the west with sanctions busting money. I do not believe the coup will go as they have planned. US/Israel will backstab them. I think what they have planned for Iran is unfortunately balkanization.